So in other words SONY was running pretty much no security metrics and reviewing no logs while it operated a 75 million user consumer network and online retail store. WAY TO GO IT TEAM!!!.Tom Goldman said:Working closely with several outside security firms, the company has implemented significant security measures to further detect unauthorized activity and provide consumers with greater protection of their personal information. The company is also creating the position of Chief Information Security Officer, directly reporting to Shinji Hasejima, Chief Information Officer of Sony Corporation, to add a new position of expertise in and accountability for customer data protection and supplement existing information security personnel. The new security measures implemented include, but are not limited to, the following:
Added automated software monitoring and configuration management to help defend against new attacks
Enhanced levels of data protection and encryption
Enhanced ability to detect software intrusions within the network, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns
Implementation of additional firewalls
You misstate the facts. Sony didn't "distribute" the information. Not in the sense that by way of error on their part, they inadvertently distributed the information. While that has happened in other cases, that isn't what happened in this case. In this case, Sony is itself a victim. It is a victim of cyber-crime. That's how the information was lost. Sony didn't "distribute" it. Rather, it was stolen from Sony.faefrost said:So in other words SONY was running pretty much no security metrics and reviewing no logs while it operated a 75 million user consumer network and online retail store. WAY TO GO IT TEAM!!!.Tom Goldman said:Working closely with several outside security firms, the company has implemented significant security measures to further detect unauthorized activity and provide consumers with greater protection of their personal information. The company is also creating the position of Chief Information Security Officer, directly reporting to Shinji Hasejima, Chief Information Officer of Sony Corporation, to add a new position of expertise in and accountability for customer data protection and supplement existing information security personnel. The new security measures implemented include, but are not limited to, the following:
Added automated software monitoring and configuration management to help defend against new attacks
Enhanced levels of data protection and encryption
Enhanced ability to detect software intrusions within the network, unauthorized access and unusual activity patterns
Implementation of additional firewalls
Sorry guys but it is going to take a bit more than some half assed "customer appreciation giveaways". You distributed my personal financial information, given to you in trust, to the planet. You forced me to make personal banking and security changes to compensate for your errors in not maintaining a properly secured environment, and you have vastly exposed my personal information to fraud theft and criminal activity that can have long ranging consequences in my life. (cause "identity theft victim" is always so helpful when you go to buy a new car or refi a house). Some of these may seem trivial but the fact is that this event already has an undesired real world impact on the 75 million SONY customers. The horse is out of the barn so to speak. And these 75 million victims will not be satisfied with 30 days "free" PSN+ and a free copy of "Cahoots". (or some similar undesirable DLC shovelware.)
If an issue is cretinously divided into "us" and "them," all that usually results from that is the truly important parts of the issue, which are all the parts that lie between "us" and "them," become drowned out by the voices of "us" and "them."FreedomofInformation said:If such a term was aimed at anyone it's first stop would be the myopic Sony fanboys.BanthaFodder said:neckbearded cunts
I'm not really surprised that you can't keep the free stuff. It's sort of a subscription bonus, I guess.That Guy Who Phails said:Nope.Regiment said:Well, this is good news. I appreciate the free downloads. It's nice.
If you buy/download discounted/free stuff with PlayStation Plus and then let the subscription lapse, do you still have access to the free stuff?
Don't you just love Sony?
Regiment said:Well, this is good news. I appreciate the free downloads. It's nice.
If you buy/download discounted/free stuff with PlayStation Plus and then let the subscription lapse, do you still have access to the free stuff?
Depends on what you buy. Add-ons are kept with you forever, like map packs and such, and anything you buy discounted is also with you forever. Free games expire until the subscription puts up, though if you get the full year then I don't see why you wouldn't just buy the game already (though we're not talking about a full year, so whatever).That Guy Who Phails said:Nope.Regiment said:Well, this is good news. I appreciate the free downloads. It's nice.
If you buy/download discounted/free stuff with PlayStation Plus and then let the subscription lapse, do you still have access to the free stuff?
Don't you just love Sony?
They gave bows?EchetusXe said:At the press conference they got their top brass to give 'deep bows'. The Japanese are not much for grovelling about on the floor, crying and pleading with you for mercy, so I'm afraid you will have to be satisfied with the bowing.swytchblayd said:I don't expect a few bonuses tossed in to win everyone with half a brain back; a better way would be to get on their hands and knees and start begging for people not to leave them behind >.>
I for one I am quite happy with the bowing. I don't recall Goldman Sachs or BP or Lehman Brothers doing any bowing. They may have bent over to show us where on the arse we can kiss them but definitely no humble bowing.
