After browsing many a gaming forum, it looks like most of the hate is directed torwards the wii, and a lot of the stuff said is about how much the motion controls/graphics/internet/game library sucks (all stuff they knew about before they bought the damn thing.) And I havn't just seen this in the realm of internet douchebags, but in real life too. For example, I lent one of my friends my copy of No More Heros, and he returned it in a few days saying it sucked. That could of just been a matter of personal taste rather then hardware bias, but now this same friend is talking about how exited he is for the No More Heros remake coming to the Xbox 360 in the future. A game that looks close to identical to the origional, doesn't have the motion controls, and will probably cost 3 times as much. I've also had friends ***** about how all the wii games are for kids when I'm playing Madworld in the same room, refuse to by Resident Evil 4 on Wii while owning Resident Evil 5 on Xbox, and complaining about how the Wii's friend codes suck when they don't actually own any games that support online at all. I'm not trying to start a verus thread, saying the Wii is the best console, or saying that the Wii doesn't deserve at least some of its critisism, but does anyone else feel like there might be some kind of stigma attatched to the Wii that goes beyond just not liking minigames, or is it just me thinking this?