Poll: Would you play Deus Ex Human Revolution if it started Adriana Jensen instead of Adam Jensen?
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Not to start up a debate, but I've gotta say: That's not exactly a strong female protagonist. Gripe all you want about it, but there are very distinct differences in just about every major aspect of characterization between the sexes. You can't just rip off a man's penis and call him a woman, or vice versa; not if you want a good character to result.Shadowstar38 said:
That's not a completeely terrible place to start, if you're utterly incapable of creating a female character from scratch, but it's definitely not a good place either.
Like it or not, there are differences between the sexes, and ignoring those doesn't help anyone.
Deus Ex HR is a game where character gender doesn't matter. To be honest, I can only think of one game series where the main character has to be a dude: Batman. Because Batwoman is her own character.
Fuck, wait... Okay, any male hero where there is a corresponding female hero with the same name but with woman after it has to be a male one so the female gets her own game..... Oh fuck this shit, gender doesn't matter.
Fuck, wait... Okay, any male hero where there is a corresponding female hero with the same name but with woman after it has to be a male one so the female gets her own game..... Oh fuck this shit, gender doesn't matter.
Since the "Adam" name is supposed to be symbolic as the father of an entire new "generation", the name should be Eva and not Adriana.Powerman88 said:
Just change it to Eva/Eve, both Adam and Eva/Eve made a new race/generation so both names applies. The JC was for Denton not for Adam.Moth_Monk said:
Aside from the voice, I didnt get the feeling that anything about Adam was overly masculine. In this instant it's easy to pull off.Agayek said:
And I prefer this approach to the designer having female traits in their head, then ending up with Beyonetta without the satire.
Adam Jenson had no personality or character development and it was a major flaw in the game. Giving him a pair of tits would not improve his 2 dimensional character. And by the way, I do not think that the path to a well developed female character is to simply make a male one then switch his appearance.
The truth is there are differences between men and women, creating a female character devoid of all feminine aspects and characteristics only serves to make the character seem plastic and boring.
The truth is there are differences between men and women, creating a female character devoid of all feminine aspects and characteristics only serves to make the character seem plastic and boring.
It wouldn't bother me really, but I wouldn't be excited by the prospect of it. However, it would be hard for her to live up to Adam Jensen. He did a good job of taking after his predecessor/successor (I don't know, prequels screw up timelines) JC by being extremely awesome and at the same time a total dick. With a really cool voice.
I played as a chick in Invisible War, mainly because I didn't want to have to look at the male Alex's stupid haircut for the entire game. It really didn't improve anything about IW, though.
Also, did anyone actually care about the goofy Megan subplot?
I played as a chick in Invisible War, mainly because I didn't want to have to look at the male Alex's stupid haircut for the entire game. It really didn't improve anything about IW, though.
Also, did anyone actually care about the goofy Megan subplot?
Eh, a lot of the character defining moments in the game are (relatively) masculine. If nothing else, the primary motivation of Adam in the plot is a widely considered masculine trait; specifically, the need to make up/get revenge for failure.Shadowstar38 said:
Not to say that women can't do that, just that it's generally more of a male thing.
This I absolutely agree with. Like I said, that approach isn't terrible, but if you're going to make a female character, you may as well do it right. The primary difference isn't even in actions or desires, to be perfectly honest, but in motivations and reactions. Once you've got those hammered out, most of the rest is pretty interchangeable.Shadowstar38 said:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution was an awesome game for a lot of reasons, but the fact that the protagonist had a dick isn't really one of them. Honestly, I don't care if it's Adam or Adriana, so long as the gameplay is solid and the story is compelling.
I would probably play at least one good-quality RPG driven by character development and narrative development that is centered around a female protagonist, but if my waning interest in female action heroes is anything to go by I don't think I could be part of an audience that sustains a trend.
I haven't even bothered to watch an Underworld or a Resident Evil movie for quite some time, and frankly I'm more than a little perturbed by the fact that the last memorable female action heroine I saw on screen was Helen Mirren in the Bruce Willis vehicle Red [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_%282010_film%29].
Her performance in that movie was like a breath of fresh air.
I haven't even bothered to watch an Underworld or a Resident Evil movie for quite some time, and frankly I'm more than a little perturbed by the fact that the last memorable female action heroine I saw on screen was Helen Mirren in the Bruce Willis vehicle Red [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_%282010_film%29].
Her performance in that movie was like a breath of fresh air.