You know, I'm not even getting this game, but you seriously need to learn that some people have different opinions to you.TomLikesGuitar said:
Do you like the Half-Life series, by any chance?
Poll: Why are you buying Black Ops?
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Do you like the Half-Life series, by any chance?
I can see reason behind all that, and even agree with you.Cowabungaa said:
Though, at some point I question myself: What is it _that_ new they couldn't have put in with a bigger patch? This is the bigger problem that, from my perspective, kills CoD. It's an unending and expensive stream of minor changes that loses any value the day it is bought.
EDIT: It only makes me think I'll be fcked over again, as always. The same way as with MW2 - I'll dislike it and they will announce an another "release that fixes the issues". Yeah, right. Learn to use patches.
Em you forgot probably the most important reason for a lot of PC users even considering to touch the game. Mod support and Dedicated servers.Prometherion said:
I will see how it goes but I may in time by the game as it has added back in what was taken out in MW2.
An interesting question, but I don't think that it's that hard to answer for BO. It's set in a completely different setting and thus a completely (and hopefully not as wanky) story, customisation is radically different, a lot of different gamemodes, dedicated servers, multiplayer bots (yay practice!), re-balanced and somewhat different killstreaks, perks and weapons.gl1koz3 said:
All in all it sounds more than enough to warrant a totally new game, one that can hopefully make me forget about MW2.
As for your edit, that's why I'm probably going to wait a bit before I'll actually get it. I want to be sure that isn't the case, or at least not as much as with MW2.
59£ is the cost of a regular game on Steam, if you're European. Now, I spent that money on WaW instead of something that, in retrospect would've been of much greater value to me.
I don't trust Treyarch enough to give that another shot. It's the same reason I will NEVER buy a Medal of Honor game again.
I can understand that such a standpoint may be narrow-minded if I applied it to everything, and I would have missed out on a truly great sequel (Assassin's Creed 2) if I had done so.
However, the difference is that the developers noted the issues in AC1 and set out to fix them in the sequel.
Treyarch has so far only acknowledged the flaws in Mw2's multiplayer and set out to fix those, but they still haven't given us any info about what they intend to do about their past mistakes, or even if they know there has been any past mistakes.
Now, I can understand this point of view will no doubt be met with harsh looks from the fans of the previous games, as well as those who have pre-ordered the current game. No-one likes having their favourite things tarnished by cynics such as me.
I've also been accused of nitpicking, due to me opting to complain about invisible walls, so I think I'll elaborate.
I agree with Yahtzee that invisible walls are the hallmark of shoddy game design. If there is an area in-game that looks like I should be able to go there, then I should be able to go there, otherwise it kills the immersion.
For instance, on the first level of WaW there's a rather big house in which enemies spawn and exit through an open door. There is nothing implying that the house is off-limits, and it would provide an excellent piece of cover for me. Thus I dart across the open field, through enemy fire, and smack I hit an invisible wall in the open doorway, can't take cover and die.
This is a great immersion-killer, and I never quite got it out of my head... of course the fact that the game is littered with these sorts of things doesn't help.
So, no WaW was a godawful example of bad game design, and I have no reason to believe Black Ops won't be the same. Buying into the pre-release hype is a great way to get suckered by games not up-to-par (see Medal of Honor).
This is why I will not buy Black Ops.
I don't trust Treyarch enough to give that another shot. It's the same reason I will NEVER buy a Medal of Honor game again.
I can understand that such a standpoint may be narrow-minded if I applied it to everything, and I would have missed out on a truly great sequel (Assassin's Creed 2) if I had done so.
However, the difference is that the developers noted the issues in AC1 and set out to fix them in the sequel.
Treyarch has so far only acknowledged the flaws in Mw2's multiplayer and set out to fix those, but they still haven't given us any info about what they intend to do about their past mistakes, or even if they know there has been any past mistakes.
