Poll: Revolution 60 has been Greenlit

[darkhallwaygames]

I just love how the trailer starts with "My men are dying out there"
For those who don't know it has an all female cast.

 

[Sleepy Sol]

Not particularly. I think if Brianna had a much different art style going on it could be pretty decent. As it is now it just looks pretty damn awful. As for gameplay, I think I saw a comment on Steam forums about it (what little is displayed in the trailer) looking similar to MM Battle Network or something to that degree. So if their assessment was accurate I could probably enjoy it.

The voice acting isn't bad for a project of this caliber in all honesty.

Not exactly enough interest generated for me to really ever give this a shot, however. I'm glad she was able to get her game on Steam, but I couldn't give two shits what happens to it or how it does on the platform.

 

[Haerthan]

Is the game any good?

 

[mitchell271]

Honestly, that trailer makes me completely uninterested. I have no idea who Brianna Wu is, nor have I heard anything about this game. I mean, good luck to her, but if the game is anything like that trailer, she's gonna be disappointed.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Well, the voice work doesn't seem terrible ...

past that ... eh ... don't care one way or another about this game coming out.

and since you brought her up, who is Brianna Wu and why does that matter?

 

[Haerthan]

Well, the voice work does seem terrible ...

past that ... eh ... don't care one way or another about this game coming out.

and since you brought her up, who is Brianna Wu and why does that matter?

She's an indie dev that is mainly known for spreading lies and insulting people to get more attention towards her Patreon.

 

[cleric of the order]

Not enough to say. Story, gameplay, neither was front and center in the trailer. I honestly can't say the game is bad by what's shown, the trailer is terribly done.

I am amazed there are so many who still blow something off if it doesn't meet some arbitrary graphics threshold.

Normally I would agree with you but, the design is a hairs breadth from hurting my eyes.
The design feels and looks kinda spastic and ugly, which would have redeemed.
Also from what I've seen of the ios review the gameplay looks uninteresting to me, the writing makes me cringe slightly, scratch that everything about it kinda squics me out.
I get the feeling that this game will not stand any test of time and be forgotten by the end of the month.
I don't even know why we are talking about this....thing?
It looks like another one of those shovelware games that have been flooding steam lately.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Well, the voice work does seem terrible ...

past that ... eh ... don't care one way or another about this game coming out.

and since you brought her up, who is Brianna Wu and why does that matter?

She's an indie dev that is mainly known for spreading lies and insulting people to get more attention towards her Patreon.

Wonderful, cause we needed another indie dev who lies and insults people....

 

[Bat Vader]

Because people have different tastes and opinions on what they like? That's my guess.

Well a chef can like literal shit for all I care, I'm just going to call them out if they want they try to have their opinion taken seriously on a "professional" level. Objectively, this game's animation is extremely low quality. There is no arguing about that at least. It looks exactly like that ocdonutsteel "Lara-su" shit Ken Penders made after he was kicked out of the Archie Sonic comics.

The animation isn't all that great but for me graphics and animation doesn't really bother me. As long as the game has a decent story I am happy. Graphics have never been that big of a deal for me except in extreme situations.

 

[CpT_x_Killsteal]

So it's just a port of an iOS game? Searching gameplay videos of it, there was a fuckton of cutscenes, and the gameplay itself looked like something only suitable for a smartphone, crammed with QTEs and simplistic gameplay. Same with the graphics.

I can't imagine anyone actually buying it (and actually playing it) for PC, but I can see it being an above average iOS game (depending on the price). Then again, I know fuck all about iOS games, so there's that.

 

[josh4president]

I really don't see what the big deal is about getting on Steam Greenlight is at this point.

When it first started out, sure, it was considered something of a badge of honor (dubious honor in many cases but an honor nonetheless). Now? Garbage gets Greenlit constantly for privilige of sharing the front page with seventeen-year-old movie-tie-in PSOne games.

Good on anyone who can make a go of it, seriously, but whenever I see someone bragging about getting Greenlit these days I just assume they begged enough people on Twitter or gave out a ton of free Steam keys in exchange for the votes.

The sad part?

I'm usually right.

 

[Haerthan]

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Usually you would be right. Not this time though. I don't have a Twitter so I don't follow her or anything beyond what this forum has on her, but I just thought it would be interesting to make a post on it since it is a game.

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Considering all the harassment that they went through and other people go through it daily I am just going to leave you with this: Showing empathy and compassion to people that have been harassed is something decent people do. If you simply ignored them from the beginning they would have faded into obscurity. But you proved them right. Also the "professional victim" card is straight up victim blaming. Sure don't like their games because of the way it looks, the way it plays or the story. But bringing in that card is just showing yourself as a victim blamer.

And yes they would have made it past Greenlight. There is worse crap than Rev 60 that made it on Greenlight. Also Depression Quest might be a simple game, but at least it tries to raise awareness about something that affects a large chunk of population.

 

[EvilRoy]

Eeeh. I'm not interested simply because I don't really see anything novel about the game. It probably plays fine, but I don't see anything particularly unique about it and that is basically the only reason I buy indie games.

I will say that it took me quite a while to figure out why the art/graphics bugged me so much, but I did finally make up my mind. It isn't that the art style is bad (it reminds me a bit of crash bandicoot to be honest), its that the character art and graphics are mediocre-to-good range, but the enemy models and environment art are shithouse.

