Basically my thoughts about the light saber fights in the OT and Prequels. The way the fights were more than just fights but helped to reveal things about the characters.MarsAtlas said:I loved it. They did a much better of capturing why the lightsaber duels in the original trilogy were so good. Its not the choreography, its the emotion. The one in A New Hope hardly qualifies as a duel at all. They're not really fighting with swords as they are fighting with words and faith. In Empire Strikes Back Luke is clearly outmatched in both dueling skill and mastery of the Force. He simply can't keep up and Vader is mocking him the entire time silently by not taking a lunge to defeat him when he has the chance. He even starts using the Force to throw objects at him, teasing him maliciously. Its great because it makes Luke feel powerless, which is important because Vader wants him to be lured to the Dark Side. In Return of the Jedi, it isn't choreography that wins the day, it is pure rage. Luke lets go of all of his restrain and just anhillates Vader.
That said they split the difference, leaning far more heavily over to the original trilogy. Is there more action? Yes. But its action with emotional heft. They get bruised and cut and stabbed. They feel pain during the fight and lash out at their opponent by punching and kicking them. The fight in TFA wasn't a pure emotional gauntlet with no real fight like in the original trilogy and it was flashy dancing like the prequels but a middle ground between the two that is much dirtier for it. They felt a lot like the lightsaber duels you had with others when you were a kid.
YES! So glad you made a point about it. I thought it was stupid as fuck in terms of strategy but it fits perfectly when you treat it not as a defense, not even as an offense really, but as a way for him to be sadistic to those he is fighting in battle.Renegade-pizza said:PS. That's what the crossguards on Kylo's lightsaber were for.
The cross guards on Ren's saber are because the crystal in it is cracked most likely caused when he destroyed the new jedi order, which is why his blade looks less stable and the cross guard are vents for excess energy, which is a pretty clever metaphor for Ren himself. Also which is probably a reason he wants Luke's old saber since it's undamaged.
I still don't believe Rey beating him makes any sense. Yes, he was injured but not to bad to prevent him catching up to Rey and Fin in the first place. Yes, Ren is clearly no master swordsman, but that was literally the first time Rey had used a lightsaber, Fin had more experience then her.