Poll: Sonic in 3D, What would you do to make it work?
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Calm down, kiddo, I know you're eager to earn some Internet Cred, but you need to relax.SirSchmoopy said:
I thought this discussion was of what would improve the Sonic franchise as a whole, not about how to improve on one game in particular. My last experience with him was in Sonic Heroes, not counting the competent DS games made by not Sonic Team, and from what I understand things have not improved much since then. I apologise for offending your tender sensibilities.
The best way to "improve" 3D Sonic games....using the search button. This thread has been done to death.
But on topic, the best way to improve 3D Sonic games would be to strip it down to the bare essentials; an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog, high speed gameplay, collecting rings, saving little forest critters. No convoluted plots involving evil genies or doppleganger King Arthur. No pulling a MGS4 and trying to fit as many bloody characters into the game as possible. No adding new characters who we still don't care about. No creepy inter-species relationship implications by having a human love interest. No guns. No cheesy one-liners. Just plain Sonic.
Barring that, a .30-06 works just as well.
But on topic, the best way to improve 3D Sonic games would be to strip it down to the bare essentials; an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog, high speed gameplay, collecting rings, saving little forest critters. No convoluted plots involving evil genies or doppleganger King Arthur. No pulling a MGS4 and trying to fit as many bloody characters into the game as possible. No adding new characters who we still don't care about. No creepy inter-species relationship implications by having a human love interest. No guns. No cheesy one-liners. Just plain Sonic.
Barring that, a .30-06 works just as well.
Sonic should have never gone full 3D. if you remember a little game named Sonic 3D Blast. that's where it all started to go wrong. that game (i was like 10) at the time was fun. but looking back at the game and what has happened. it sucked and i blame Sonic's downfall on that game right there and the genius that came up with it
Now making Sonic better. They can still go 3D but if they keep the same level design they did in Sonic, 2,3, Sonic and Knuckles and Sonic CD (my favorite one) but rendered the backgrounds out in 3D and the characters. then that would work. If they really want to have some open world thing that's easy to do. between each level and only between each level. allow the player to buy shields. just shields. we don't need a bloody wind kick or fire tornado. just the bubble, fire and lighting shields. it's a simple rule of them with old games like this. K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple Stupid) Sega messed up and being as old as i am and playing the first sonic game on day 1 i feel this is the only way they can possibly save this series. other wise, Sonic needs to bend over and kiss his ass good bye because he wont survive at this rate
Now making Sonic better. They can still go 3D but if they keep the same level design they did in Sonic, 2,3, Sonic and Knuckles and Sonic CD (my favorite one) but rendered the backgrounds out in 3D and the characters. then that would work. If they really want to have some open world thing that's easy to do. between each level and only between each level. allow the player to buy shields. just shields. we don't need a bloody wind kick or fire tornado. just the bubble, fire and lighting shields. it's a simple rule of them with old games like this. K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple Stupid) Sega messed up and being as old as i am and playing the first sonic game on day 1 i feel this is the only way they can possibly save this series. other wise, Sonic needs to bend over and kiss his ass good bye because he wont survive at this rate
Um, where did you get that I don't like Sonic X? I hate the 4Kids Macekre [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Macekre] of it, but 4Kids [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourKidsEntertainment] ruins everything. You can find the uncut, subtitled version on YouTube here [http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0EA130A079332EC8], and it's awesome.sonicspin said:
Fine, I didn't see that article. I didn't know much about the internet in 1999, the year you say it was taken down. All I ever heard the name from was the American cartoons and comics, and the instruction manuals for the American releases (and the manuals for the American games originally called Amy Rose "Princess Sally" so they didn't exactly have the best track record). I've seen one too many Macekres [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Macekre] over the years, and I just assumed it was the same case here. If there is a copy of that interview still floating around the web (there usually is), I'd definitely like to read it.Charli said:
(BTW, if Sonic's world was supposed to look like a Mobius ring, why does it look exactly like Earth when we see it from space in SA2? Sonic X explained that, but the games never did, so I assumed it had ALWAYS been taking place on Earth. did Sonic Team make Sonic X the official explanation?)
My thoughts exactly, Sonics strength in 2D was his continuous speed, which could easily be incorporated into a free running theme. Now if they could turn Sonic into a freerunning blue blur without ripping off all of Mirrors Edge and add some of that classis Sonic magic, they could make a tolerable game.Indigo_Dingo said:
Not good mind you.
Just tolerable.
Imagine the game that the collective brains of the Escapist forums could make. Although the phrase "Too many cooks..." springs to mind, it would still be a cool idea. I know theres a few skilled people here who could create a playable game.sonicspin said:
Great, adding to a discussion without a knowledge base of the games. How helpful! Thats like adding to a "How to improve Mario" thread but haven't posted since the NES days.searanox said:
The gameplay style has not changed significantly in the last two or three 3D Sonic games; in fact, outside of the semi-2D stuff in Unleashed, and the on-rails controls of the Wii versions, the formula has been near-identical since Sonic Adventure. Stop with the straw man argument and try addressing something relevant that I've said.SirSchmoopy said:
I'm thinking Sonic in a Shadow of the Collossus type world where he can run as fast as he liked in a an open world and can then harness his speed in epic bossfights that are in large arenas so there's no chance of having to look out for walls, also there should be less pitfalls.
Amy Rose's original name was actually Rosie the Rascal, Princess sally is a completely different character all together. Mobius is actually Earth in the year 3,200 something. In sonic X they went back in time to when only humans were on the Earth.Sylocat said:
this was a really tough choice, but i went with new voice actors. seriously, i think i could do better. if i could do one thing that wasnt on the list, it would be making sonic slow down. seriously, hes actually too fast. oh and maybe make the characters grow up a bit. im tired of tails being eight years old and still being the best engineer in the world, this combined with his complete inability to shut up.