Poll: Why isn't Australia in any shooters?
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Ooh, how about a "Monster Hunter Oz"? Similar to Monster Hunter Tri (except good) but set in the Aussie outback, and the objective is to survive the wildlife? It'd be like Steve Irwin with weapons, but you'd die long before getting as far as stingrays.
I was exaggerating.Trolldor said:
There are some genuinely good Australian films, but the crap far outnumbers them. OT again: I'd actually kind of like to see a video game following Aussie soldiers in WW1. I don't know that anyone would be interested in making it, but our soldiers had a reputation amongst of being violent, unpredictable savages, and it'd be amusing to see that going on in the context of the first World War.
Besides which, why do we never get any games based in that period of time? I know that if it was done in CoD style, the one shot rifles and crappy technology would make it boring as shit, but surely there must be a good way of doing it. I mean, it's not as if the first world war wasn't exciting or anything.[footnote]Well, the majority of it would have been boring as hell, but that's the way of all wars, I'm told. I meant the battles.
[/footnote]Though I gotta say, while there aren't any shooters based in Australia, there are a ton of thriller and action books that Australia features prominently in. Despite this, most if not all are written by Australian authors which kind of takes the fun out of it.
There was Gallipoli, but I don't think all that much of it.Bobbity said:I was exaggerating.Trolldor said:
OT again: I'd actually kind of like to see a video game following Aussie soldiers in WW1. I don't know that anyone would be interested in making it, but our soldiers had a reputation amongst of being violent, unpredictable savages, and it'd be amusing to see that going on in the context of the first World War.
Besides which, why do we never get any games based in that period of time? I know that if it was done in CoD style, the one shot rifles and crappy technology would make it boring as shit, but surely there must be a good way of doing it. I mean, it's not as if the first world war wasn't exciting or anything.[footnote]Well, the majority of it would have been boring as hell, but that's the way of all wars, I'm told. I meant the battles.
To be fair, before Wolf Creek I don't think I could have made that comment.Bobbity said:I was exaggerating.Trolldor said:
OT again: I'd actually kind of like to see a video game following Aussie soldiers in WW1. I don't know that anyone would be interested in making it, but our soldiers had a reputation amongst of being violent, unpredictable savages, and it'd be amusing to see that going on in the context of the first World War.
Besides which, why do we never get any games based in that period of time? I know that if it was done in CoD style, the one shot rifles and crappy technology would make it boring as shit, but surely there must be a good way of doing it. I mean, it's not as if the first world war wasn't exciting or anything.[footnote]Well, the majority of it would have been boring as hell, but that's the way of all wars, I'm told. I meant the battles.
Because all the Australian developers are making American shooters or have shut down.
Also, it's the Aussie film argument ? it's classified as foreign, so no-one bothers to watch it unless it has a scene of the hero abseiling down a firey liftshaft or at least one gratuitous sex scene.
Also, it's the Aussie film argument ? it's classified as foreign, so no-one bothers to watch it unless it has a scene of the hero abseiling down a firey liftshaft or at least one gratuitous sex scene.
Like everyone else has said, there isn't enough Political interest going on. We were attacked, what, twice in WW1-2. We had a bombing in Darwin and Japanese subs in Sydney harbour. That's it.
Also, we don't have gun shops. Only farmers have them. And Australian farmers almost never use them. (they use their hands, yah)
The only game I think would fit is in the 18 hundreds, when it was being colonised. You had hardcore bushrangers who stole stuff and killed more people than any famous gunslinger in the West. Then there are convicts who were seperated from everyone they knew and are just trying to survive. Then there are migrants from China, Germany, Italy, Greece, England, Scotland, Ireland... Mix in the jerk white (mostly British and Australian) guys who killed native Aboriginals and took their women. All this happened while trying to survive in an extremely dry, strange land. Farming was a shambles for a while.
You've got some pretty heavy stuff to work with there. The only thing is... I can't imagine any good guy role for this. Not for a first person shooter. Maybe a survival game. Ah, I don't know.
This would also be very controversal. The government is very touchy about Aboriginals these days and if you had a game in which they were killed, there'd be serious trouble.
