PROOF: New 360 = Will Never Red Ring

[Danpascooch]

Urge... to go postal... rising!

Seriously, why all the hate for America? Is it because we kicked the United Kingdom's ass when we where still forming a country? Is it because we had nukes and threatened Russia? Is it because we helped in WWII and want some of the credit for the thousands we lost to the Germans and Japanese? Or is it just normal old Xenophobia?

Oh wow! Someone in a massive governing body did something stupid! That totally means we can completely generalize and call that entire country's governing body stupid!


Your last few posts have just been idiotic flamebait.

I am American. I have immediate family tied to the military. You know the guys who fight for this whacky notion called "free speech". I don't hate America, but I sometimes feel people are PC nazis about how to be patriotic. Is wearing a shirt that looks like the american flag patriotic or no? Because some Americans get offended over this as being defamation to the flag. Quaxar had made a joke about silly burauecratic decisions. And someone said "I'm offended, they used the US in their little quip and I am patriotic."

Sorry, but I am not "patriotic" enough to get offended over someone making a joke about US political nonsense. (i.e. pumping maple syrup in soldiers blood so technically they no longer bleed.) I hear them alot in America, imgaine that. Freedom Fries anyone? I have family in the military too and I wasn't offended. I actually giggled because the joke corresponds to this thread. It wasn't even distasteful as it was directly insulting no one. It was aimed at "the man".

Flamebait? Perhaps if you think people aren't allowed to express their opinions, you know like free speech, (something Americans love to claim we have) but a conversation usually always involves conflict. I have just as much involvement as anyone else vcould have as the target of that joke. But I see the soldiers fighting for the ability to make these jokes. Not to keep you from having that right.

Oh god, back to the whole "I have free speech so everything I say is socially acceptable" crap, that's an opinion you should have outgrown back in Elementary School.

Jokes are fine, when they are relevant, and not offending anyone, but I don't appreciate obvious potshots at the United States government as a whole, they are like racist jokes, they are alright when you're with close friends and know they won't be offended, but they are not appropriate on a public forum, especially when you make them out of the blue simply by seeing something stupid, and relating that to the US government. If this thread was about a bill you thought was stupid, your comments would be marginally acceptable, but you took something completely irrelevant and just shouted out of the blue "This is stupid, like the United States Government, HAHAHAHAAREN'TICLEVER!"

I don't care if you have family in the military, or have free speech, because having family in the military doesn't excuse anything you say, nor does waving free speech, because free speech is legal protection, and you're not some sort of patriot for saying ignorant controversial garbage simply because you're legally allowed to. That doesn't make someone a patriot, it makes them an ass. So next time you decide to use your rights to offend people, and then call yourself a patriot for acting like an asshole, remember that those people fighting and dying overseas are NOT fighting for these rights so you can troll online forums while thinking yourself a patriot for it.

If you really have immediate family in the military, than you should be doubly ashamed of offending people and then whoring your free speech rights to excuse your atrocious behavior as if it was no more than a "get out of trolling free" card.

 

[Savagezion]

Haha, the hypocracy in that post! You say I am flamebaiting and that's all I see your last couple posts as.

Oh god, back to the whole "I have free speech so everything I say is socially acceptable" crap, that's an opinion you should have outgrown back in Elementary School.

No it's back the fact that nobody was insulted and no forum rules were broken thus I have free speech.

Jokes are fine, when they are relevant, and not offending anyone, but I don't appreciate obvious potshots at the United States government as a whole, they are like racist jokes, they are alright when you're with close friends and know they won't be offended, but they are not appropriate on a public forum, especially when you make them out of the blue simply by seeing something stupid, and relating that to the US government.

I call Shannanigans. People are too easily offended nowadays. If I had to tip toe around that on the world wide web I would not be allowed to talk. People get offended if you say half-life sucks. So I ain't allowed to say it on here because then I am taking a pot shot at Valve and all their relatives right? Get over yourself. You think its ok to make racist jokes around your friends? lol You are indeed a hypocrit sir. Perhaps even a closet bigot. Are you a polotician in real life or something? Hoo HA! (See what I did there?)

I don't care if you have family in the military, or have free speech, because having family in the military doesn't excuse anything you say, nor does waving free speech, because free speech is legal protection, and you're not some sort of patriot for saying ignorant controversial garbage simply because you're legally allowed to.

