Poll: Would you date a transgendered person?

[GraveeKing]

-insert refrence to snipping in this thread of all places... lolol-

The reason i said breathing was because many trans people (I personally know) would rather be dead than not "finish" their transition. I understand what you are saying though, and you put it in better terms.

Although I have to be a little more neutral on this... it's not so much a -need- as it is, they'd be very deppressed without it - I'm sure people have lived with it in the past and not got it done... Just depends on the will of the person and how srtong the need is for that individual. Still, some of the stronger willed ones can be... off-putting. I can see why not everybody feels comfortable dating them.

Oh and thanks for going to the trouble of hunting down my reply to be friendly!
I saw the reply to this and was actually quite worried on the reply - you've given me faith in humanity for a day! Fine job sir.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

No. Im heterosexual. I think transgendered people do something like the operation to make themselves happy. And thats awesome. It really is. They can expect me to accept it. Its their right and their happyness and ill support them 100%. However i cannot ever view that person as their post op gender. Im happy they can feel happy in themselves. I think their rights should be the same rights as anyone else. I think persecution is unacceptable.

However i dont think you can change ones gender. I feel the same way as if i was born convinced i was a dolphin in a humans body, then had surgery to turn my arms into fins. I wouldnt be a dolphin. Id be happier but i wouldnt be a dolphin. The surgery is cosmetic. It changes nothing but looks. And while i appreciate and respect these people i wont view them as female. And as such ill be friends, best friends and bros but i dont think i can date them. I wouldnt feel comfortable.

You really need to make it less obvious that you are getting your opinions from South Park. There is a big difference between transgendered people and someone wanting to be a dolphin, as there actual physical brain tends to be the gender they say they are. You cant be born with a brain incompatible with your body, but you can't be born with a dolphin brain.

Still as far as the subject of dating goes, sexual attraction is physical, and the physical body can't achieve perfect gender transformation, not yet anyway. As long as there is social respect (i.e. proper pronouns and such) not being attracted to what could be considered a physical defect, isn't really an issue of tolerance. Sexual attraction is something you can't change after all. I know you understand that, just stop using the dolphin defense. It's a weak argument.

I knew someone would call me out for using an arguement from southpark. However when i read "woman trapped in a mans body" and suchlike it reminds me of furies who honestly want to be animals or feel like animals trapped in a humans body, sure its rare but it happens, and i feel if surgery were done to make them what they wished to be, (again this has happened: see snake man and catman) they wouldnt be that animal. Maybe they dont feel the same way transexuals do. Ill never fully understand because i cant be in their shoes. However i view them as similar. Were the surgery 100% perfect it wouldnt be cosmetic, it would reconstruct 100% the workings and biology (perhaps even the DNA) of that person and at that point i would accept them as female. But that day is a LONG way away. At the moment it just makes you LOOK female. Which is cool, it that rocks your boat power to you. But i cant find that sexually pleasing, i can only respect it, youve said this already in your posts so thank you for understanding this.

Proper pronouns i feel are a small thing to do to make someone happy, so even thought in my head my psycology will see them as male ill call them she or her because its how they want to be seen. And its just polite. Its the same way i dont really buy into the hundreds of sexuality labels, i respect pretty much anything you wanna do and the labels confuse me a little, i dont care what you call it do whatever you want! As such ill use any label im asked to use for a person even if they might not fall under my definition of it. Its hardly a chore. And who doesnt have the right to feel secure in their person?

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

I don't think I could ever look at them and REALLY see any post op as "their new gender". They will always be victims of a mental illness and medical misconduct to me. As such I will treat them with respect and I will be the first to support them in obtaining equal rights and good treatment, but they will never really be their new gender in my mind.

Mental illness,and medical misconduct?! are you serious?! Being trans is NOT a mental illness. When it was first classified, and identified it was because people were ignorant, and didn't understand it. Now, that MUCH more research has been done, it has been classified as a physical "illness" (for lack of a better word. As for medical misconduct... not sure how to take this, i mean so a person who has any sort of plastic surgery would be in the same category then. To me, at it's core, can be "cured" with GRS, sooo that doesn't seem like a mental illness.

and for the record, i would date a trans person, if they were a good person and we got along.

it is an illness, or a disorder/condition.

 

[alandavidson]

I don't know, probably not. But then again, I've never actually met a trans person, so I really don't know how it would play out.