Also, we don't have gun shops. Only farmers have them. And Australian farmers almost never use them. (they use their hands, yah)
The only game I think would fit is in the 18 hundreds, when it was being colonised. You had hardcore bushrangers who stole stuff and killed more people than any famous gunslinger in the West. Then there are convicts who were seperated from everyone they knew and are just trying to survive. Then there are migrants from China, Germany, Italy, Greece, England, Scotland, Ireland... Mix in the jerk white (mostly British and Australian) guys who killed native Aboriginals and took their women. All this happened while trying to survive in an extremely dry, strange land. Farming was a shambles for a while.
You've got some pretty heavy stuff to work with there. The only thing is... I can't imagine any good guy role for this. Not for a first person shooter. Maybe a survival game. Ah, I don't know.
This would also be very controversal. The government is very touchy about Aboriginals these days and if you had a game in which they were killed, there'd be serious trouble.
* Americans are the biggest market for games and they mystifyingly want games about themselves all the time, so that's what the market caters for. There's enough risks as it is publishing a big-budget game title, why take a further risky step by setting it somewhere your thickeared 11 year old audience can't relate to.Dylan Bonnett said:
* Very few people outside Australia ever get Australian accents right, so making an Australian title would be taxing on voice talent.
* Most of the major conficts Australians have been in (colossal failure at Galippoli, Darwin getting the crap bombed out of it, etc) kinda sucked and would not make great computer games.
Ugh, don't do that, as an Australian, hearing other Australians carry on like that is embarrasingly cringeworthy, it reminds me of Australian Neo-Nazis who just love saying that stuff while they're bashing asians.Dylan Bonnett said:
Oh look, a thread about Australia that turns into an Anti-US thread... What a surprise!
I would actually like to play an FPS based somewhat or solely around Australia. I think it would be interesting to see an FPS from the perspective of someone other than an American, Brit, or Russian. I also kind of want to see if someone will finally portray the Steyr AUG A3 (Are you guys using the A3's now? Or still on the A2/A1?) correctly. Hell, I wanted to see Homefront from the perspective of a Korean. However, a game based IN Australia would only be recognizable if they put in something like the Sydney Opera House. A game based AROUND Australia would only be recognizable if they all sounded and acted like Crocodile Dundee. That being said, it's much easier for developers to show that their characters are American, British, or Russian because the stereotypes surrounding them are so common and well-known. Not many people know an Australian stereotype other than the accent. And pretty soon everyone will get tired of the "That's not a knife" line.
I would actually like to play an FPS based somewhat or solely around Australia. I think it would be interesting to see an FPS from the perspective of someone other than an American, Brit, or Russian. I also kind of want to see if someone will finally portray the Steyr AUG A3 (Are you guys using the A3's now? Or still on the A2/A1?) correctly. Hell, I wanted to see Homefront from the perspective of a Korean. However, a game based IN Australia would only be recognizable if they put in something like the Sydney Opera House. A game based AROUND Australia would only be recognizable if they all sounded and acted like Crocodile Dundee. That being said, it's much easier for developers to show that their characters are American, British, or Russian because the stereotypes surrounding them are so common and well-known. Not many people know an Australian stereotype other than the accent. And pretty soon everyone will get tired of the "That's not a knife" line.
I think the biggest problem is how they would structure the battles. Hours upon hours of mindless boredom and then you get gassed and everyone dies. Or more bored staring off to space and suddenly 600 men half a mile away from you get out of the trench and run towards you only to be cut down by the Lewis gun 10 feet away from you. That battle sounds intense, but you can't base a game off of small things like that and hope for it to succeed. Each battle would be around 10 minutes and then everyone dies. Not much fun.Bobbity said:I was exaggerating.Trolldor said:
OT again: I'd actually kind of like to see a video game following Aussie soldiers in WW1. I don't know that anyone would be interested in making it, but our soldiers had a reputation amongst of being violent, unpredictable savages, and it'd be amusing to see that going on in the context of the first World War.
Besides which, why do we never get any games based in that period of time? I know that if it was done in CoD style, the one shot rifles and crappy technology would make it boring as shit, but surely there must be a good way of doing it. I mean, it's not as if the first world war wasn't exciting or anything.