Now, I can understand this point of view will no doubt be met with harsh looks from the fans of the previous games, as well as those who have pre-ordered the current game. No-one likes having their favourite things tarnished by cynics such as me.
I've also been accused of nitpicking, due to me opting to complain about invisible walls, so I think I'll elaborate.
I agree with Yahtzee that invisible walls are the hallmark of shoddy game design. If there is an area in-game that looks like I should be able to go there, then I should be able to go there, otherwise it kills the immersion.
For instance, on the first level of WaW there's a rather big house in which enemies spawn and exit through an open door. There is nothing implying that the house is off-limits, and it would provide an excellent piece of cover for me. Thus I dart across the open field, through enemy fire, and smack I hit an invisible wall in the open doorway, can't take cover and die.
This is a great immersion-killer, and I never quite got it out of my head... of course the fact that the game is littered with these sorts of things doesn't help.
So, no WaW was a godawful example of bad game design, and I have no reason to believe Black Ops won't be the same. Buying into the pre-release hype is a great way to get suckered by games not up-to-par (see Medal of Honor).
This is why I will not buy Black Ops.
I'm planning on getting it but that's mostly because despite its flaws I enjoyed MW2. I've said it before and that is that it managed to make me have fun in online multiplayer, so maybe Black Ops can do the same, especially now that I've done whats to do in MW2. I won't get it on launch and if its crap then I might reconsider but I won't judge the game before I've played it.
I am still undecided over whether I will purchase Black Ops or not. On one hand there are things about it I like but there are other games I would rather have eg AC2: Brotherhood and New Vegas. However, if I am correctly informed and New Vegas isn't available where I am then if I still have enough money after getting AC2:B then I might get Black Ops as well.
Every single Call of Duty after 2 has left a bad taste in my mouth due to how blatantly shit they are. There are just so many other good games out there I see no reason why anyone would purchase Black Ops.
Definitely Nazi zomibes, don't get me wrong the main campaign I'll probably enjoy. But the hours of fun I've gotten from Nazi Zombies is why.
I had to choose "because it's a COD game" in lieu of an option like "my friends are getting it and it's fun to play with friends"
Insanely fun, rebalanced multiplayer with new game modes, currency system and customization. Awesome-looking single player with a voiced protagonist (finally). Kennedy, Nixon, Castro and McNamara shooting zombies. Oh, and Rolling Stones in the soundtrack.
Why the fuck shouldn't I buy it?
Why the fuck shouldn't I buy it?
Because I loved the previous three installments, and Black Ops looks ready to overthrow all three combined.
No one reason has persuaded me to get it.
Graphics and gameplay look fabulous.
Zombies = EPIC
Multiplayer = Re-done, balanced, generally perfected.
Campaign = looks like they put a LOT of effort into it.
Characters/voice acting = ....Wow
New Gun Customisation = This is the reason my buying the game was set in stone. Looks too incredible to miss.
Theater/CoD-points/in-game economy = Stolen of Reach all the way, but I'm not complaining.
No one reason has persuaded me to get it.
Graphics and gameplay look fabulous.
Zombies = EPIC
Multiplayer = Re-done, balanced, generally perfected.
Campaign = looks like they put a LOT of effort into it.
Characters/voice acting = ....Wow
New Gun Customisation = This is the reason my buying the game was set in stone. Looks too incredible to miss.
Theater/CoD-points/in-game economy = Stolen of Reach all the way, but I'm not complaining.
ill just go with the second option.
im mainly getting it because A) it looks like its going to be great, and B) its made by Treyarch. CoD3 was one of the worst games ive ever played, but WaW was genuinely awesome. after such a vast improvement on that game, i have faith in them that Black Ops will be outstanding.
im mainly getting it because A) it looks like its going to be great, and B) its made by Treyarch. CoD3 was one of the worst games ive ever played, but WaW was genuinely awesome. after such a vast improvement on that game, i have faith in them that Black Ops will be outstanding.
