Poll: Why does everyone hate ME3 so badly?

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Buccura

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I'm liking the game a lot, and I plan to get the DLC today. Call me a corporate whore, if you must, but ME3 is providing me with a fantastic game to unwind with after a stressful day that I know will last me quite a while.

So what if the graphics aren't up to par with Crysis or Battlefield 3, I still find it very pleasing to the eye.

So what if the RPG aspect isn't as deep as ME1 was, I still find myself putting a lot of thought into what I spend my points on.

So what if whether a character survived or Died does not always result in a completely different outcome, it's still fun to simply see the results of my choices in past games.

As for the DLC, well, one should ask how much DLC is out there that barely gives you any content worth while for 10 bucks.

In other words, I find the game fun. And in the end, really, that is what matters.
 

Viirin

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Have you seen the ending? The entire game is great until the last 15 minutes, then they proceed to invalidate all your accomplishments and shoehorn you into three variations of the same ending that are all filled with plot-holes and are completely unsatisfying.

It turns out a large majority of your choices didn't actually mean anything, and for a series that's been boasting about it's choices actually meaning something for the past 5 years it has completely failed in that department.
I would have been happy with the ending actually being multiple possible text walls like the end of Dragon Age, letting you know the culmination of your choices in various story chains. In that regard..

I was seriously hoping that the 'paragon' ending would be that you find out how the harvested species that make up Reapers were changed, and so you get the chance to undo it. You can recover parts of each Reaper, restoring every species that ever went extinct. The Krogan have a cultural renaissance, the Quarians get over themselves and become friends with the Geth (who become kind of like a friendly Death Star, becoming a citadel race), Humans get a statue on the presidium, the Rachni's army does what they do best, and get a statue on the presidium and are accepted into galactic society. Had ideas for the other ending possibilities, but not writing them now.

I feel like all my choices were like family dinner. "Would you like pork chops or stir-fry for dinner?" The pork chops are already made, and your place at the table was set, just you weren't notified. "Oh you wanted stir-fry? Well this is what I made, so don't be rude and just eat it." It's like that.

Mass Effect 3 makes me want to play Star Ocean again. Star Ocean 2 has I think 43 endings. Each character you may or may not have had has multiple. They have so many because of who they might have joint ending cutscenes with, or an ending by themselves. It depends on friendship & love levels between the other characters. There aren't really any choices in that series, but they don't boast it, either. The main ending that is set is sad, but individual character endings might be funny or inspiring, or interesting, or just the character doing what they normally do.

Endings: Regardless of what Ending you get, you're destroying all life in the galaxy, even worse than the Reapers did. You DO die, and so do all other species? So, it doesn't matter who you side with or who you saved, because they're all dead anyhow. I only saw the 'synthesis' ending, but it wasn't very.. defined. What happened exactly? It looked like Joker got The Illusive Man's eyes, but that's it. Not sure if Joker & EDI blew up or are supposed to be Adam and Eve (oh and also Liara was there) or what.
Glitches. SO MANY times I had to restart a whole mission because a required cutscene didn't start and I had to NOT attack bad guys. You did too much damage with a sniper rifle! Bah. Or solar systems not showing up even after you got a quest to go there, and there was nothing to do. Other quests had other problems with this. I seriously question whether or not they even game-tested. Hell, half the time EDI used Decoy the Decoy was crouching on top of something, but she had no head.
Unfulfilled: You get to recruit Volus, Elcor and Batarian fleet/s, but never get to see their ships or fighters. I kind of wanted to see that. Or krogan riding on those big monsters that the heiroglyphics showed? That'd of been cool! But no. The Rachni, if you did save them, only count for 100 points because of their workers helping build the Crucible. You never get to see them- except for the queen, who for some reason can talk now? The only places you ever land are battle maps and the Citadel. I would have liked to see Kajhe and Decuuna. I was hoping to see Tali's face and be like 'wow they look a lot like cobras' but I didn't get to see her face- which is just as well, according to almost everyone. Instead she committed suicide by falling off a cliff. I never heard about Grunt or Jack. You hardly even get to talk to anyone this time around- and I really wanted to watch Legion do the robot.
 