You want me to uphold to YOUR moral code. I pointed out those things to stress that I have just as much right to get all worked up over a silly little joke as anyone else but I don't. Questioning your government is the foundation of the same country that is in question here. According to the whole reason it was founded it is ok to poke at it and actually calls it patriotism. All this from the guys that actually died to form the nation and built it from a wrecked colony. Not someone who hangs a flag on flag day.

That doesn't make someone a patriot, it makes them an ass. So next time you decide to use your rights to offend people, and then call yourself a patriot for acting like an asshole, remember that those people fighting and dying overseas are NOT fighting for these rights so you can troll online forums while thinking yourself a patriot for it.

Oh. Well crap. There goes my arguement. Seriously? Do you even know about US history and not just see it as a war record like a basketball game score with casualties? Like do you actually know the beliefs of the founding fathers outside of a high school textbook? It's a bit of a paradox at times, America. Good thing we are the internet, huh? My free speech isn't granted here. It is dictated by the escapist. I was just using it to make a point about US patriotism.

If you really have immediate family in the military, than you should be doubly ashamed of offending people and then whoring your free speech rights to excuse your atrocious behavior as if it was no more than a "get out of trolling free" card.

Ashamed of myself? They would back me up. Not everyone continues to feed quarters into the propaganda machine. We could dive this puppy waaaay deeper, this is a tip. But it ain't worth hijacking a thread as decent as this one any further.

 

[Shru1kan]

That's stupid. Then you don't even really know immediately when your Xbox360 is broken.

Because you can totally play games on it still after it red rings, right? Hell, any error won't let you game, and I'm pretty sure thats a surefire indicator.

 

[Anticitizen_Two]

Wow... clever... of course, there's no way to avoid the new GROD...

 

[Liberaliter]

To bad it still scratches discs

Dont flip it around when the disc is playing. That's hardly an issue.

erm that's not quite true for all of them my xbox 360 scratched 2 discs of mine and i wasn't moving it at all nor was there an earthquake or anything that would justify the fact it trashed 2 of my games by scratching my discs the only thing to blame was itself.

Well I'm going to blame you anyway. I can't believe that the discs were scratched without help.

 

[Kif]

Hardware fails eventually, nothing can be done about that.

However, the particular news worthy problem which hit many machines and cause disks to get scratched was fixed over a year ago when they changed the power supply, the motherboard and the disk drive in the models they were shipping out.

So anyone who has a recent machine apart from unfortunate circumstances/miss use/wear and tear is likely to be just fine.

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

I called this two months ago. I bloody called it!

 

[GonzoGamer]

Let's wait and see if the thing is as likely to spontaneously combust as it's predecessors. If it's insides don't melt anymore, it's not worth getting upset over.
Of course, I'm not buying one until we start hearing about some kind of failure rate. Hopefully it's something reasonable like 3% not 50%.

 

[ohgodalex]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Oh my god. This better be true. I would have no end of respect for MS if they actually pulled that shit on us.

 

[Diligent]

What the fuck?

That's pretty damn underhand.

Is it really anymore underhanded than releasing a cheap computer packed into too little space with heat flow problems and solder points that can come undone, and calling it a next gen console?
...
I'm not bitter about my recent red ring experience at all...

As a disclaimer, in case I get flamed, I am saying this tongue in cheek, and do not hate the 360.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Just wait 'til the US gouvernment hears of this, they'll replace their soldier's blood with maple syrup so no one can bleed to death anymore. Watch out for the immortal Army!

Was that a joke? If so, I'm not laughing.

Ah well, I suppose I could've done better. Twas just a try to transfer the same logic to a completely unrelated subject.
<url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhz9Aa6tDwk>Here, have some beatbox dog to make up for it.

I wasn't saying it wasn't funny, I'm just a little offended by how stupid most of the world thinks the U.S. government is. Yes, we did have Bush for eight years, but that doesn't mean all of our presidents are dumber than dirt, and people do make dumb choices about several things in politics, but so does every other country.

Check this one out.

Let's not talk for to long or they might shut off the internet. XD

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101440-U-S-Government-Proposes-Internet-Kill-Switch

Urge... to go postal... rising!

Seriously, why all the hate for America? Is it because we kicked the United Kingdom's ass when we where still forming a country? Is it because we had nukes and threatened Russia? Is it because we helped in WWII and want some of the credit for the thousands we lost to the Germans and Japanese? Or is it just normal old Xenophobia?

