Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?

[Jester00]

i don't smoke weed, but alcohol is legal, so why isn't weed?

 

[Harlemura]

It's not so much I think the same people would care less, it's that there'd be more people influenced. "New people", if you will, who don't drink much but would be doing some sort of substance every other hour, now out on the road since it seems a little more acceptable.
Heck, maybe the same people would act differently under drugs rather than alcohol. Going out with the mindset "I haven't drunk anything, I'll be fine".

So, you believe that a sizeable portion of the part of the population which consists of people who never drink are instead likely to take up frequent smoking of cannabis?

You don't think the people most likely to smoke cannabis are the people who already drink alcohol frequently?

That does sound infinitely more likely.

It's like I said, I don't have any evidence or anything to back my stuff up, I'm just spouting my assumptions. I know I'm wrong, I thought we established this, we'll leave it at that.
I'm not good at this thought out debate malarckey.

 

[Liberaliter]

Even if weed was harmful (it isn't) it should be legal anyway. I'd say we should have the right to do and take whatever we want. Whilst on the subject, all drugs should be legalised. That way those stupid enough to take things like cocaine and heroin would be killed, gene pool cleansing baby.

 

[CrazyCapnMorgan]

*sigh*

Do I have to do this again??? Christ, nearly twenty years and people STILL haven't gotten the hint...

 

[Dense_Electric]

Absolutely legalize. I don't really care how harmful it is, the simple fact of the matter is that, in a free country, the individual has the freedom to do anything that does not deprive another individual of their freedom. An individual can't choose to use drugs in the privacy of their own homes? Then it's not a free country.

 

[tehweave]

Either outlaw booze or legalize and regulate weed.

Prohibition. In the 20s. It didn't last long. We need to win over weed. WE CAN DO IT.

 

[Iron Lightning]

Even if weed was harmful (it isn't) it should be legal anyway. I'd say we should have the right to do and take whatever we want. Whilst on the subject, all drugs should be legalised. That way those stupid enough to take things like cocaine and heroin would be killed, gene pool cleansing baby.

The only problem with that is when people get others killed whilst on drugs. People on cocaine can become incredibly aggressive and almost uncaring of injury, they're the kind of people you don't want a bar full of.

If everyone took drugs and then sat quietly I'd not really care, but they don't. They take drugs and then they get real stupid and try and do things, people on drugs aren't very good at doing things.

That's true but does it really matter? The idea here is personal responsibility. If a man kills someone, does it make a difference if the man was intoxicated or not? The answer to that question is another question: would the man still committed murder if he wasn't intoxicated or wasn't sober? As there are no drugs that directly cause a man to murder, the man must've had the potential to commit murder in him. It was the man's fault and not the drug's. Furthermore, if the man is the sort who can commit murder, that most heinous of crimes, I daresay he would not be dissuaded from drug use, the most benign of crimes. The only time that a drug could be blamed for the murder is if the drug in question causes most men to murder.

It is my belief that no one should have the right to restrict what a person does to his/her own body as long as that action does not harm or endanger others. There is no problem in a person doing heroin in the comfort of his/her own home, but there is a problem with someone doing heroin while flying a packed 747. Therefore the illegal action should not be doing heroin but doing heroin while flying the aforementioned 747. There are laws against public drunkenness and driving while drunk but the consumption of alcohol is not forbidden. This is how I feel it should be with all drugs.

Since we are talking about marijuana in particular here, I feel that it's necessarily to point out that marijuana is a very relaxing drug and one is substantially less likely to intentionally harm others while on it.

 

[Cheesus333]

I'm tempted to say 'Yes, make it legal just so we can all stop talking about it', but that would be naive. Because I know that if it was legal, we'd just have the same argument backwards.

So I'm on the fence. I don't give a shit. And if that apathetic statement leads to my ironic death in a marijuana-related incident, then so fucking be it.

 

[Skeleton Jelly]

Too much...stupidity....in this....thread...

As a large group of people that smoke weed and are perfectly fine contributers to society (or at least not making it worse), I say decriminalize it. Stop punishing me for the choices I make that IN ALL REALITY don't have any severe consequences. You know why smoking doesn't? Cause I'm no dipshit and can keep it under control and moderate it.

Now legalize it and sell it so we get purer weed and successfully kill the marijuana drug trade.

Keep this in mind anti-weed folks. Is it the drug that's bad, or the retards YOU'VE seen?
As a "stoner" (I really hate that term) I can say a good %50 of weed smokers shouldn't be smoking weed because they simply can't handle it. They're immature, inconsiderate or out of control.

 

[linkvegeta]

Its safer and better for a person than alcohol, in my opinion I would have to say make weed legal and make booze illegal.

