Poll: Peace In The Middle East

[King of the N00bs]

It is true that most of this is because of Islam...but we are also partially responsible. But now that I think about it, it is almost like this was all predetermined. I mean the thing that started all of this was the Cold war. Man we really need a rewind button. But if we all can agree on peace, then things won,t be so bad.Yep, that,ll be the day when Joseph Stalin will truly die.

 

[Satin6T]

yes if they were all dead there would totally be peace
or if we were dead
lets see peace at any cost
man I love the watchmen

 

[cainx10a]

It is true that most of this is because of Islam...but we are also partially responsible. But now that I think about it, it is almost like this was all predetermined. I mean the thing that started all of this was the Cold war. Man we really need a rewind button. But if we all can agree on peace, then things won,t be so bad.Yep, that,ll be the day when Joseph Stalin will truly die.

Yep Judaism and Christianity are not to blame AT ALL. [/sarcasm]

 

[King of the N00bs]

It will only never happen if people keep on thinking like that! I don,t mean to be rude to say this to a complete stranger but only the hopeless have no true hope. I don,t know if you,ve read Pete Seagers banjo before but it says this: "This machine surrounds hate and forces it to surrender". What I am saying is that we, the human race ARE THAT MACHINE!! If we all come down upon this hatred then we will bring down the very idea of a human being being an INFIDEL! No offense to your beliefs on the situation, but I just thought I,d give you something to chew on.

 

[Goldbling]

Israel's the problem. That and fundamentalist Islam.

*Israel wakes up* you know what I'll do today? Fuck up stability in the middle east and cause tension between Israelis and Arabs/Palestinians....

It is true that most of this is because of Islam...but we are also partially responsible. But now that I think about it, it is almost like this was all predetermined. I mean the thing that started all of this was the Cold war. Man we really need a rewind button. But if we all can agree on peace, then things won,t be so bad.Yep, that,ll be the day when Joseph Stalin will truly die.

Yep Judaism and Christianity are not to blame AT ALL. [/sarcasm]

I will admit we (Christians) like to fuck things up a lot too, but compared to Jews and Muslims we're nothing over there. I think all we do is walk around and say "aren't you tired of this shit yet?"

 

[King of the N00bs]

Where did either come in? I mean I get what you mean but did either have anything to do with it? Explain, please I would like to know. ( not sarcastic im serious)

 

[Rigs83]

Is it possible?

I'm thinking it is very highly unlikely, and honestly, the cause of all the problems in the Middle East can be summed up in one word, Islam. Keep in mind, I have nothing against Muslims, just Islam. It is the root of all the problems there, violence against secular Governments, suicide bombings in residential areas, persecution of the Christians, women and especially Jews.

I see almost no solution here, negotiation is not an option because fundamental Muslims will fight anything that doesn't exactly fit with Islam(I.E Education of women, other religions, secular government) the only way I see this ever stopping is that extremely stable secular governments are established, and they teach moderation and tolerance to students, but this requires support from powerful nations like America, The UK, ect, and that makes the situation worse, for the short term at least, and chances of this working are not very good.

What are your thoughts?

I disagree because all religions are ridiculous and obsess to much on the pageantry, dogma and symbolism to realize that a faith with an organization must serve it's people not itself. A temple is just a building it is the people inside who are precious.

 

[Rigs83]

Israel's the problem. That and fundamentalist Islam.

*Israel wakes up* you know what I'll do today? Fuck up stability in the middle east and cause tension between Israelis and Arabs/Palestinians....

It is true that most of this is because of Islam...but we are also partially responsible. But now that I think about it, it is almost like this was all predetermined. I mean the thing that started all of this was the Cold war. Man we really need a rewind button. But if we all can agree on peace, then things won,t be so bad.Yep, that,ll be the day when Joseph Stalin will truly die.

Yep Judaism and Christianity are not to blame AT ALL. [/sarcasm]

I will admit we (Christians) like to fuck things up a lot too, but compared to Jews and Muslims we're nothing over there. I think all we do is walk around and say "aren't you tired of this shit yet?"

Excuse me! If it wasn't for the Crusades Muslims would not be so intent on recapturing Jerusalem. Hell Muslims are still telling their kids the horrors of the Crusades, that's why in Muslim Nations the Red Cross [img=http://www.topnews.in/files/Red-Cross101.png]http://www.topnews.in/files/Red-Cross101.png[/img]
has to be called Red Crescent and use this
[img=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Flag_of_the_Red_Crescent.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_Red_Crescent.svg.png]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Flag_of_the_Red_Crescent.svg/800px-Flag_of_the_Red_Crescent.svg.png[/img]because the sight of a Red Cross was also the symbol of Crusaders.

 

[niglett]

okay now the thing with the middle east is the fighting is deeper than nations, ideals, race, or land. its a "holy war" and the problem with holy war is that after a while the religion changes from whatever it was to begin with and the new religion is battle.

it wont end until there both dead.

i say ignore them and let them figure it out.
or
glass them. remove this "holy land" and the people. the war is over.
you decide.

 

[lostclause]

Is it possible?

I'm thinking it is very highly unlikely, and honestly, the cause of all the problems in the Middle East can be summed up in one word, Islam.

The problem's not Islam, it's just a rallying point for people with greviences against the US, much like communism during the Cold War. This is rubbish.

Taking Iran as an example. Their problem is not Islam, it's that they hate America because they supported a tyrant and because they're interfering in their nuclear power program. Islam is largely irrelevant as America has dealt with Islamic nations before (Turkey, Iraq, the Mujahideen etc.).

 

[park92]

never everyone in the middle east is f***ing insane

 

[MortisLegio]

if anyone hears of a seven year plan for peace in the Middle East, grab your guns cause its the end of the world.

 

[Brett Alex]

people there are fighting over things that happened hundreds if not thousands of years ago it aint gonna stop because the US trys to stop it.

They really aren't. Probably things from a little a bit before the 1920's was the reason it started.

That is if you're referring to Israel vs other Middle East nations, which I'm thinking you were. If you mean conflict in general in the region, then yeah, its been going on for thousands of years, but where in the world hasn't it?

 

[Asymptote Angel]

I think the old hatreds run far too deep for real peace to be seen in our lifetimes. It's already been proven that the western first world isn't very good at transmitting its values and technology, so secularism will have to come without outside intervention. It'll be a long slog considering the tumult in that region.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

The Middle East has been fucked up ever since Medieval Christian Europe stormed in and shit on their culture, and I doubt that's liable to change.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

Hmm. So if both sides put their guns aside, talk about it, show respect, and shake hands the problem will just go away?

I like it. I just hope neither side is too stubborn to let it happen.

It won't, this make work for your average person, but muslim fundamentalists would never allow peace.

Please leave your bigotry at the door, we try to keep these forums an educated place.

Islam teaches peace. Don't puke out all that BS CNN and Fox tell you, because it makes no sense to judge teachings by their followers. Judging Islam by a few terrorists is like judging Catholicism for pedophile priests.

 

[dukethepcdr]

As long as there are at least two people in the Middle East who don't agree with each other about absolutely everything, there will never be peace. People who disagree there would rather kill each other than talk to each other. They're still fighting over things that happened thousands of years ago.

 

[Shadow5]

Unfortunately we are experencing the Unstoppable force of islamic fundamentalists believing that all people in the world should be muslim or dead versus the immovable object of Jewish fundamentalists believing Jerusalem and the surrounding lands are theirs by the decree of god.

Hopefully peace will eventually be achieved for the majority of secular Muslims and Jews soon, fundamentalists and the ultra-orthadox will take a lot more time as the religeon needs to undergo an extreme paradigm shift.

 

[Lord Thodin]

I voted no because the factions in the Middle east have been warring for Hundreds of years. They will not stop now just because a country steps in for a little bit. If peace is to been achieved it will be through, and on their terms