 

[TehCookie]

Transgender, yes. Transsexual, hell no. If you want to act like the opposite gender I have no problem with it, just be yourself. I can like someone for that. Hacking up your bits into some fake mimicry of others is just messed up.

 

[Montezuma's Lawyer]

I am Transgender, I find it extremely offensive that I am found to be repugnant by those who would otherwise find me attractive, simply because I was born male. I understand some people are insecure with their sexuality, but that is no excuse to treat me like some sort of freak, just because you wanted to fuck someone that was once a man.

I am a woman, regardless of what you ignorant bastards tell yourselves.

 

[Ledan]

Nope. In my own opinion he would still be a guy, just a guy who has gone through body modification to make him look like a girl. Since I don't find guys sexually stimulating, I would never date one, even if they looked like a girl.
I wouldn't object to having a friend who is transgender, or object to one of my friends dating a transgender person. Whatever floats your own boat.

 

[Ledan]

I am Transgender, I find it extremely offensive that I am found to be repugnant by those who would otherwise find me attractive, simply because I was born male. I understand some people are insecure with their sexuality, but that is no excuse to treat me like some sort of freak, just because you wanted to fuck someone that was once a man.

I am a woman, regardless of what you ignorant bastards tell yourselves.

Woah! Turn down the hate.... We're allowed to have our own opinions just as much as you are.
In your opinion: you are now a woman (congrats on successfully doing something that makes you happy).
In our opinion: your are a man who looks like a woman.(unless im completely mistaken that you are mtf. If you are ftm then i apologize, but the point still stands).

You are not a freak, but people can choose whether or not to treat you as a woman or a guy. Just like I can modify my body to look like a vampire. You can choose to treat me like a vampire or a human.

 

[Montezuma's Lawyer]

I am Transgender, I find it extremely offensive that I am found to be repugnant by those who would otherwise find me attractive, simply because I was born male. I understand some people are insecure with their sexuality, but that is no excuse to treat me like some sort of freak, just because you wanted to fuck someone that was once a man.

I am a woman, regardless of what you ignorant bastards tell yourselves.

Woah! Turn down the hate.... We're allowed to have our own opinions just as much as you are.
In your opinion: you are now a woman (congrats on successfully doing something that makes you happy).
In our opinion: your are a man who looks like a woman.(unless im completely mistaken that you are mtf. If you are ftm then i apologize, but the point still stands).

You are not a freak, but people can choose whether or not to treat you as a woman or a guy. Just like I can modify my body to look like a vampire. You can choose to treat me like a vampire or a human.

I will still respond to your treatment of me as male, as if I were born female. I honestly dont give a fuck about your own gender bias, but I expect to be treated as a woman. I will treat you as a man, I expect the same respect.

 

[AlexNora]

you know I love online games its the only place where no one trust anyone's gender.

"Is that a girl" said the village idiot "the voice sounds like a girl to me" said apathetic person "no its probably just a twelve year old boy" said the village idiot "yes I'm a girl" said the girl (game ends) "you know that wasn't really a girl" said the village idiot "how do you know?" said apathetic person "because girls dont play halo" said the village idiot....

the girl playing halo probably gets her gender questioned if not strait out denied her every game she plays. yet she keeps playing and is still a girl (apathetic person "me" and girl "girl" became friends)

I feel like everyday I'm playing that game but Im still a girl and im still playing.

girls cant be born in a male body said the village idiot....

ow and i would date a transgender person duh

 

[Arkzism]

i would, but then agian im bi... so /shrug

 

[spartandude]

if i like them why would i care what gender/sex they are?

 

[Cowabungaa]

This is actually incorrect, and the result of a lack of education and awareness on Gender Dysporia and other trans-related conditions.

No need to educate me, I've had biology. Not to mention the fact that I live in Holland. We're cool with transgenders.

I know all about the hormone spiel, but despite that; if a man does a sex change it doesn't change the fact that she started out as a man, still has male genes and doesn't have actual real female reproductive organs, and thus as of yet just can't have children. And my subconscious just isn't attracted to that. Can't help it really.

And those possible stem cell and genetic techniques sound all good, but they don't exist yet so are totally irrelevant to me.

 

[Ledan]

*snip*

I will still respond to your treatment of me as male, as if I were born female. I honestly dont give a fuck about your own gender bias, but I expect to be treated as a woman. I will treat you as a man, I expect the same respect.

Because you look like one? Then I demand to be treated like a vampire if I look like one. You haven't changed the fact that you are male. XY. Just like I havent changed myself from being human.

 

[weker]

but even gay friendly communities do tend to be a transphobic.

...feels a bit like your saying if you don't want to you hate them... not saying you do, just sounds a little bit like it XD
OT: I am not sure, I make friends and develop my relationships from there, I doubt I would heavily as modern surgery is not good enough in that area. I do not warm to the idea of a past sausage having it's between their legs, but I am open to anything, tho I it does not appeal to me.
In short I am open, tho I am not attracted to it XD
Not enough options in the poll really.

 

[SwimmingRock]

Voted Yes/Desperate. Stipulation, is that she's like Erica from Catherine. Where you wouldn't know at first glance. So my friends who don't know her will be like, wow you did well.

http://catherinethegame.wikia.com/wiki/Erica_Anderson

Please use Spoilers. Catherine doesn't come out in the EU until next week (feb 10th). I did not want to know this before actually playing the game.

OT: Yeah, whatever. And I mean that sincerely. Just don't care.

 

[Sleipnir]

I myself am transgendered (FtM and identifying as gay), so it'd be pretty dickish of me not to date another FtM. Regardless, I don't think I'd have an issue with it, since the only real difference would be a strap on, since even if I identified as female, I still remain attracted primarily to men.

 

[Sleipnir]

I knew someone would call me out for using an arguement from southpark. However when i read "woman trapped in a mans body" and suchlike it reminds me of furies who honestly want to be animals or feel like animals trapped in a humans body, sure its rare but it happens, and i feel if surgery were done to make them what they wished to be, (again this has happened: see snake man and catman) they wouldnt be that animal. Maybe they dont feel the same way transexuals do. Ill never fully understand because i cant be in their shoes. However i view them as similar. Were the surgery 100% perfect it wouldnt be cosmetic, it would reconstruct 100% the workings and biology (perhaps even the DNA) of that person and at that point i would accept them as female. But that day is a LONG way away. At the moment it just makes you LOOK female. Which is cool, it that rocks your boat power to you. But i cant find that sexually pleasing, i can only respect it, youve said this already in your posts so thank you for understanding this.

Proper pronouns i feel are a small thing to do to make someone happy, so even thought in my head my psycology will see them as male ill call them she or her because its how they want to be seen. And its just polite. Its the same way i dont really buy into the hundreds of sexuality labels, i respect pretty much anything you wanna do and the labels confuse me a little, i dont care what you call it do whatever you want! As such ill use any label im asked to use for a person even if they might not fall under my definition of it. Its hardly a chore. And who doesnt have the right to feel secure in their person?

Gotta say, the whole "trapped in a woman's body" thing is overused and pretty inaccurate, we're born with the mentality and the gender identity that doesn't strictly align with the body. The biology does get changed, with hormones, sure we're not anatomically accurate on the inside, and that's unfortunate for now, but comparing a transgender person to a "furry" is a bit weird.

Even with homosexuality it's been shown that, for example, a homosexual man will have similar thinking patterns to a heterosexual woman, the way they process information is different to your heterosexual man, because there is a genetic or chemical difference that makes them function that way.

 

[Montezuma's Lawyer]

*snip*

I will still respond to your treatment of me as male, as if I were born female. I honestly dont give a fuck about your own gender bias, but I expect to be treated as a woman. I will treat you as a man, I expect the same respect.

Because you look like one? Then I demand to be treated like a vampire if I look like one. You haven't changed the fact that you are male. XY. Just like I havent changed myself from being human.

No, not because I look female, because I Identify as female, it is part of who I am. You disregarding that is the same as telling a gay person they're straight, you're not changing the truth, but attempting to ignore it.

 

[RachaelIsaacHill]

As a transgendered (bi-gendered to be specific - it's complicated) person myself, I know a lot of other transgender folks, of both sides. Some are quite passable - others not so much. However in the end, I don't think it really matters. Gender, as with sexuality, is not binary as most people think. They are both fluid, and most people are more in the middle than they realize. In the end, you can never sit here and go 'yes' or 'no'... because you honestly can't know. You don't choose who you are attracted to, you don't choose who you love. Love is something that happens, and whether the person you are dating is cis-gendered or trans, all that matters is that you are happy with who you're with.

I always told myself that I would go for a short, dark-haired guy. I've been dating a tall, thin albino (literally) for three years now. You can't predict that stuff.