Well, the only thing that comes to mind is a Mad Max shooter. But then again the post-apocalypse setting is being done to death right now, and a mediocre Mad Max shooter wouldn't serve it justice....
The best way I can think of to make an 'Aussie' shooter is the following:
It is 2073, Australia has established itself as the Western power of the Southern Hemisphere through trade and military alliances with the US, Asia and the UK. A successful exporter of yellow cake, mineral ore and wheat combined with intelligent economic policy (all the Aussies on the board may now begin laughing) have brought an increase in population and nationalism and thus, military enlistment.
Relations with Indonesia are at all time low since an huge resurgence of radical Islam through Jemaah Islamiyah; and it all kicks off when RAAF Base Worthington in East Timor is attacked, its personnel executed and equipment stolen by Indonesian Jemaah Islamiyah soldiers, who are staging a coup to take control of the Indonesian archipelago and establish a caliphate.
The government orders immediate retaliation: B-52's from RAAF Base Darwin begin a bombing campaign to soften the area for a ground war: however there would be a few major ways to play:
3rd RAR air dropped into East Timor to help retake the Airbase and establish safe landing for Airforce GDF soldiers via helicopter. FPS, CoD/MoH style
SASR incursions into Indonesian jungle to root out camps and gather intel: 3rd person Splinter Cell style: climb trees, hide in water, under logs etc. Emphasis on stealth and guerrilla warfare.
Naval Clearance Divers engaging in sabotage and mine laying at major ports in enemy territory and a commando raid to take and hold a major East Timor port to allow the Navy to establish a presence and move troops and logistical support forward.
Just a thought.
NB: The RAAF does not have a base in East Timor, this is a made up one named after actor Sam Worthington, nor do our Airforce own B-52 planes.
It is 2073, Australia has established itself as the Western power of the Southern Hemisphere through trade and military alliances with the US, Asia and the UK. A successful exporter of yellow cake, mineral ore and wheat combined with intelligent economic policy (all the Aussies on the board may now begin laughing) have brought an increase in population and nationalism and thus, military enlistment.
Relations with Indonesia are at all time low since an huge resurgence of radical Islam through Jemaah Islamiyah; and it all kicks off when RAAF Base Worthington in East Timor is attacked, its personnel executed and equipment stolen by Indonesian Jemaah Islamiyah soldiers, who are staging a coup to take control of the Indonesian archipelago and establish a caliphate.
The government orders immediate retaliation: B-52's from RAAF Base Darwin begin a bombing campaign to soften the area for a ground war: however there would be a few major ways to play:
3rd RAR air dropped into East Timor to help retake the Airbase and establish safe landing for Airforce GDF soldiers via helicopter. FPS, CoD/MoH style
SASR incursions into Indonesian jungle to root out camps and gather intel: 3rd person Splinter Cell style: climb trees, hide in water, under logs etc. Emphasis on stealth and guerrilla warfare.
Naval Clearance Divers engaging in sabotage and mine laying at major ports in enemy territory and a commando raid to take and hold a major East Timor port to allow the Navy to establish a presence and move troops and logistical support forward.
Just a thought.
NB: The RAAF does not have a base in East Timor, this is a made up one named after actor Sam Worthington, nor do our Airforce own B-52 planes.
The Americian citizens wouldn't stand up for that they'ed over throw the government because of all the enviromental effects infact i think we're more caring arount the enviroment perhaps more than the 80's that aside it would ruin a good portion of the meat industry and the mining industry. even if that didn't hapen the amercain allies woudn't continue thus ending the war in our favour as we would get the sympathy card witch would make Australia look like the good guy and america will be flung of its high horse witch then would make world peace slightly easier because without that one country thinking its more than everyone else finally everyone could possibly be an equal to each other.ryai458 said:
very true good sir and think of the possibilitys this game if done right could tell what brave acts of bravery our countrys instead of what Americains have to tell witch have all heard before (whitch in my mind wasn't that much that i know of). hell if was good enough we could crack open a can of worms that could lead to games having nothing to do with AmericaFalseprophet said:
