Cthulu is my BFF.Aethren said:Fantasy has Cthulhu. How is this even a contest?
OT: Also, what about Sci-fantasy?
Poll: Sci-Fi vs. Fantasy,who wins?
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OT: Also, what about Sci-fantasy?
This.Mike Richards said:
The Doctor has the TARDIS, so he can go back in time and change things to go in the battle's favor. Plus he had the sonic screwdriver which can pretty much do anything, let's hope he upgrades the thing so it will work on wood.
But since even the Doctor Who villains and monsters would be able to fight on Sci-Fi's side, do a controlled release of Vashta Narada in the Fantasy controlled zones, no organic beings would be left alive.
And for the things that The Doctor would deem objectionable, The Master would take those jobs.
That's not true. There is plenty of sci-fi with fantasy in it, but you would never see people looking for it in the fantasy section for it. Because if a story has a sci-fi base, it will always be considered sci-fi. Nit picky purists are the only ones that would think such things.Nautical Honors Society said:
But pretty much all sci-fi has fantasy in it: Any sci-fi that takes place on some unknown world or in some point in the future, has fantasy in it. The sci-fi writer fantasies what that unknown world is going to be like, or what new and different technologies might be in said future, fantasizing if there are any new lifeforms. Fantasizing takes imagination, a lot of imagination goes into lifeforms and new technologies in sci-fi.
Your interpretation on how the two mix is wrong, because it would go both ways, fantasy couldn't be fantasy if it has sci-fi in it. It is a stalemate, we have to determine if a story has more fantasy or more sci-fi, and then the one it has the most of is the side it goes on.
Still, no way fantasy can win.
Whatever the story has the most of, is the side it goes on. Or really, whatever the popular consensus is on what the story has the most of, then it is determined what side it goes on.Nicholas Woodruff said:
A race to see which Deus Ex Machina wins.
I'd go for fantasy though. Sci-fi is always bound in some kind of scientific rules. Fantasy has magic though.
Magic!
That said they can get so blurred. I mean pseudo-science in Stargate allowed for time travel, creating a parrel universe to hide in, travelling to parallel universes, pretty much instant teleportation,and the exitance of higher plane of existance.
I'd still go for Fantasy though.
I'd go for fantasy though. Sci-fi is always bound in some kind of scientific rules. Fantasy has magic though.
Magic!
That said they can get so blurred. I mean pseudo-science in Stargate allowed for time travel, creating a parrel universe to hide in, travelling to parallel universes, pretty much instant teleportation,and the exitance of higher plane of existance.
I'd still go for Fantasy though.
Well don't like reading either all the much, though I tend to lean towards reading Fantasy.PUR3_GAM3R33 said:
But in general (games, comics, tv, film) I prefer my Sci fi.
Also Lasers beat swords any day.
Note: test this out playing Warhammer Fantasy VS 40 000.... will that work?
Both lose:
Both have been infected with Romance, creating weird hybrid hard to categorize genres like Paranormal Romance, Urban Fantasy, and this really weird Sci-Fi genre that doesn't really have a name yet; where the female protagonists are tough and hard and gritty, but yet swoon over every male character. Both genre's have become almost unreadable as of late, and I have to really research each new series I want to read before I buy. You can blame the twilight fans for this nonsense. Publishers cater to the audience, and right now the money is in fap material for the ladies. wake me up in a few years.
Unfortunately, the author of "Dirty Sexy Books" got tired of all the hate mail and quit her blog. A shame really, as her must buy lists were a great resource of books to avoid at all costs.
Both have been infected with Romance, creating weird hybrid hard to categorize genres like Paranormal Romance, Urban Fantasy, and this really weird Sci-Fi genre that doesn't really have a name yet; where the female protagonists are tough and hard and gritty, but yet swoon over every male character. Both genre's have become almost unreadable as of late, and I have to really research each new series I want to read before I buy. You can blame the twilight fans for this nonsense. Publishers cater to the audience, and right now the money is in fap material for the ladies. wake me up in a few years.