Hang on, does this mean I'm getting PS+ for all my accounts?Second, a "welcome back" program will offer free PlayStation Network downloads, a free 30-day membership to PlayStation Plus(...)
Do you also get the feeling that if Sony had offered free hamburgers for the rest of your life, someone would be complaining, "What? No french fries?"Jumplion said:Regiment said:Well, this is good news. I appreciate the free downloads. It's nice.
If you buy/download discounted/free stuff with PlayStation Plus and then let the subscription lapse, do you still have access to the free stuff?Depends on what you buy. Add-ons are kept with you forever, like map packs and such, and anything you buy discounted is also with you forever. Free games expire until the subscription puts up, though if you get the full year then I don't see why you wouldn't just buy the game already (though we're not talking about a full year, so whatever).That Guy Who Phails said:Nope.Regiment said:Well, this is good news. I appreciate the free downloads. It's nice.
If you buy/download discounted/free stuff with PlayStation Plus and then let the subscription lapse, do you still have access to the free stuff?
Don't you just love Sony?
You'd never know that from reading the OP's article though, would you? The way they tell the story, none of Sony's executives -- much less the No. 2 executive who is rumored to be the one about to given the No. 1 position of CEO -- showed their faces in public much less publicly admitted their shame. You'd be left with the impression that all they've done is issue a "press release" from behind closed doors.Shadie777 said:They gave bows?EchetusXe said:At the press conference they got their top brass to give 'deep bows'. The Japanese are not much for grovelling about on the floor, crying and pleading with you for mercy, so I'm afraid you will have to be satisfied with the bowing.swytchblayd said:I don't expect a few bonuses tossed in to win everyone with half a brain back; a better way would be to get on their hands and knees and start begging for people not to leave them behind >.>
I for one I am quite happy with the bowing. I don't recall Goldman Sachs or BP or Lehman Brothers doing any bowing. They may have bent over to show us where on the arse we can kiss them but definitely no humble bowing.
Im gonna have to forgive them then, it looks like they are truly sorry.
Its not every day that company executives give deep bows to the public.
They could cut as much as they wanted it but it wouldn't make me move to an inferior console.Airsoftslayer93 said:Does anyone else think that microsoft has missed a trick here, perfect opportunity to cut prices and attract thousands of people across
Again and this could just be me, but if you really want to impress me that my home security is vulnerable, then breaking into my house and stealing my shit isn't the way to go about doing so. I'd be too busy kicking the stuffing outta the thief, if and when I laid hands on them, to be bothered listening to anything they've got to say.Thedek said:Would the guy who just picked your crap tastic locks not be able to point you towards better ones?JDKJ said:Do you understand who failOverflow are and their conduct in relation to Sony and their relationship to Sony? You really expect Sony to take what a group of hackers who were (and I believe that some individual members still are) defendants in a lawsuit brought by Sony? That's like taking home security advice from the guy who just broke into your house and stole your flat-screen television. Not that the advice isn't credible. Just that the source isn't. I'm not gonna be the one heard to say, "Yeah, the guy that I'm suing just told me . . . and I'm taking his word for it."Thedek said:If what I am lead to believe is correct then they were warned prior to this about their shitty network security.
Proof. If this video is indeed legitimate.
It's like... the person broke into your house, felt so bad they didn't even take anything. Relocked everything and called you back up later to inform you how not to be an idiot about security.
Besides.... These guys took what from Sony? It sounded like they just wanted to put linux or something on there, got annoyed when they were told they couldn't, and figured out how they could. It's hardly malignant behavior. Geohotz seemed a lot more of an asshole about it.
It's like a guy kicking your ass in a video game, and informing you how to NOT suck. How does that constitute that guy being incorrect or wrong. Though as said Geo came across as a royal twat. These guys seemed much more civil. If they didn't do anything against Sony themselves they certainly have a point.
Besides you don't need to listen to exact what the person said. You just realize that they broke through your shit easily, and you get new shit, just not the ones they suggested.
It seems the world to me that Sony just had blinders on, head in the sand, head up their asses, went "nah! nah! nah! I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU!!" about the whole thing.