Nothing Tra La La

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The game was, up until the ending, absolutely fantastic. Gameplay was incredibly fluid and fun, and the characters had been written so well that it just made the ending even more unfair.
I'm okay with Shep making the ultimate sacrifice, but I'm not okay with the complete bullshit reasoning. Kid AI saying that organics must be destroyed because they'll make synthetics that destroy them? What? Plus, it makes every choice you've made completely irrelevant.
The absolute worst part of the endings, for me at least, is that there is zero closure. You don't know what happens to your team mates, your friends, your love interest, hell, the rest of the galaxy. It's just "Shepard saved the day by dying, lol the end!"
I really feel like the ending(s) singlehandedly ruined the game for me. The biggest part of the Mass Effect series was, for me, it's replayability. I have so many Shepard's that I was ecstatic to bring into ME3. Now, I don't even want to bother because I know the bleak, unsatisfying outcome.
 

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Nothing Tra La La said:
I really feel like the ending(s) singlehandedly ruined the game for me. The biggest part of the Mass Effect series was, for me, it's replayability. I have so many Shepard's that I was ecstatic to bring into ME3. Now, I don't even want to bother because I know the bleak, unsatisfying outcome.
I have to agree. I waited in line for the midnight release starting at 7:15 PM, the first person in line at my location. I had no issue waiting 5 hours to get my copy. Now, if I knew it was a linear story with an unsatisfying ending (let's face it, it is one ending), then I'd only play it to enjoy the time I spent playing.
It's like watching Leverage. I love the show, but every season finale leaves something to be desired. I'm still a fan, because I know my fan-boner will go flaccid when the opposite should occur. But I know its going to happen, and am prepared and am still a fan. I enjoy what leads up to the ending, even though the ending always makes me bored. Wish I could say the same for Mass Effect, but I can't.

Captcha: real mccoy (star trek ftw)
 

Don Savik

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Bleak ending with cliffhangers and plot holes? This sounds like a case of....

DLC AND SEQUELS!!!!!

anything to set itself up for the next game right?

But honestly I'm not buying it for the fact that its content locked dlc garbage dilemma. And I know you will all say "dat wont do nuthin cuz everyone will still buy it lulz"

Yes, they will, but I'm not a spineless moron who goes against his ideals because they are unpopular. I'm not paying 60+ dollars for an incomplete game with a terrible ending. Not worth my money.

And the stock footage photoshop of Tali's face. Aint that a kick in the groin. Bioware = ultimate trolls.
 

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So is everyone Ready for the Mass Effect 3 Broken Steel DLC?
 

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boag said:
So is everyone Ready for the Mass Effect 3 Broken Steel DLC?
You know what? Yes I am, if it makes the ending tolerable the game will be catapulted back into the game of the years spot it was so cozily occupying for me before the ending popped up. Until then it's a mashup between bioshock infinite and Halo 4
 

Jeff Gennick

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Why I hate it? I don't, but I'm not going to buy it until I don't have to get Origin. I don't want to support EA as much as I can.

Voting with my wallet and all that.
 

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The only thing I hate about ME3 right now is the glitches in multiplayer. I dropped like 10 hours into the damn thing, lol sorry glitch to relock everything you've unlocked, have fun basically starting over. Until the fix it I've given up bothering to do multiplayer.
 

Darkwhite

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The game its self, I'm really enjoying, however the galaxy at war that (more or less) requires you to play online if you want to get the good ending. Now considering they were talking about multiplayer not affecting the single player, I'm rather hacked off about this since I don't want to play online and neither is the thought of scanning everything and doing every side quest (they add up) really that appealing...
 

Zetsubou-Sama

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Your choices matter, god even the dlc options found a way into the game, most people i caught saying that are just pissed (with good reason) at the ending, still doesn't change the fact that a lot of the choices youa mde through the first 2 games have consequences.

Graphics are the same as Mass Effect 2 and those are pretty ok in my book. The dialogue has choices, most people i've seen pulling that card have been people who just started playing the game, I agree until Mars you are pretty much held by the hand, but eventually the dialogue starts to branch out.

You may not always have the branching dialogue, but I prefer the dialogue having flow, and being unique, than spamming options to see if they have other things to say, and as opposed to ME2 I love the diversity in banter, discussion and interactions between the crew not only with you but with the people around you. And I found most of the dialogue from ME2 to be much more cheesy than ME3.

I was afraid ME3 would also suffer from "we all die the most noble death" but I was glad how they were all tastefully and heart wrenchingly done

Mass Effect 3 was to me an amazing experience, the DLC thing and the Tali thing altough shitty don't take away from the excellent game.

The endings though.... those left a sour taste in my mouth.

Darkwhite said:
The game its self, I'm really enjoying, however the galaxy at war that (more or less) requires you to play online if you want to get the good ending. Now considering they were talking about multiplayer not affecting the single player, I'm rather hacked off about this since I don't want to play online and neither is the thought of scanning everything and doing every side quest (they add up) really that appealing...
You don't have to play the Multiplayer, doing the Citadel and Probe missions allows you to achieve the 5000 threshold for the best possible endings.
 

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Zetsubou-Sama said:
Your choices matter, god even the dlc options found a way into the game, most people i caught saying that are just pissed (with good reason) at the ending, still doesn't change the fact that a lot of the choices youa mde through the first 2 games have consequences.

Graphics are the same as Mass Effect 2 and those are pretty ok in my book. The dialogue has choices, most people i've seen pulling that card have been people who just started playing the game, I agree until Mars you are pretty much held by the hand, but eventually the dialogue starts to branch out.

You may not always have the branching dialogue, but I prefer the dialogue having flow, and being unique, than spamming options to see if they have other things to say, and as opposed to ME2 I love the diversity in banter, discussion and interactions between the crew not only with you but with the people around you. And I found most of the dialogue from ME2 to be much more cheesy than ME3.

I was afraid ME3 would also suffer from "we all die the most noble death" but I was glad how they were all tastefully and heart wrenchingly done

Mass Effect 3 was to me an amazing experience, the DLC thing and the Tali thing altough shitty don't take away from the excellent game.

The endings though.... those left a sour taste in my mouth.

Darkwhite said:
The game its self, I'm really enjoying, however the galaxy at war that (more or less) requires you to play online if you want to get the good ending. Now considering they were talking about multiplayer not affecting the single player, I'm rather hacked off about this since I don't want to play online and neither is the thought of scanning everything and doing every side quest (they add up) really that appealing...
You don't have to play the Multiplayer, doing the Citadel and Probe missions allows you to achieve the 5000 threshold for the best possible endings.
I know you don't have to, but from what I gather there is almost no leeway with it, a couple of things get locked out and you can't end it that way, of course this may all be bad info I've been getting, even so, not fond of those online players getting an easy ride. =p I also have no idea how a squad of krogan can be as valuable to a war effort as an armada...not a complaint, just wondering how they worked out the values
 

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Basically Borderlands... IN SPACE! At least the graphics and story are good like Borderlands though like Borderlands, the endings both were unsatisfying.
 

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The gameplay is the best of the series, more challenging than the previous installment with intelligent enemies, the story is top notch as always, and the squad mates are always a joy to listen to.

But my big problem with it is the ending. I actually might've preferred sequel bait than an "open to interpretation" ending.

But all in all its an amazing game.
 

Zetsubou-Sama

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Darkwhite said:
I know you don't have to, but from what I gather there is almost no leeway with it, a couple of things get locked out and you can't end it that way, of course this may all be bad info I've been getting, even so, not fond of those online players getting an easy ride =p
This is true, you have to do a 99% sidequest run for the best endings but to be honest the way they use war assets as rewards for sidequests kind of tricked me into feeling compelled to do it not for the endings, but because i wanted to have those Heavy artillery Elchor in my fleet of awesomeness
 

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Aside from a few bugs it was going great until the ending. God damn what a way to ruin a great game.