Unfortunately, the author of "Dirty Sexy Books" got tired of all the hate mail and quit her blog. A shame really, as her must buy lists were a great resource of books to avoid at all costs.
If it is high-magic fantasy vs highly advanced sci-fi, it will probably be a tie as they can utterly destroy the universe. If the fantasy universe has a truely ominpotent God it might win, but most fantasy universes put some limits on the Gods just to get the story moving (why would the Gods need a human chosen one if they can snap their fingers and get things done that way?)
If we get to low-magic fantasy vs realistic, near future sci-fi though, sci-fi wins obviously. So that's my vote.
If we get to low-magic fantasy vs realistic, near future sci-fi though, sci-fi wins obviously. So that's my vote.
Fantasy would win in my opinion. Anything can be pulled out of that damn magical hat! Aside from that, sci-Fi is sort of a break off of fantasy anyways if you look at how unreal it is. Well, was. Sci-Fi is coming true more and more every day with new inventions.
In terms of space marines, then yes. Space marines have a crusader/ paladin sort of look with many of their people and troops wearing tapestries, robes, and other such artifacts. the other races like Imperial guard and elder, are less religiously symbolism.tthor said:
Just so you don't invoke anger in some die hard fans if anything WoW (and star craft) copied Warhammer (not 40k) as originally blizzard worked for games workshop, but their project was canceled with them left with some of the remnants, which the recycled into warcraft and/or starcraft.
To get an overall winner, this epic confrontation should be broken down a little, rather than just going in straight at the "It just wins because..." level.
We shall engage in 3 battles. The first at ground level with the troops, beasts and weapons of the respective genres. The second shall be a battle of the greatest warriors, leaders and representatives. The third shall be a titanic, cosmic battle with no holds barred. Begin:
Round 1:
Star Wars battle droid army gains an early lead over Sauron's orc army, due to the range of their energy weapons. Elves join the fray but their arrows are unable to injure the metallic menace. Star Trek personnel beam in and out of battle, killing dwarves with their phasers but taking very little damage in return.
A horde of undead zombies, led by a lich are able eventually to push back the robots, but some Predators join the fight and make short work of them.
Winner: Sci-Fi
Round 2:
Luke Skywalker and Yoda start jumping about the place, throwing their lightsabers every which way. Rand Al'Thor balefires them. Neo and Morpheus dodge the balefire in bulletime and are about to use their Kung Fu when Belgarath the Sorcerer wills their modem connection to go offline, disconnecting them.
Spock sneaks up on Belgarath and drops him with a nerve pinch just as Arnie the Terminator kills Rand Al'Thor with a one-liner (and pulling out his spine). Gandalf and Pug appear out of nowhere and with waved hands and staves, Spock and the Cyberdyne Systems T-101 are disintegrated.
Winner: Fantasy
Round 3:
As the Covenant armada begins razing the surface of different continents and the Death Star begins charging up it's main laser, Garion, with the Orb of Aldur gathers his will and says "Burn". They explode into flame.
The Reapers finally arrive through a Mass Relay but without Shepard, who was inadvertently killed by a Beholder in the previous round, the Reapers are able to roam unchecked. The Bhaalspawn, fresh from his fight with Melissan fancies one last hurrah. The Reapers start talking in deep voices while the last child of Bhaal unleashes various spells including Time Stop, Abi Dazim's Horrid Wilting and Comet. Abi Dazim has no effect as there is no moisture in the Reapers, but being hit by comets does the trick.
Jean Grey as Phoenix and Galactus unite to strike the killing blow against fantasy once and for all but Thomas Covenant and Sparhawk with the Bhelliom wipe them out before they enter the solar system.
Winner: Fantasy
Overall Winner: Fantasy
It seems sci-fi doesn't have an answer for the unbridled might of fantasy's hardest hitters, though at ground level, the superior technology, communications and shields/teleporters give them a clear edge. But after the troops are done, fantasy's greatest heroes make short work of them and their leaders and generally with little more effort than concentrating.
The laser may be mightier than the sword but magic is mightier than technology!
