Agayek said:
2733 said:
so a 7 foot monster of a security guard beat a twelve year old who was pissing him off, he needs to lose his job. I don't know what the kid was doing before the video starts, but this is not how you handle it. The whipping out of the baton (I assume to force back onlookers) was just icing on the power trip cake.
There was no beating involved. He held the kid against the wall with the kid's arm behind his back cranked up above his shoulder. Then when the kid tried to get out of the hold, he shifted the kid to the ground and held him there.
At no point did he actually hit the idiot, and the baton only came out to get the kid's friends back. If you'll notice, he never actually used it for anything other than an additional contact point with the ground, so that less weight was on the kid.
by Beat I meant to claim victory over rather than actually strike the boy, I meant to point out the unimpressive nature of the guards victory. may I disassemble the video to show what I mean by too much force?
from the start up until about 1:30 we see the guard holding the bound boy by placing an arm through the boys elbow and keeping the boy's elbow at about his own jaw level, you can see the boy bent over trying to prevent his shoulder from dislocating but still a painful position.
from then till 2:00 when the kid kicks the guard has a more neutral(less painful) hold that lacks the threat reduction he needed so the now both reinvigorated and panicked boy kicks at him
now the actual throw is hard to see as it is off screen but from the looks of it he took the boy to his knees first then to the ground, but seemed to have his head at an angle so he may have struck head first.
Now I will retract my words about the baton because I had thought he struck him at 2:07 but viewing it again he does not seem to.
as for the pin, he is clearly not using the baton as a weight point because it would have collapsed. as for the knee he has it across what looks to be the boy's glutes and hamstrings. not a bad place to put the knee but I want you to try to hold that position like the guard does, without putting too much weight on that knee, hard isn't it? and this guard is a big boy and that kid is little so it is not a good combination.
when he gets dragged up and away no additional harm seems to be done. except the guard picking his ass at 5:08
Take it from someone who has had to stop and calm people of the boy's size, the guard was way to rough, but it seems (now that I've re-watched the video) rather then being malicious the guard just doesn't know what he is doing.