If you'll look back, there never actually was any intent to mock the American government at all. He was trying to transfer the logic to another 'problem', if you will.

But I think you may have answered your own question anyway.

 

[General BrEeZy]

well i cant say anything that hasn't already been said, so...
someone stole my swimsuit. wtf really, a f**king SWIMSUIT??? what did that accomplish?????? are you really that poor? i mean, come on! conditions in my state aren't THAT bad. go to school so you can get a job so you can get a teeny bit of money to buy your own.
cockbite.

but yeah, i dig the look of the console, i might buy it for the built in wifi and huge storage capacity.

 

[Danpascooch]

Haha, the hypocracy in that post! You say I am flamebaiting and that's all I see your last couple posts as.

Oh god, back to the whole "I have free speech so everything I say is socially acceptable" crap, that's an opinion you should have outgrown back in Elementary School.

No it's back the fact that nobody was insulted and no forum rules were broken thus I have free speech.

Jokes are fine, when they are relevant, and not offending anyone, but I don't appreciate obvious potshots at the United States government as a whole, they are like racist jokes, they are alright when you're with close friends and know they won't be offended, but they are not appropriate on a public forum, especially when you make them out of the blue simply by seeing something stupid, and relating that to the US government.

I call Shannanigans. People are too easily offended nowadays. If I had to tip toe around that on the world wide web I would not be allowed to talk. People get offended if you say half-life sucks. So I ain't allowed to say it on here because then I am taking a pot shot at Valve and all their relatives right? Get over yourself. You think its ok to make racist jokes around your friends? lol You are indeed a hypocrit sir. Perhaps even a closet bigot. Are you a polotician in real life or something? Hoo HA! (See what I did there?)

I don't care if you have family in the military, or have free speech, because having family in the military doesn't excuse anything you say, nor does waving free speech, because free speech is legal protection, and you're not some sort of patriot for saying ignorant controversial garbage simply because you're legally allowed to.

You want me to uphold to YOUR moral code. I pointed out those things to stress that I have just as much right to get all worked up over a silly little joke as anyone else but I don't. Questioning your government is the foundation of the same country that is in question here. According to the whole reason it was founded it is ok to poke at it and actually calls it patriotism. All this from the guys that actually died to form the nation and built it from a wrecked colony. Not someone who hangs a flag on flag day.

That doesn't make someone a patriot, it makes them an ass. So next time you decide to use your rights to offend people, and then call yourself a patriot for acting like an asshole, remember that those people fighting and dying overseas are NOT fighting for these rights so you can troll online forums while thinking yourself a patriot for it.

Oh. Well crap. There goes my arguement. Seriously? Do you even know about US history and not just see it as a war record like a basketball game score with casualties? Like do you actually know the beliefs of the founding fathers outside of a high school textbook? It's a bit of a paradox at times, America. Good thing we are the internet, huh? My free speech isn't granted here. It is dictated by the escapist. I was just using it to make a point about US patriotism.

If you really have immediate family in the military, than you should be doubly ashamed of offending people and then whoring your free speech rights to excuse your atrocious behavior as if it was no more than a "get out of trolling free" card.

Ashamed of myself? They would back me up. Not everyone continues to feed quarters into the propaganda machine. We could dive this puppy waaaay deeper, this is a tip. But it ain't worth hijacking a thread as decent as this one any further.

Ooo wow, you're such a rebel!

So let me get this straight, you think the founding fathers did write free speech into the constitution for the purpose of trolling forums? Basically everything you say after that is invalid, because it's clear you favor arguments that are certifiably insane.

My point is that whether you not you have free speech is irrelevant to the fact that you were an asshole and offended people, free speech makes what you said legal, but it doesn't make it socially acceptable or morally correct. The fact that you wave free speech around as if it makes anything you say polite and ethical just proves to me that in your rush to "rage against the propaganda" you forgot the difference between legal rights and manners, it's an immature attitude to whore out our most important legal rights for the purpose of baseless insulting the government that gave them to you.

I'm all for questioning the government, in a relevant discussion with coherent and constructive points, it keeps the government relevant and in synchronization with the needs of the people, but you took a thread that has nothing to do with the government, and just made a downright idiotic non constructive insult out of the blue, don't pretend you have the moral high ground by "questioning authority" because that wasn't questioning authority, it was being an immature ass.