We shall engage in 3 battles. The first at ground level with the troops, beasts and weapons of the respective genres. The second shall be a battle of the greatest warriors, leaders and representatives. The third shall be a titanic, cosmic battle with no holds barred. Begin:
Round 1:
Star Wars battle droid army gains an early lead over Sauron's orc army, due to the range of their energy weapons. Elves join the fray but their arrows are unable to injure the metallic menace. Star Trek personnel beam in and out of battle, killing dwarves with their phasers but taking very little damage in return.
A horde of undead zombies, led by a lich are able eventually to push back the robots, but some Predators join the fight and make short work of them.
Winner: Sci-Fi
Round 2:
Luke Skywalker and Yoda start jumping about the place, throwing their lightsabers every which way. Rand Al'Thor balefires them. Neo and Morpheus dodge the balefire in bulletime and are about to use their Kung Fu when Belgarath the Sorcerer wills their modem connection to go offline, disconnecting them.
Spock sneaks up on Belgarath and drops him with a nerve pinch just as Arnie the Terminator kills Rand Al'Thor with a one-liner (and pulling out his spine). Gandalf and Pug appear out of nowhere and with waved hands and staves, Spock and the Cyberdyne Systems T-101 are disintegrated.
Winner: Fantasy
Round 3:
As the Covenant armada begins razing the surface of different continents and the Death Star begins charging up it's main laser, Garion, with the Orb of Aldur gathers his will and says "Burn". They explode into flame.
The Reapers finally arrive through a Mass Relay but without Shepard, who was inadvertently killed by a Beholder in the previous round, the Reapers are able to roam unchecked. The Bhaalspawn, fresh from his fight with Melissan fancies one last hurrah. The Reapers start talking in deep voices while the last child of Bhaal unleashes various spells including Time Stop, Abi Dazim's Horrid Wilting and Comet. Abi Dazim has no effect as there is no moisture in the Reapers, but being hit by comets does the trick.
Jean Grey as Phoenix and Galactus unite to strike the killing blow against fantasy once and for all but Thomas Covenant and Sparhawk with the Bhelliom wipe them out before they enter the solar system.
Winner: Fantasy
Overall Winner: Fantasy
It seems sci-fi doesn't have an answer for the unbridled might of fantasy's hardest hitters, though at ground level, the superior technology, communications and shields/teleporters give them a clear edge. But after the troops are done, fantasy's greatest heroes make short work of them and their leaders and generally with little more effort than concentrating.
The laser may be mightier than the sword but magic is mightier than technology!
I say, wherever Dragonball Z goes, so too does victory. By super-saiyan 3 levels, all possible opposition is annihilated. Ignoring Dragonball Z for a minute, let's look at some of the most powerful forces in the various sci-fi and fantasy worlds.
Sci-fi: Low-orbit ion cannon/obscenely huge and powerful wave motion cannons. The Death Star and other technological feats of similar size and power, pretty much. I don't think we've ever seen the absolute most powerful fighters in the entire Dragonball mythos truly cut loose and straight up destroy a planet, but it's hard to believe any of the Dragonball Z characters could vaporize a planet like the Death Star did.
Fantasy: Well, maybe there's some opposition to be had, as there are any number of characters in any fantasy story that are gods or god-like. The best example that leaps to my mind would be the gods in David Eddings Belgariad, particularly UL, the father of a whole world. Of course, their powers are based around simply having unimaginable will-power, and against the colossal pride and willpower of Vegeta, I think they would at least have their hands full.
Sci-fi: Low-orbit ion cannon/obscenely huge and powerful wave motion cannons. The Death Star and other technological feats of similar size and power, pretty much. I don't think we've ever seen the absolute most powerful fighters in the entire Dragonball mythos truly cut loose and straight up destroy a planet, but it's hard to believe any of the Dragonball Z characters could vaporize a planet like the Death Star did.
Fantasy: Well, maybe there's some opposition to be had, as there are any number of characters in any fantasy story that are gods or god-like. The best example that leaps to my mind would be the gods in David Eddings Belgariad, particularly UL, the father of a whole world. Of course, their powers are based around simply having unimaginable will-power, and against the colossal pride and willpower of Vegeta, I think they would at least have their hands full.