Iron Mal said:
I don't know where you're getting a problem with consistancy from but I'll try my best to offer a response to your counter-arguements.
Well, your first point was two sentences that didn't mesh together at all. To me, that is inconsistent.
Iron Mal said:
Have you ever tried searching 'gamer girl' on a Google image search (hell, even moderate safesearch and of the pictures were of attractive young women in their underwear with xbox remotes and chronic cases of duckface (also of note is trying a websearch under the same thing mostly came up with communities for hot gamer girls and even a modelling and social community).
I'd say that's fairly conclusive evidence that it's a huge part of the stereotype (if not the main focus of it).
That was never the stereotype, and no that isn't conclusive evidence. If you look up "nerd girls" on google, you'll get pictures of hot women. What does this tell us? Type in any variation of girl, and you'll find hot pictures.
But here is an entry form the Urban Dictionary:
"A female that is unattractive, that plays video games because she is frankly a loser. usually the girl gamer will get crap from guys about being a girl gamer and just whine about it.
Jimmy: Hey hotty, watchya up to?
Cool girl: I'm chilling at the mall.
Jimmy: Hey, Gamer Girl, what are you up to?
Loser Gamer Girl: Im gonna go play Call of Duty and tell guys over the online game server that im hot because they cant actually see the ugly truth of what i really look like.
Jimmy; okay "Gamer Girl" don't forget to stack up on donuts ya fat b!t*h."
Not conclusive evidence, as it also has the definition you described (Well not entirely, as it doesn't mention girls playing with themselves with controllers, that was just weird dude).
Iron Mal said:
Calm down, take your time and breathe slowly.
It was calm? Memes and all at that jazz.
Iron Mal said:
I understand this is hard for you but you need to keep calm and stay with me here, you might actually be wrong about something.
Not about this I'm not lol.
Iron Mal said:
Porn was just made for the sexual gratification of the people who watch it, there are quite a few couples out there who watch porn together as part of a healthy sexual relationship and it isn't at all uncommon for guys (and girls) in relationships to watch porn so again I think you might be somewhat misinformed here.
Well it was sarcasm, so I'll do srs now. Yes, porn was made for the sexual gratification of people. And the the whole topless gaming thing was made for the sexual gratification of people as well. I like topless women, and I like games, this is a good idea to me.
Iron Mal said:
Sorry, but the facts are on my side here.
Not really; if anything you're helping prove my point.
Iron Mal said:
That is true but most of the other times that video games and sex have been combined the end result has been terrible (need I mention BMXXX or the vast library of porn games for the Atari 2600?) so you're not really making a very strong case for youself here.
Well except these aren't porn
games, these are pornstars
playing games. Topless. I enjoy women playing games naked, it is a nice thing to watch, and I enjoy myself to it.
Iron Mal said:
Considering how so far from what I've seen you've been misinformed or arguably wrong on most of the things you criticized me for I think I have more of a point than you
Well two things:
1. You should also check your facts, as you were also misinformed.
2. If you go back and read your post, you'll realize that you didn't really say anything, other than saying very strange things.
Iron Mal said:
and have done a better job of expressing my argument than you have
No you haven't, as you haven't explained anything. You just says it gives gamer girls a bad rep. Which I said no, as porn doesn't give regular (and I don't mean they are two different entities) women a bad rep, so it wouldn't do anything at all to hurt them. Sex and sexual actives are beautiful things, and trying to say "they don't belong in certain areas" or "Being sexual gives you a bad rep" is more harmful than anything, as you repress not only are natural desires, but trying to get rid of something fun for really no good reason.
Iron Mal said:
(and the words 'freak' and 'weirdo' were really offensive? I'd hate to imagine your response if I was to label someone a '************' or to call something 'bullshit').
That isn't offensive to you? Trying going up to someone and call them a "freak" or "weirdo". I'm sure they won't get offended.
Iron Mal said:
Do you mean exploitative by any chance? Anyway, I have no opposition to porn or the people who watch it (again, what people do in their own free time is none of my concern)
So then this really shouldn't concern you.
Iron Mal said:
but it must be realized that the unfortunate implications behind this
Watching sexy women play video games naked. Doesn't seem that bad at all.
Iron Mal said:
(and the tragically successful 'hire a gamer girl for a date' website that was announced on here a while ago)
So a gaming escort. Again, what is wrong with that? If a guy wants to pay a girl to play games with him (and possibly other things in between and/or after) that is up to them.
Iron Mal said:
and what it says about gamers and gamer culture (remember, we still aren't exactly held in high regard by everyone)
By everyone, I assume you mean some politicians, extremist groups and possibly people over 80?
Iron Mal said:
is more likely than not going to be far from what you would call 'flattering' (hell we've already had stuff like Mass Effect coming under fire for having 'the most realistic sex acts ever conceived'
Has these accusations actually had an effect on how games are made, express themselves? I believe ME 3 will still have sex (or implied I don't really remember) in it.
Iron Mal said:
so what do you think having literal gamer porn would do to our reputation?).
Nothing. If anything, it would help. People like porn. They see gamer porn. They play some games hoping to see naked women. They find out they enjoy the game even without the naked women. New gamer is made.
Plus it does sound hot.
Iron Mal said:
You could have phrased that better seeing as I have no idea what the hell you mean by that.
I could have, my fault. But the same way porn is being recognized as "good" rather than "bad", I see this going very well.
Iron Mal said:
And while porn is a common occurance in our society and is largely accepted it isn't exactly what you'd call a staple of everyday life, it is still a somewhat private thing and not exactly something that most people are proud of if they watch it a lot.
Well true, most people do in fact watch it, regardless if they admit it or not. So, it is a main staple of society.
Iron Mal said:
I've been consistant and I'd say my point is a pretty good one. Your response?
I'm going to say no and not really.
