Poll: Would you kill a man?

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fulano

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BlackIronGuardian said:
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BlackIronGuardian said:
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No. I'm as bad as he is if I kill him. The moral high ground doesn't keep you alive, but it does keep you satisfied.
Ahem...how, exactly, does it keep you satisfied if you're dead?
My thetan level is over 9000, trust me, it keeps you satisfied.
Actually, that's quite wrong. You're supposed to get "clear" of thetans to be truly satisfied and that's the whole point with... ...oh, I see what you did there...

Hail Xenu anyway, no matter what Tom says. I'm not being "glib."
Yeah, ye see, I was trying to be...tryin to...oh dear...
Chill, I don't really believe the universe is over a trillion years or that there are spaceships that look exactly like actual planes.

Crimsane said:
I've actually had something similar happen and can give an honest answer. I woke early one morning to the sounds of shattering glass. Instinct took over from here, as my heart started pounding and I fumbled for my dresser for the handgun I keep there. I opened my door and stuck my head out to look, and that's when I had the luckiest moment in my life. A bullet lodges in the doorframe a couple inches from my head. I aimed and quickly put two rounds into the intruder's chest. There was no thinking, no real "I'm gonna die I'd better shoot" or anything like that, just pure instinct and fear.

I called 911, and by the time the paramedics arrived, the man was gone. There's no duty to retreat clause here in NC, so I only had to answer some questions from the police before I was free to go. Still haunted by that night sometimes. I'd advise to retreat or disarm the person if possible, because once you take someone's life, it stays with you forever. Even if it was the "right" thing to do.
That's quite intense, right there. My dad once told me my granddad was this close to shooting a guy in the chest with a revolver because he wouldn't back away(long, weird story), and he never forgot about it(hence why I know about this, in retrospect).

So, yeah, shooting someone ain't no cakewalk however one slices it. Hope you're doing fine.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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I'd defend myself if I had to, but a bullet in someone's chest doesn't just drop them like in the movies. If I just shot the guy, there's no guaranteeing I'd live. But that's not what the questions about.

If you die, you no longer exist and can't do anything. Rule number one is make sure you don't get killed, because otherwise your capable of no further virtue.
 

AngloDoom

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Not sure. Practically, I would, but there's never a "kill or be killed" lockdown option, there's always alternatives. If I had to choose out of the poll above, however, 'Not Sure' will do. I've no idea if I could kill a man, I'd probably do it once survival-instinct set in, or by accident when panicking and trying to make him stop, but not sure I could pick up a random household object and hit someone with intent to kill.
 

Adam

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Id kill the man because my life is more important than anyone elses, from my perspective anyway. Im not going to sacrafice myself for anyone because I love life way too much...so basicly yea, that motherlicker is gonna die
 

Wafflestomper99

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I agree with the "Not on purpose, but if it happens, it happens and I'll make peace with it" statements. I would never intentionally take a man's life, but if during the process of disarming and / or debilitating them I accidentally did, then yes, it happens. I would feel less guilty if it was to protect my family as well. But I would take no pleasure in it.
 

J8keM0ney

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This thread just brought to mind a quote from Serenity ala Jayne: "I'll kill a man in a fair fight, or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight, or if there's a woman involved, or if I'm gettin paid. Mostly only when I'm gettin paid" I know thats not really helpfull but hey. Anyways, I'd like to believe I'd defend myself but as its been said already you never really know till you are in that situation and I'd rather just not experience it.
 

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While I voted yes (I've been so pissed before I nearly killed one of my mates, it would only take someone to really piss me off for me to kill them) I found an interesting statistic once, although I'm not actually sure one the credibility of it.
It stated this: only about 1% of civilians are prepared to kill, and only about 25% of rookie soldiers as well.
People may say that they are prepared to kill, and I don't doubt that some of them would, but you can't know unless you've been there.
 

ViolentlyHappy91

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I'd shoot a man in Reno, just to watch him die [/failed meme]

Ummmm....if all else failed, yes, but I'd deeply hate myself for it.
 

mark0217

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Oh yes. He would die faster than my conscience kicking in. I have loved ones to care for!
 

Embright

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What a circumstantial question.

If this is self defense because this muscle-bound thug, stereotypical I know, talks to Satan and wants to paint my face with his crowbar than I'd probably unload my Colt .45 ACP into him.

If he is a 16 year old skinny punk with a baseball bat who talks to emo-Satan and is jacked up on coke I'd probably would be able to disarm and pin him until the police arrived.
 

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XxNoMercyxX said:
The only way you can live is to kill him.
No, the only way to live is to get the man unconscious and wait for the police. I never like these options. It's like the question to a vegetarian: "If you do not eat this chicken I will kill 10 more." I would not eat the chicken and I would make damn sure that man didn't kill 10 more. I never think inside the box and my hands are never tied.
 

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JWAN said:
only for a Klondike bar
Damnit! Beat me too it!

I recently found out that in my rather right-leaning home state of Indiana, I'm fully within my rights to shoot dead anyone who enters my house with the intent to harm me or my family. While I'm not sure if I would, I legally could.
 

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Motti said:
While I voted yes (I've been so pissed before I nearly killed one of my mates, it would only take someone to really piss me off for me to kill them) I found an interesting statistic once, although I'm not actually sure one the credibility of it.
It stated this: only about 1% of civilians are prepared to kill, and only about 25% of rookie soldiers as well.
People may say that they are prepared to kill, and I don't doubt that some of them would, but you can't know unless you've been there.
At least I know I'm that one percent thankfully every situation that I was in like that deescalated. Though I still feel I should have pumped some rounds into that punk who ran away because I came out the front door with an SKS assault rifle after I heard him trying to break into the bathroom window. Bastard probably shat himself though it would have been hard to explain to police why I wasted a guy in the middle of a neighborhood while impersonating Dirty Harry. Oh well I figure if my Grandma could almost kill a guy doing something similar I have to do the same for the gene pool.
 

BakaSmurf

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Well, I almost beat one of my classmates into a coma in self-defense before, so in the heat of the moment I wouldn't doubt I'd be able to kill someone to protect my own life.
 

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First, I would spend a few seconds wondering how it is he figured out where I live. Secondly, it would depend on what kind of gun he had. I mean that pretty much gives him the advantage; unless hes drunk. However, to answer the question, I would stab him w/ a knife. He would drop the weapon; then I would tie said person up.