 

[Red Right Hand]

Cannabis is an odd one. In theory it's harmless but in practice the UK saw a huge upsurge in usage when it was reduced to class C, this wouldn't have been a problem but we also started to see increasingly strong evidence of cannabis being linked to mental illness. Another factor that became increasingly clear was that the 'gentle stoner' stereotype was as much a product of the old cannabis culture as it was of the drug itself, as the number of users grew their connection with the 'stoner' ideal disappeared and plenty of violent crimes were committed while high. Basically the English brought our traditional slightly Nordic approach to drinking (a lot at once) to cannabis use and people were simply not doing what you'd expect stoners to do.

Source for that?

As far as I know, it was raised back to Class B against the advice of that guy who's name I forget. Anyone know? It was the guy that was fired for disagreeing with the decision.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

It can bring out the worst in people.

...Please explain this part of your argument. I'm pretty sure being lazy is not the worst in people.

 

[Adam28]

The problem here that people are forgetting is the obvious increase in people taking it, resulting in a huge increase in problems.


We will just be adding a load of more problems to society if we legalise it no matter how bad it is.

 

[Tdc2182]

Keep that shit illegal. Peoiple are stupid and mentally fogged up enough already, why hand them another way to go the way of the retard? Keep them hungry, desperate, poor and on the run.

So only stupid poor people smoke pot?

OT: Legalize it. It's causing more harm than good.

 

[Adam28]

Keep this in mind anti-weed folks. Is it the drug that's bad, or the retards YOU'VE seen?
As a "stoner" (I really hate that term) I can say a good %50 of weed smokers shouldn't be smoking weed because they simply can't handle it. They're immature, inconsiderate or out of control.

You see the problem is, it is the increase in "retards" we will see that should keep it illegal. If you are saying about 50% can't handle it (which I know may not be true) then we don't want it easier for those people to obtain it as well as increase in people smoking weed. Yes, it is unfair on you guys that can handle the drug but we have to consider society as a whole.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

Cannabis is an odd one. In theory it's harmless but in practice the UK saw a huge upsurge in usage when it was reduced to class C, this wouldn't have been a problem but we also started to see increasingly strong evidence of cannabis being linked to mental illness. Another factor that became increasingly clear was that the 'gentle stoner' stereotype was as much a product of the old cannabis culture as it was of the drug itself, as the number of users grew their connection with the 'stoner' ideal disappeared and plenty of violent crimes were committed while high. Basically the English brought our traditional slightly Nordic approach to drinking (a lot at once) to cannabis use and people were simply not doing what you'd expect stoners to do.

Source for that?

As far as I know, it was raised back to Class B against the advice of that guy who's name I forget. Anyone know? It was the guy that was fired for disagreeing with the decision.

David Nutt?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334774.stm

 

[RamirezDoEverything]

Either outlaw booze or legalize and regulate weed.

I was about to post this, word for word.

 

[elcamino41383]

Not weeding through 15 pages of posts to find if anyone said it but I'm going to agree with Daniel Tosh on this one.

little over a minute in. I know many on this site hate Tosh, but whatever.

I also hate the smell of weed SO much so I would prefer to keep it illegal for that aspect too because I don't want to smell it more than I have to.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

Ugh... this thread again. Unless I've already posted in it since it is quite old. So I'll just say what I've said before...

Ok, either make weed legal or alcohol illegal. One way or another. It doesn't make sense to have certain things illegal while others are legal. Even the "hard" drugs people still get, so just by saying they're illegal stops no one. All it does is put junkies in need of medical help in jail. If it were up to me, I'd make smoking and drinking illegal as well, but we all know that no one will follow/enforce those rules anyway.

And pot is so common and easy to get that the fact that it's still illegal is kind of a joke.

 

[Adam28]

You see the problem is, it is the increase in "retards" we will see that should keep it illegal. If you are saying about 50% can't handle it (which I know may not be true) then we don't want it easier for those people to obtain it as well as increase in people smoking weed. Yes, it is unfair on you guys that can handle the drug but we have to consider society as a whole.

What harm do they do to society that justifies a complete ban on the substance?

Drug driving - it may not increase to a point as bad as drunk driving but it will increase.

Lung Disease and Cancer - Again, may not be as bad as tobacco but will still cause an increase in both. Some people mix it with tobacco too, although it is unfair on those who don't, it could mean an increase in smokers.

Fertility - Apparently it can reduce sperm count in a Man after heavy use, as well as reduce the chances of Women getting pregnant after heavy use.

Concentration - Can cause problems in learning and concentration.

Mental problems - It can cause people to become anxious, suspicious or paranoid.

Even if the drug isn't as bad as alcohol or tobacco, we still are introducing (or increasing) these problems by legalising the drug. It doesn't matter if people can be responsible either, there is always going to be a lot of people causing problems just like with alcohol.