Poll: Would You Kill Baby Hitler?
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look, they did a twilight zone episode on this! the lady they send dies during the assassination (which becomes a kidnapping because she cant kill a baby.) but one of the maids, not wanting to go back to daddy hitler and tell him the bad news... bought a baby off a gypsy and the dad did not know the diffrence, and called the baby hitler...DO YOU GET IT NOW?
No, because of the time travel paradox. If I went back in time to kill him, not only would I then not be born in all likelihood, but I wouldn't be able to go back in time to kill him later on, if he didn't do all the bad stuff he did. If that makes any sense. Sorry, that was a shit explanation.
You could just pop up every birthday like "Hi guys, I bought Adolf a painting set, he's gonna be brilliant, don't forget to tell him that a lot!"Generic Gamer said:
Morally you can't punish someone for something they are destined to do, you have to wait for them to actually commit a crime, even if its only in the conspiracy or intent stage...
Besides, no matter how bad the second world war was I couldn't go back in time and avert it without affecting my existence. My maternal grandfather and grandmother met on a military base during the second world war, without the war they never would of met.
Besides, no matter how bad the second world war was I couldn't go back in time and avert it without affecting my existence. My maternal grandfather and grandmother met on a military base during the second world war, without the war they never would of met.
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Most of this topic was tl;dr but here's what I would do.
1. If I could only choose between kill him or not, from a moral perspective, without any kind of excistence fuckups or anything. I would kill him. I would totally feel like a bastard for killing a baby. But then I would also feel pretty bad for letting about 60 million people die in the war.
2. Now, if we do it like it should be and count in that some people might not be born ect. I wouldn't even want the time travel powers. And I certainly wouldn't kill Hitler! Yes alot of people died, but I wouldn't wanna change the present. Besides, mankind is corrupt to begin with.
Most of this topic was tl;dr but here's what I would do.
1. If I could only choose between kill him or not, from a moral perspective, without any kind of excistence fuckups or anything. I would kill him. I would totally feel like a bastard for killing a baby. But then I would also feel pretty bad for letting about 60 million people die in the war.
2. Now, if we do it like it should be and count in that some people might not be born ect. I wouldn't even want the time travel powers. And I certainly wouldn't kill Hitler! Yes alot of people died, but I wouldn't wanna change the present. Besides, mankind is corrupt to begin with.
No, I wouldn't kill Baby Hitler. I'd instead wait until he was about in his mid-to-late teens, but I still wouldn't kill him.
Why, you may be asking? Let's travel back in history and learn about how he became what he was shall we? Now, I'm not a history buff by any means so my details might be a bit off if not flat out wrong...
If I recall, the main reason Hitler came under such intense hatred for Jews is because his mother died while the care of one (and yes, I meant to word it like that). But check it out: to my knowledge, Hitler's mother suffered a brain hemorrhage or aneurysm or something of that nature, and the young desperately sought to find a doctor. By the time he did however, the doctor in question just happening to be Jewish, the damage was too extensive and the doctor couldn't really do anything. Longer story abbreviated, Mother Hitler dies, Young Hitler snaps, blames Jews for everything, the Holocaust kicks off, so on and so on, or something like that.
Taking that into consideration (and after cramming as much German into my skull as humanly possible), I'd visit him, maybe even console him. Who knows? Maybe WW2 would never have happened (or at least Germany and perhaps a few other Axis countries wouldn't have been involved). Maybe the world today would be a much simpler place to live. The possibilities are nigh infinite really.
Just saying.
Why, you may be asking? Let's travel back in history and learn about how he became what he was shall we? Now, I'm not a history buff by any means so my details might be a bit off if not flat out wrong...
If I recall, the main reason Hitler came under such intense hatred for Jews is because his mother died while the care of one (and yes, I meant to word it like that). But check it out: to my knowledge, Hitler's mother suffered a brain hemorrhage or aneurysm or something of that nature, and the young desperately sought to find a doctor. By the time he did however, the doctor in question just happening to be Jewish, the damage was too extensive and the doctor couldn't really do anything. Longer story abbreviated, Mother Hitler dies, Young Hitler snaps, blames Jews for everything, the Holocaust kicks off, so on and so on, or something like that.
Taking that into consideration (and after cramming as much German into my skull as humanly possible), I'd visit him, maybe even console him. Who knows? Maybe WW2 would never have happened (or at least Germany and perhaps a few other Axis countries wouldn't have been involved). Maybe the world today would be a much simpler place to live. The possibilities are nigh infinite really.
Just saying.
Most of us (indeed, perhaps all of us) would probably not be born if World War 2 had not occurred. I see no reason to believe that events would be fixed in time just to be convenient to a foolhardy time traveller. Time travelling to do a huge act like that is much more about playing god than creating a clone. It is very unwise to believe that everything would be better if Hitler didn't exist. You cannot actually know that. Random streams of events without the rise of that man could easily lead to worse outcomes.
One example of a worse outcome: atomic war, due to a more competent leader of an equivalent Nazi force without Hitler at the wheel, drawing out the war, and keeping post-war tensions running for longer if the war ends in more of a stalemate. This leader then focuses all resources on catching up to the Allies scientifically and makes their own, better, nuclear weapons. You know what happens next. One fires, and everyone does in return. Or in table RPG terms: "rocks fall, everybody dies."
Here's another interesting thought. If, as in this hypothetical situation, time travelling were already possible, it could easily be covered up by the fact that travellers keep nullifying their own existence by mistake. It's not considered physically possible right now, of course, but there's a scary possibility for when humanity thinks it's getting closer to that capability (I'm sure it was "impossible" to play music on a tiny box in the Middle Ages, too, let alone play video games or movies).
One example of a worse outcome: atomic war, due to a more competent leader of an equivalent Nazi force without Hitler at the wheel, drawing out the war, and keeping post-war tensions running for longer if the war ends in more of a stalemate. This leader then focuses all resources on catching up to the Allies scientifically and makes their own, better, nuclear weapons. You know what happens next. One fires, and everyone does in return. Or in table RPG terms: "rocks fall, everybody dies."
Here's another interesting thought. If, as in this hypothetical situation, time travelling were already possible, it could easily be covered up by the fact that travellers keep nullifying their own existence by mistake. It's not considered physically possible right now, of course, but there's a scary possibility for when humanity thinks it's getting closer to that capability (I'm sure it was "impossible" to play music on a tiny box in the Middle Ages, too, let alone play video games or movies).
No, I'd leave history alone the way it went. Could easily go worse that it went before, and that's all in the past now anyway. We got to where we are from what happened then. At least back then there was a real bad guy that could be identified for everyone to unite against. Since then wars have just been a way for those in power to manipulate things and ensure they remain in power.
Those Who Ignore History Are Bound To Repeat It
Everything happens for a purpose....not sure the purpose of Hitler was...but something more sinister always takes over...
Everything happens for a purpose....not sure the purpose of Hitler was...but something more sinister always takes over...