Poll: Steam, how do you feel about it?
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I love steam...however it has two flaws:
1: Price, since game prices on steam are set by the developers they tend to be a little higher than the average high street.
2: Availablity, Steam lacks support from several key developers and studios, meaning that alot of games dont come out on steam at all or only after a long delay.
1: Price, since game prices on steam are set by the developers they tend to be a little higher than the average high street.
2: Availablity, Steam lacks support from several key developers and studios, meaning that alot of games dont come out on steam at all or only after a long delay.
HA! That made me laugh... thanks.Zachary Amaranth said:
Because having to have a 20 Mb client (that doesn't even need to be connected to the internet) is such an intense sacrifice.
Because the port was unadulterated junk?cfieldplatt said:
Now, the platform that offered me S.T.A.L.K.E.R. for $2 plus modding capability... THAT was awesome.
I do not understand the anti digital distrobution movements, no one seems to make any informed statements about it other than GAWD IT SUX GAISE.
Having said that, I find steam a convinient and cheap way to connect with friends and purchase games. Plus I am on internode who give unmetered steam downloads.....
Having said that, I find steam a convinient and cheap way to connect with friends and purchase games. Plus I am on internode who give unmetered steam downloads.....
I hate it, it keeps forcing me to give out money because of its really really cheap deals. Fuck you Steam...Fuck you!
Yeah, lack of competition on the format. Oh wait, there's half a dozen DD services of PC, each competiting with each other. Even if consoles go DD-only, I'd imagine most publishers will reduce the price after a while to squeeze out the last bit of profit. As for the rest of your comments, it all boils down to something that you can argue already happens (e.g. disc breaks, loss of CD key). Resale has been something that's pretty much non-existent for PCs anyway, and if publishers get their way it may turn true for consoles as well.Garak73 said:
Ironically, the only format capable of going DD-only at the moment, the PC, is the one least likely to go completely (someone will always print a special-edition disc).
You have something against people protecting their livelihood? I don't understand why DRM is so hated, all it is is people trying to make sure that you have paid for the right to use something that they have spent hundreds of hours into producing. And Steam is the best way to do it, you don't have limited licenses so you can install it onto as many computers as you want, or reinstall a game multiple times if you reformat your hard drive frequently. All you have to do is prove that you own the steam copy of the game. All modable games on steam can still be modded so it doesn't impede there either.Zachary Amaranth said:
So, explain to me, what the issue is?
In response to what you have said:Garak73 said:
You don't own the game, you are renting it.
I am happy with borrow forever as opposed to own.
No resales on games I dislike
This, I will concur, has some merit. There is not much I can do if I do not like it yes, but of course, I can at least try and make an effort and purchase from friend recomendations and reviews and whatnot. But yes, there is that odd chance, has not happened to me yet.
No resales on games I like
This does not bother me at all as a matter of personal preference. I like to hold onto my games and replay them, so by the time I would consider selling them, they would be worth a grand two dollars. So that does not bother me at all.
Prices never going down
I have never thought about this as it has never ended up a problem for me. All my purchases are either:
-A- Games bought on release for the usual price, as one would pay retail
-B- Cheaper indie games and whatnot that only cost me tiny amounts, and I consider it worth it anyway.
I can see how it would be a problem, if, say, I wanted to buy, say, Mass Effect 2 now, and in that realm, yes, digital does fall short, but as I say, not bothering me.
In response to what you have said:Engarde said:
You don't own the game, you are renting it.
I am happy with borrow forever as opposed to own.
No resales on games I dislike
This, I will concur, has some merit. There is not much I can do if I do not like it yes, but of course, I can at least try and make an effort and purchase from friend recomendations and reviews and whatnot. But yes, there is that odd chance, has not happened to me yet.
No resales on games I like
This does not bother me at all as a matter of personal preference. I like to hold onto my games and replay them, so by the time I would consider selling them, they would be worth a grand two dollars. So that does not bother me at all.
Prices never going down
I have never thought about this as it has never ended up a problem for me. All my purchases are either:
-A- Games bought on release for the usual price, as one would pay retail
-B- Cheaper indie games and whatnot that only cost me tiny amounts, and I consider it worth it anyway.
I can see how it would be a problem, if, say, I wanted to buy, say, Mass Effect 2 now, and in that realm, yes, digital does fall short, but as I say, not bothering me.
Sorry about missing your post earlier, browsing in multiple tabs and not paying much attention.
Well I've used it once. I bought Audiosurf and then it said I needed Steam. First it annoyed me because I had to go download it...and second because I didn't have the Internet...
The problem the WiiWare and Arcade has is that it's very restricted in terms of price. It's either A, B, or C. Full games don't/won't have this problem. To use an example, the new Medal of Honor game is available for £35 from EA themselves and Direct2drive, and, unusually, for £30 from Steam. Battlefield Bad Company 2 is £35 from EA... but £20 from Steam, Direct2drive and Gamersgate.Garak73 said:
You'll be surprised how much influence Steam's competitors have. Weekend deals, for example, AFAIK was an Impulse invention.
Frankly, I think you're a bit paranoid.
Yes, probably. The number of Mac games pre-Steam was insignificant. Now Valve has ported over most of their back catalogue (up to Half Life 2). Hopefully, it'll prompt more Mac ports (for example, Assassin Creed 2's just got a Mac port).Garak73 said:
I personally don't care for it much, but I personally can't handle hot very well and... Oh! You mean the game library from Valve! I'm sorry!
All joking aside, I love it. It gives me access to games and demos that I wouldn't have normally.
All joking aside, I love it. It gives me access to games and demos that I wouldn't have normally.