Poll: Would you join the Space Marines?
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The Space Marine seems fun, until you realize that
a)You will have to live possibly light years away from Earth until you are within even traveling distance of alien civilization
b)Unlike warfare here, the space marine has to carry technology that pretty much makes it a life or death scenario. An alien uses an EMP, then we are fucked.
c)This is a type of army that requires CONSTANT training. They have to be recreated from prepubescence to be able to even accommodate space, let alone be a fighter.
d)Bullets aren't going to work well in a vacuum, and lasers will need an abnormally large concentration to be used as an offensive weapon, rather than a blinding weapon.
a)You will have to live possibly light years away from Earth until you are within even traveling distance of alien civilization
b)Unlike warfare here, the space marine has to carry technology that pretty much makes it a life or death scenario. An alien uses an EMP, then we are fucked.
c)This is a type of army that requires CONSTANT training. They have to be recreated from prepubescence to be able to even accommodate space, let alone be a fighter.
d)Bullets aren't going to work well in a vacuum, and lasers will need an abnormally large concentration to be used as an offensive weapon, rather than a blinding weapon.
No. Absolutely not. God, no. You don't want to be a part of -any- Warhammer 40k faction. Jesus Christ.
The Marines are damned to live a life of constant warfare, prayer, and training, with like, 15 minutes of personal time a day, The Imperial Guard are cannon fodder, the Inquisition have a burden on their shoulders that makes the Presidency seem about as stressful as being a dishwasher. The Eldar are cruel, merciless, callous monsters that regularly rewrite their own personalities and are at a constant risk of being devoured by a Dark God and those are the GOOD ones, the Tau are controlled by mind controlling fascists and have a habit of sterilizing populations and God knows what else, the Dark Eldar are basically Eldar but a thousand times more horrific, Chaos you'll be devoured inevitably, Tyranids aren't even sentient, Necrons barely have souls anymore...
Seriously. No. No.
No.
The Marines are damned to live a life of constant warfare, prayer, and training, with like, 15 minutes of personal time a day, The Imperial Guard are cannon fodder, the Inquisition have a burden on their shoulders that makes the Presidency seem about as stressful as being a dishwasher. The Eldar are cruel, merciless, callous monsters that regularly rewrite their own personalities and are at a constant risk of being devoured by a Dark God and those are the GOOD ones, the Tau are controlled by mind controlling fascists and have a habit of sterilizing populations and God knows what else, the Dark Eldar are basically Eldar but a thousand times more horrific, Chaos you'll be devoured inevitably, Tyranids aren't even sentient, Necrons barely have souls anymore...
Seriously. No. No.
No.
OI! Wat 'bout DA ORKZ! Wat a grot to forgot da best dar iz. We da meaniz dar iz! WAAAAAAAAAGGGH!PrinceOfShapeir said:
True but if u are a civie in any imperial world you either have indentured labour in a manufactorum which are deathtraps or being concripted as cannon fodder for the imperial gaurd. In the inquisition you will live more luxurious its not an easy life but a better quality one.
Except you won't feel much of that joy since all Necrons are automatons without emotion or feeling. Even Necron Lords are only slaves to the C'tan, with no real will of their own. Being for all intents and purposes immortal isn't all that great when you're a mindless drone.FalloutJack said:
Sure, if you don't mind being arbitrarily indoctrinated, sterilized and used as cannon fodder. And that's assuming you get the chance to join them. Anything not useful for the Greater Good gets eliminated. Which will probably still happen as soon as you outlive your usefulness.Warboss Robgutz said:
But hey, at least you get fed.
The Tau aren't much better than the other factions. They just appear to be. There is no good, or even decent, in 40K. I would guess the Ultramarines realm of Ultramar is actually about the closest to a decent place to live, barring the occasional Tyranid invasions.
So basically the underlying theft of plot that Bungie stole when making Halo's Spartans but more atrocious and de-humanizing.Hal10k said:
Its funny I show this plotline/history to Halo fans and show them the copyright date of my first Warhammer 40k book (from the mid 90's) and they still think Halo didn't blatantly jack the plot.
I don't even like the Spartants and find earth in the halo univers evil.
That said I'd rather join the inqusition.
Are there even any perks to being a space marines besides all the murder you could ever want. Just seem like fighting tell I'm kill would suck.
That said I'd rather join the inqusition.
Are there even any perks to being a space marines besides all the murder you could ever want. Just seem like fighting tell I'm kill would suck.
The Adeptus Astartes aren't brainwashed at all, hence the forces of chaos.
if you read the horus heresy books you realise that they are all men that live for combat, some decided that siding with the chaos gods would make them better in combat, also they turned because horus believed that the emperor was trying to make himself into a god, when he was trying to create a warpway gate system, so they didnt have to travel through to void.
The emperor was just a massively powerful psyker who eventually turned into a kind of demigod because he was attached to the golden throne, The emperor was actually an athiest, made into a godhead by the people and by the heresy.
I would gladly become an astartes, it would be liberating to be free of libido, also there is no situation in which the aliens of the 40k universe could ever be allies, even the eldar.
Living for hundreds of years and knowing only battle, glory or death, sounds good to me.
Technically I don't take the emperor worship as religion because he actually exists and his powers actually exists so its a personality cult technically.
The case in the first few horus heresy books of a woman using her faith in the emperor to kill a demon, channeling the emperors psyker powers perhaps? it's not faith if it's technically science.
that was the nerdiest thing I've ever written and I feel kind of ashamed.
if you read the horus heresy books you realise that they are all men that live for combat, some decided that siding with the chaos gods would make them better in combat, also they turned because horus believed that the emperor was trying to make himself into a god, when he was trying to create a warpway gate system, so they didnt have to travel through to void.
The emperor was just a massively powerful psyker who eventually turned into a kind of demigod because he was attached to the golden throne, The emperor was actually an athiest, made into a godhead by the people and by the heresy.
I would gladly become an astartes, it would be liberating to be free of libido, also there is no situation in which the aliens of the 40k universe could ever be allies, even the eldar.
Living for hundreds of years and knowing only battle, glory or death, sounds good to me.
Technically I don't take the emperor worship as religion because he actually exists and his powers actually exists so its a personality cult technically.
The case in the first few horus heresy books of a woman using her faith in the emperor to kill a demon, channeling the emperors psyker powers perhaps? it's not faith if it's technically science.
that was the nerdiest thing I've ever written and I feel kind of ashamed.
For me, I rather be a Tech Priest of Mars. Becoming more machine and having extra servo arms that possible holds extra weapons and you get a cool looking ax to hold (At least from what I seen from DoW 1.)
The fact that you're sometimes KEPT AWAKE TO HAVE SQUISHY THINGS SHOVED INTO YOU VIA A HOLE IN YOUR CHEST in order to become a space marine is not something that often appears on the recruiting posters. This is assuming that I've survived a dozen different trials specificaly designed to kill me.
Even if I have the great honour of surviving these trials, I still have better odds of dying on the operating table because, as most of us know, shoving odd squishy things into a human chest isn't a good idea.
And if I've survived to this point and become one of the Emperor's angels of death, I need to repeatedly launch myself into the geographical equivilant of Satan and fight guys who look like this on (at least) a fortnightly basis:
Oh and the retirment benefits kind of suck...
Even if I have the great honour of surviving these trials, I still have better odds of dying on the operating table because, as most of us know, shoving odd squishy things into a human chest isn't a good idea.
And if I've survived to this point and become one of the Emperor's angels of death, I need to repeatedly launch myself into the geographical equivilant of Satan and fight guys who look like this on (at least) a fortnightly basis:
Oh and the retirment benefits kind of suck...
With the understanding that I would make the cut and being human was my only option?
Yeah, I'd join in a heartbeat in the 40k universe. It's a far better life than some random soldier in the Imperial Guard or living on a Hive World. I'd probably end up joining Chaos if I had the option, though.
Yeah, I'd join in a heartbeat in the 40k universe. It's a far better life than some random soldier in the Imperial Guard or living on a Hive World. I'd probably end up joining Chaos if I had the option, though.
I reckon that, as an Imperial Guard player, I should join the Guard instead.
I wouldn't want to or anything, God no. I just think I deserve it for routinely sending scores of men to their deaths during even the most minor skirmish.
I wouldn't want to or anything, God no. I just think I deserve it for routinely sending scores of men to their deaths during even the most minor skirmish.