Poll: What is your stance on JRPGs?
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The poll needs an "other" option, because mine most definetely is not on there. I love anime, manga, and such, but I just can't stand JRPG's. They're so repetetive... grah. I honestly don't see how anyone can like them, but I let people keep that to themselves as long as they don't try to give me a JRPG.
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I don't personally like them but I could see why maybe some people might like them. I think western RPG's are way better.
I'm a half fan, most JRPGs are clones of each other, same story similar characters and all, but there are some real gems, outside the FF group. Skies of Arcadia was mentioned before and that is one of my all time fav games!! I've played through it many times. Good story, characters were fun, not totally irritating, the addition of the ship to ship combat was the games new idea, and though it worked Fantastically, it hasn't been repeated.
I clicked "western style are better" because in my experience they tend to be just a half notch better on average than JRPG but i have played some JRPGs that blow many amazing western RPGs out of the water.
Edit: Some people have been saying that most JRPGs are clones and thats true but so are many western RPGs. Just saying...
Edit: Some people have been saying that most JRPGs are clones and thats true but so are many western RPGs. Just saying...
Even though I've got a JRPG as my #1 best console game of all-time (FF6), I'm generally bored stiff and completely disinterested in the genre. As for anime, don't even get me started. I think I'd hate it less if it weren't for the annoying "desu kawaii ^_^" otaku crowd attached to it.
The JRPGs from the SNES generation were very well done. The stories captivated me and the environment fascinated me. That being said lately JRPs are following different trends which reflect more from the current Japanese respective subculture. IMO present day JRPGs are terrible because of this.
Today's RPGs from a western perspective are picking up the slack thank goodness, and I think it is because we are taking new ideas to the field. From older games like Balder's Gate, to Deus Ex which combined FPS with a very well done plot making it more of a RPG, to something like KotOR, to today's RPGs like Fallout 3 and Mass Effect(cool story, less will be said about gameplay).
While Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and FF6 will always have a place with me, western rpgs give me more variety and something else to look forward to. It's a tough pick if I took the entire time line into account but I'd say that currently Western RPGs are far better than current Japanese RPGs.
Today's RPGs from a western perspective are picking up the slack thank goodness, and I think it is because we are taking new ideas to the field. From older games like Balder's Gate, to Deus Ex which combined FPS with a very well done plot making it more of a RPG, to something like KotOR, to today's RPGs like Fallout 3 and Mass Effect(cool story, less will be said about gameplay).
While Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and FF6 will always have a place with me, western rpgs give me more variety and something else to look forward to. It's a tough pick if I took the entire time line into account but I'd say that currently Western RPGs are far better than current Japanese RPGs.
I Have one of the most variety when it comes to games. I enjoy almost every genre of game there is (Except sports, cant do sports games). Recently JRPGs have been high on my list because I've been Joygasming every day about dissidia lately and have played every final fantasy in anticipation. Im on ten now and loving it.
mmmm, playable demo comes out tomorrow (Jul,23) yay!! I didn't bother to import since I'd rather understand whats being said. I will not sleep until I have that demo!!Rush_Thores said:
Whenever I crave for a good story, JRPG's are where I turn to. I also don't mind turn based combat, i actually enjoy it, I mean seriously it's not as bad as some people think it is. I'm sorta the other way around and tend to not be satisfied with WRPG's much...just just feel vapid and have no soul sometimes. They just become boring pointless grinds with shallow storylines. Thats not to say I have not played GOOD WRPG's, but most of them make me fall asleep.
Ok. Here is the funny part. Aside few, and by that I mean counted on the fingers of one hand, I consider most Jrpgs grindfests with flowcharts and stories written by people on drugs.
And yet I sometimes relish the idea of a grindfest every now and again. As long as it hasn't multiple kinds of grinding (eg weapons, skills, techniques, etc.) or difficult yet neccesary grinding (hello there Phantasy Star II)
As for western rpgs, while flowcharts still exist and combat is usually little more than clickfests, the story though is usually much better. Assuming it doesn't try to ape the bloody typical Tolkienesque mythology with disastrously laughable results yet again.
So, in my humble opinion, both western and eastern rpgs are flawed genres and in need of improvement. Mass Effect did provide an interesting, yet failed, attempt at improving combat and wasn't too complex. Now if the second one succeds at making the combat actually work great, then we could be looking at a great sequel.
And if both genres stopped using the "save the world from the evil wizard" plot point retardation, things could be better. Then again, the RPGs aren't the only genre to do that. A lot of films and games do that too. "Sigh"
And yet I sometimes relish the idea of a grindfest every now and again. As long as it hasn't multiple kinds of grinding (eg weapons, skills, techniques, etc.) or difficult yet neccesary grinding (hello there Phantasy Star II)
As for western rpgs, while flowcharts still exist and combat is usually little more than clickfests, the story though is usually much better. Assuming it doesn't try to ape the bloody typical Tolkienesque mythology with disastrously laughable results yet again.
So, in my humble opinion, both western and eastern rpgs are flawed genres and in need of improvement. Mass Effect did provide an interesting, yet failed, attempt at improving combat and wasn't too complex. Now if the second one succeds at making the combat actually work great, then we could be looking at a great sequel.
And if both genres stopped using the "save the world from the evil wizard" plot point retardation, things could be better. Then again, the RPGs aren't the only genre to do that. A lot of films and games do that too. "Sigh"
JRPGS have been my favorite genre and to this day that still holds true. I prefer games with a long detailed and engaging storyline with characters I can grow to care about. The storylines and/or character development presented in Lunar, Xenogears, Chrono Cross, FFX, Suikoden II and etc are fantastic. Unfortunately they have begun to heavily deviate from their roots, leaving us with games like FFXII. I want a complying storyline not a throw away MMO.
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I do like JRPGs, but I can definitely see how some people wouldn't. Like alot of people I was introduced to RPGs with FFVII, and now that Square Enix has gone down the crapper in my opinion, if anyone would like to recommend some JRPG's for playstation, I am all ears. (My PS3 is fully backwards compatible.)
You could say the same for almost every single genre of video games, or all kinds of media as a whole.ZerOmega said:
I find that ironic since the game was based off of WWII. But if you're one of those hardcore WWII historical nut-jobs I would understand your dislike of this game. Then again I would find people like you to complain just about everything that's related to WWII as pure crap. However if you don't, then you're just a hypocrite.Biek said:
I personally don't see the real difference between Western or Japanese RPGs. Both of them follow pretty linear stories that sound coincidentally similar to one another. But that's just my opinion. Also Anime is just like any show/movie with drama, just in an animated kind of format. Really I just don't see why some people love a certain show/movie when there is probably the same thing in Asia and choose to hate that one. It makes no sense to me.
I have grown out of them. Still I enjoyed played them.
Good points:
Kickass animation. Awesome attacks.
Good plots.
Developed characters.
Weak points:
Slow action.
Status are a bunch of big numbers which have a strange addictive property. (Eastern RPGs also have that).
Lots of emos and girly men.
Repectitive.
Nowadays storylines, plot and characters are getting old. New juice is needed.
Good points:
Kickass animation. Awesome attacks.
Good plots.
Developed characters.
Weak points:
Slow action.
Status are a bunch of big numbers which have a strange addictive property. (Eastern RPGs also have that).
Lots of emos and girly men.
Repectitive.
Nowadays storylines, plot and characters are getting old. New juice is needed.