If you take a look at some of the screenshots, you can see this huge visible decline in quality between the player character and the environments, and I found it really jarring - similarly the enemies are just bluh. Reasonably well textured, but having a different and far less exaggerated artstyle than the player character.

I get that you want to spend most of your time and energy on the player characters because they are what you will spend the most time staring at, but there shouldn't be this visible of a difference. The art style at least should be consistent - with all the smooth lines and polished curves on the player characters and the blocky roughness and two-tone textures of the environments its like watching "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"

 

[Vigormortis]

I just love how the trailer starts with "My men are dying out there"
For those who don't know it has an all female cast.

To be fair, I think she says, "Minn, my friends are dying out there."

Still, the game features some truly Shakespearean-level writing.

Certainly not the work of an arrogant, no-talent hack who thinks she's solving sexism in gaming by making all of the villains faceless men and all of the protagonists Caucasian women.

And now that I've looked into it a bit more, I'm left with a few nagging questions:

The game was supposedly built on Unreal Engine 3, so how the living fuck did they manage to make it look so bad? Was it on purpose? Why do so many of the art assets look as though they were stolen from either other projects or from free asset archives online?

Why are so many publications, like Kotaku, C|Net, and others, praising this game like it's some revolutionary new beacon of quality within the industry? All I keep seeing are taglines like "it's the most ambitious game ever" or, more baffling, this summary from iMore, "The modeling is gorgeous, the animation delightful, the music engrossing, and the voice acting outstanding."

Really? Are they serious?

For that matter, how has this game won Game of the Year awards? I mean, granted 2014 wasn't the best year of gaming ever but to give a GOTY award to this game?

I can't shake the feeling that, had this game been made by anyone else, it would have been relegated to the bargain bin, like all shovelware, and forgotten within a week.

 

[Matt Dellar]

Looks like something I might pick up on sale if it wasn't for the zero-effort modeling. I'll say over and over that the original Wind Waker holds up today because its graphics are stylized, but this "style" seems to be the result of a lack of knowledge (of whatever 3D software was used, of human anatomy, and of basic design theory) rather than a conscious design choice.

Not really picking up on an overarching plot from the trailer, so I guess that leaves the dialogue to vouch for the writing. Doesn't seem terrible, but as with most story/character-driven games, it's still several tiers below even an average novel or film (giving Witcher 2 an exception, but since it's based on a book, that's a bit unfair). The voice acting is better than most anime dubs, at least, but sounds like it has some equalization issues here and there. I've heard far worse.

Guess I'll watch a stream or Youtube or something, see if it's worth more than a quick video.

EDIT: Gave it a chance, watched a Youtube of it. It's worse than I thought. This has a GOTY award? How? From whom? Off the top of my head, the writing alone is completely flattened by Transistor and Banner Saga. Those two alone also have much, much better art, much better gameplay, better sound design (R60's music sounds good, but the whole zero-effort thing shows in every other department).

 

[ClockworkAngel]

Judging solely by the trailer, gods no. This looks terrible. Everything about this game looks awful. But I can say that about most games that get greenlit.

As for the other stuff .. just .. I don't care. I don't. I can't.

 

[DarkRawen]

Ehm. No. Sorry, not interested. Wait, not sorry, just not interested.

It reminds me of the mix between an early ps2 space game, and a certain type of early ps2 game for girls, where the developers just designed their characters after whatever franchise they are making, and just. Stop caring. Bratz games and such, only the Bratz models are actually better-looking. :/

 

[Blacklight28]

Can some of the people who voted 'yes' say why you did? I'm genuinely curious.

 

[BathorysGraveland2]

Looks really shitty. Admittedly, I'm hugely picky when it comes to art style/art design. Graphics be damned, if the game has an art style that bothers me I really can't play it. It's why I've never gotten into jRPGs. So that said, this game looks to have one of the worst art styles with some of the ugliest characters that make Oblivion's cast look like beauty-pageant material y comparison.

Needless to say, no thank you.

 

[Haerthan]

Considering all the harassment that they went through and other people go through it daily I am just going to leave you with this: Showing empathy and compassion to people that have been harassed is something decent people do. If you simply ignored them from the beginning they would have faded into obscurity. But you proved them right. Also the "professional victim" card is straight up victim blaming. Sure don't like their games because of the way it looks, the way it plays or the story. But bringing in that card is just showing yourself as a victim blamer.

And yes they would have made it past Greenlight. There is worse crap than Rev 60 that made it on Greenlight. Also Depression Quest might be a simple game, but at least it tries to raise awareness about something that affects a large chunk of population.

I don't care how much harassment a person goes through, the second they start trying to use that as a way to promote a commercialized product any sympathy I once had for them is gone. That's what Brianna Wu did, she asked people to vote for her game not based on the merits of her the actual game but how much it would show those nasty trolls. That's not even getting into just how hilariously bad she's taken this whole thing to the point it comes across as if she has something like Munchhausen Syndrome. Or how Zoe Quinn pretty much fabricated the whole Wizardchan "trolling campaign" when her game wasn't doing so good on Greenlight.

Also, I couldn't give any less of a shit about "raising awareness" for any subject, especially when that's pretty much the sole thing that the game has going for it. I judge a game based on it's merits alone, the intention and message of it has very little bearing on the grand scheme of things.

How about you provide a source on that please. Because I haven't seen her ask people to do that shit.

Also the intention, message and meaning of the game is completely part of the merits of a game. But hey I asked if you were interested. I didn't ask you to come with unproven allegations.