Proposed Bill Gives Obama Power to Shut Down Internet

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Nimbus said:
Doug said:
Well, depends. He certainly couldn't stop the internal networking of another country, but alot of traffic ends up travelling through America at some point, so it seems likely that shutting down the American zone of the internet would screw the rest of us over too.
Yes, but consider this: Would that still be the case when/if this bill passes? This could potentially discourage people from using American hosts.
True. Sadly, the internet could fracture into alot of different 'internets'. China where already talking about making their own system at one point; this might motivate them to start the project.
 

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Tank207 said:
This is unbelievable, 1984 is slowly becoming a reality.

sooperman said:
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That's actually pretty funny. What kind of emergency would need the internet to be stopped.
Obama is getting pwned at WoW! Quick, shut down the Internet!!
Can't help but wonder what class he would be, heh.
Also, would he be followed by a gang of Lvl 80 Secret Service Avatars?!
 

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Some of you are focusing your ire on the president as if he proposed this bill. He didn't, he's only the object of the bill in question as the President. Honestly, I'm not as up on the government process as I'd like to be, but bills like this come proposed, as the original article says. Now whether or not this would be supported by the President is another story. Unsure on that one.

Having the Internet up during a time of crisis might actually be more beneficial than harmful. Like someone earlier in this post, and ignoring all the extremist cries of socialism, fascism, and all the other nonsense that popped up in the link to the article, I'm more concerned about the fact that your average Congress person has little to no idea about the Internet on a meaningful level and has the power to vote on such a bill.

These kinds of things come up every so often and are summarily slapped down. I'm pretty hopeful this will be the same sort of thing, because "Cybersecurity" is still such a nebulous term and the Internet is so Wild West that regulating it in any way is a difficult job.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
[...]Last week, senators John Rockefeller [...] proposed the Cybersecurity Act that would create the Office of the National Cybersecurity Advisor. [...]
Now wasn't THIS surprising...
 

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Umm, the Internet is just a massive LAN. The ONLY way to shut it down would be to manually unplug every single router in the world, at best he could probably just partition it town-wide. Even then I don't see every country in the world shutting down their Internet because the USA said so (Shut down Internet = Lose your next election), it's just stupid.
 

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What's the betting that Computerworld got the story from The Register?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/federal_cybersecurity_legislation/

Please note the date.

As well, there's some rule somewhere that basically says that legislation needs to be noted in various places. Among such places is the official Senate website. Which says nothing about it.

Bravo, Vulture Central. Bravo.
 

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Is this because China owns most of the US (debt)?
This sounds like one of their bags of tricks.
 

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Doug said:
Tank207 said:
This is unbelievable, 1984 is slowly becoming a reality.

sooperman said:
Nivag said:
That's actually pretty funny. What kind of emergency would need the internet to be stopped.
Obama is getting pwned at WoW! Quick, shut down the Internet!!
Can't help but wonder what class he would be, heh.
Also, would he be followed by a gang of Lvl 80 Secret Service Avatars?!
His mount would be a limo with little American flags surrounded by secret service Night Elves.

That begs the question, what would you do if you ganked and tea bagged a player multiple times in any game, then found it was the president?
 

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Hawks_Pride said:
What's the betting that Computerworld got the story from The Register?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/federal_cybersecurity_legislation/

Please note the date.

As well, there's some rule somewhere that basically says that legislation needs to be noted in various places. Among such places is the official Senate website. Which says nothing about it.

Bravo, Vulture Central. Bravo.
We try, *sniff* we try our hardest *holds back the tears of pride at the comments*
 

TheBluesader

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Lord. When will old men and their terrified wives realize that they can't legislate against younger generations? It just gives us more incentive to ignore and hate them.

I swear, these people are no different than the mullahs ordering revenge rapings in Afghanistan. Old, out of touch, and desperate to maintain some kind of relevance before the icy claws of heart disease, cancer, and other Boomer affluence-caused diseases drag them down into the Underworld.

How would the Fed "shut down" the Internet anyway? Is Obama going to drive around, unplugging DNS servers? And how are we going to repair the billions of dollars in damage to the economy after a few days with a severely crippled Internet?

I'll also use this opportunity to say that the American Congress has been nothing but a sounding/policy enforcement board for moneyed interests for more than 100 years now, and if you've paid attention to them since the late 70s, you'll see that they themselves don't even understand why that's a bad thing.

I think American companies should be like Sweden with the EU web-tracking thing and just ignore Congress. The government can't give them all after school detention, right?
 

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SomeBritishDude said:
Doug said:
Tank207 said:
This is unbelievable, 1984 is slowly becoming a reality.

sooperman said:
Nivag said:
That's actually pretty funny. What kind of emergency would need the internet to be stopped.
Obama is getting pwned at WoW! Quick, shut down the Internet!!
Can't help but wonder what class he would be, heh.
Also, would he be followed by a gang of Lvl 80 Secret Service Avatars?!
His mount would be a limo with little American flags surrounded by secret service Night Elves.

That begs the question, what would you do if you ganked and tea bagged a player multiple times in any game, then found it was the president?
Nothing, he would just shut off the internet :p
 
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Hawks_Pride said:
What's the betting that Computerworld got the story from The Register?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/federal_cybersecurity_legislation/

Please note the date.

As well, there's some rule somewhere that basically says that legislation needs to be noted in various places. Among such places is the official Senate website. Which says nothing about it.

Bravo, Vulture Central. Bravo.
There is a theory that April Fool's day is the best time to pull a prank because no-one is expecting it to be real. Unfortunately, real news (like the Conficker virus) also happens on April 1st.
 

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I can't see this as doing anything but causing aggravation. The internet is international, the US government is likely to see a surge of electronic attacks if this bill is passed.
 

beddo

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It's the only way to help slowdown Skynet!

EDIT: This reminds me of Adam West sending the police to Columbia to rescue Elaine Wilder from fictional film, Romancing the Stone.
 
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Double Confirmation : This is NOT an April Fool's joke unless you expect the Senate to pull one for over a week [http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=bb7223ef-1d78-4de4-b1d5-4cf54fc38662&Month=4&Year=2009]
 

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I think it is cute that the government feels free to compare their katrina fuck-up to other potential, but completely unrelated, future fuck-ups.

also, that they want to give the president the ability to shut down the internet if something happens to the, and i quote, "traffic lights".