I would think you would be a little more thankful for what your country provides you, instead of patting yourself on the back for being a patriot while slinging idiotic groundless insults for no reason.

A joke is fine, where it is relevant, but if it offends someone, you should explain it's a joke, and apologize for the offense, rather than trying to justify it by kissing your own ass and basically calling yourself an American hero for being an immature little punk.

 

[Savagezion]

Alright I thought I would end it with my last post so I will make this one my last one instead. Mostly, because you seem to be tabloiding me and I am actaully can't seem to tell if you are purposefully dodging my point or not. SO now, I will just put it out there in black and white since that is obviously how you see things.

First, I didn't bash the US government for the sake of bashing it. Reread what you are arguing to quit spewing junk out if you have to. Relook at what you are defending here.

A joke is fine, where it is relevant, but if it offends someone, you should explain it's a joke, and apologize for the offense, rather than trying to justify it by kissing your own ass and basically calling yourself an American hero for being an immature little punk.

I wasn't saying it wasn't funny, I'm just a little offended by how stupid most of the world thinks the U.S. government is. Yes, we did have Bush for eight years, but that doesn't mean all of our presidents are dumber than dirt, and people do make dumb choices about several things in politics, but so does every other country.

Check this one out.

Let's not talk for to long or they might <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/101440-U-S-Government-Proposes-Internet-Kill-Switch> shut off the internet. XD

I said "check this one out" because it was exactly what CloggedDonkey was talking about. Thus it was relevant. People do make dumb choices in polotics. There I have explained it. I didn't think it needed that kind of explaining behind it though as I must have taken people's intelligence for granted. I am not going to apologize to for it. Morality is a thing we are still trying to define today and have been working on it since pre-medieval times. Philosophy is not the same thing as bills and laws.
People get offended way to easy today because being offended allows you to sit on a high horse of sorts. (At least, in American culture anyways)People love to be victom here. However, there is this thing called tough love. I doubt you will grasp what I am talking here about because you seem to see only what you want to see. So I will put it this way. You don't like what I am saying, "Tough. Deal with it." I ain't spouting being a hero. I am explaining I have the right to take news about a government decision and say "look, I think this is stupid" and not have to apologize to anyone for it. THAT is what free speech is built on.

That is all I have referred to free speech as. It is a point. I am not claiming I have free speech here.

So let me get this straight, you think the founding fathers did write free speech into the constitution for the purpose of trolling forums?

No, I was using free speech in an example to prove a point in my post since it is relative to the subject at hand of patriotism vs. "mudslinging" as you are viewing it. My free speech in America doesnt' have anything to do with what I have said here at escapist. Right now I am under escapists laws, not America's. A point you have missed like 3 or 4 times now.

For instance:

free speech makes what you said legal, but it doesn't make it socially acceptable or morally correct.

Free speech makes what I have said valid, not legal. As I am not entitled to any rights granted by the US government here. Socially acceptable and morality is a question of ethics and the morality side can be highly disregarded as personal opinion. As far as socially acceptable goes, I am pretty sure I am within the realms of that considering every day at work, the store, with friends, etc. the US government is a highly contested subject. Just because you are offended doesn't mean anything except perhaps you offend to easily. All I have said is "look at this fact about the US government, and make a joke about it." Like I suggested before get over yourself, and try thinking logically about it instead of emotionally.

The rest of your post basically follows these same ideas and you just repeat the same thing over and over just structuring the sentences differently. The notion that I wave my free speech around to validate my "not being nice" basically. And my failure to apologize, which I will not do. As I have not had my integrity challenged but rather just my morality. Which is challenged anytime someone disagrees with me. Oh yeah, and my maturity which is the first thing people on the internet will call into question to validate the high horse they are on. Can you spot a pattern here?

but you took a thread that has nothing to do with the government, and just made a downright idiotic non constructive insult out of the blue

See, man? Like this. I have a hard time believing anyone is that dense. Everything I have said has been in relation to what someone else has said. Lines like this is why I am done after this post.

 

[GiantSpiderGoat]

Just wait 'til the US gouvernment hears of this, they'll replace their soldier's blood with maple syrup so no one can bleed to death anymore. Watch out for the immortal Army!

The Immortal tasty army.