Question of the Day, May 1, 2010

[Low Key]

Definitely Fallout 3.

Everyone here was hyping up the first two games, so I went out and bought the trilogy, and I tried my best to get into it. I really did. I played FO1 for about an hour,

If 1 hour is what you define as trying hard, I can understand why you prefer Bethesdas "rpgs".

That said FO1 is harder to get into than FO2.

I tried it and didn't like it. What more do you want me to say? Do you expect me to keep playing a game I don't like? You obviously don't know this about me, but I think it speaks volumes when I go out and buy a PC game when I don't even game on my PC. I haven't since the early 90s.

 

[ineedscissors]

Fallout 3, as its the only one i've played. I would be willing to play F1 and F2, but i haz no PC.

 

[pneuma08]

Fallout 1 and 2 are so dated now it hurts. I may have to hunt down those supposed higher-res patches in order to play them again. They were SO GOOD, but 3 is so much more playable.

Fallout 3 has much I love and much that annoys me. Skill caps and EZ-stat-boosts and stimpaks on limbs make me sad inside. I'm hoping New Vegas will smooth things over.

 

[JaredXE]

I finished Fallouts 1 and 2, I got bored and stopped playing 3.

Wonder which one I voted for.

 

[Twilight_guy]

I played Fallout 1 and didn't like it much. I did like Fallout 3, but I doubt if I'll play Fallout 2 or 1 again.

 

[TOGSolid]

The poll isn't invalid because they didn't play the older ones enough, but because they didn't play them at all. You can't say that apple pie tastes better than blueberry pie if you've never even had blueberry pie.

Bingo, it'd be like asking which Bungie game do you like more. Marathon or Halo?

Most of the posters here are young and as such didn't get to play Fallout back when it was still new. If they tried to now, they'd probably hate them just because they're not all super flashy and shiny with the latest Gigatessafloppydoohicky rendering and are slow paced with a totally different feel gameplay wise. Isometric turn based combat versus first person shooty shoot, it's not hard to see why people today may not like the original fallouts.

It's a bogus poll and unless you can whittle it down to only asking people who actually got to play the series from the start back when they were new, you're going to get a huge skew towards Fallout 3 just cause most gamers haven't even played Fallout 1 and 2.

Case in point:

An OXM editor that refers to Fallout 3 as the "original" and has absolutely no idea who Obsidian is. These are the sort of people who will be answering this poll.

 

[Echo136]

Fallout 3. Ive played fallout 1 and it was boring as heck. Dunno why people say its such a masterpiece of gaming.

 

[H0ncho]

I tried it and didn't like it. What more do you want me to say? Do you expect me to keep playing a game I don't like?

I don't expect you to do anything really. But a lot of older games took a little time to get into - in other words, you couldn't simply start playing and get instant gratification. This made for a more interesting and deep gameplay, since the developers could demand from their players that they used a minimum of effort to understand their games. Sadly, since gamers nowadays think 1 hour is trying really hard to understand a game, all new games must be made with instand gratification in mind. This is good for the average new gamer I guess, but could you at least understand why old school gamers lament this fact?

 

[Echo136]

Fallout 3. Ive played fallout 1 and it was boring as heck. Dunno why people say its such a masterpiece of gaming.

hmm, you sir are entitled to your opinion, and hell i have not played fallout 1 and 2 so im not sure whether I will like them. But use your Logic! If it was not a good and successful game, then there would not have been a fallout 2, much less a 3. I think that there is a reason for the existence of fallout 3, and that reason is fallout 1 and 2.

Ive come to the conclusion that most people that preach Fallout 1 and 2 as the far superior games to Fallout 3 are viewing the games through, as someone said earlier in this thread, Rose-tinted nostalgia glasses. Fallout 1 came out in 97. I would have been 10 years old at the time and would not have been interested in Fallout even if I had known about it back then (and my computer was so crappy it probably wouldnt play anyways). People who already knew about Fallout 1 and 2 are nostalgic for the games. I have no such feelings and therefore I look at it from a neutral perspective. In my opinion Fallout 3 is far superior.

 

[H0ncho]

Ive come to the conclusion that most people that preach Fallout 1 and 2 as the far superior games to Fallout 3 are viewing the games through, as someone said earlier in this thread, Rose-tinted nostalgia glasses.

Thats funny because I played fallout 1&2 4-5 years ago, when their graphics were already massively outdated and still I think they are better than FO3 by a mile.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Why isn't Fallout Tactics on the list? I know a lot of the fans didn't really care for it, but I loved it... Cruising around in the Humvee, blowing the crap out of anything that got near it... Good times!

Poor Tactics... It had so much potential and yet, considering how it came to be, it is hardly surprising that it died of neglect.

Instead of having BIS put out a Fallout 3, Interplay had them slaving away at another D&D project... Interplay then made the genius move of contracting a developer to make a 3D tactical game despite the developer never having done anything of the sort AND having them work on a shortened development cycle. Add to this the JOY of Interplay not supplying the dev (MicroForte) with any prior art (which explains THAT little annoyance).

So, when it hit the shelves, it was essentially shovelware by a novice developer... and thrown out to a fan-base that was already hostile to it because it wasn't Fallout 3. It was also a buggy piece of shit that not even the voice acting of R Lee Ermey could save.

Of course, there was a cycle of patches that started fixing shit... but InterPlay lost interest in the whole deal and abandoned official support after a few patches. MicroForte (or at least some of it's staff) kept working on releasing patches to the game until the final patch which included the map editor, after which it was announced that due to the levels of hostility coming from the fanbase despite the patching project continuing after official support stopped they would rather spend time with their families than keep working their arses off and only get abuse for their efforts no more patches would be forthcoming.


So FOT went from bug ridden shovelware to flawed gem but was tragically slain by self-entitled pricks before it could attain the potential of a classic, worthy of standing next to the previous Fallout Titles.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Sprites are never 'outdated', you techtards.

 

[Starke]

Where's Fallout tactics? I loved that game

The unholy lovechild of Fallout and X-Com should never be forgotten.

 

[Starke]

The poll isn't invalid because they didn't play the older ones enough, but because they didn't play them at all. You can't say that apple pie tastes better than blueberry pie if you've never even had blueberry pie.

Bingo, it'd be like asking which Bungie game do you like more. Marathon or Halo?

Marathon 2

Most of the posters here are young and as such didn't get to play Fallout back when it was still new. If they tried to now, they'd probably hate them just because they're not all super flashy and shiny with the latest Gigatessafloppydoohicky rendering and are slow paced with a totally different feel gameplay wise. Isometric turn based combat versus first person shooty shoot, it's not hard to see why people today may not like the original fallouts.

Honestly, this has been something that's pissed me off in the F3 fandumb. Kids who start bitching out how horrible Fallout 1 and 2 are because they're "ugly."

I mean, I can accept there are people who don't like the isometric interface, I really can. But "ugly"?

It's a bogus poll and unless you can whittle it down to only asking people who actually got to play the series from the start back when they were new, you're going to get a huge skew towards Fallout 3 just cause most gamers haven't even played Fallout 1 and 2.

It probably should have been split between Fallout 3: Better than Rose Colored Glasses and Fallout 3: There were other games?

Case in point:

An OXM editor that refers to Fallout 3 as the "original" and has absolutely no idea who Obsidian is. These are the sort of people who will be answering this poll.

Someone is actually paying that idiot for his opinion? My mind is boggled good sir, boggled!

Slightly off topic, I wonder how NMA has dealt with the influx of F3 fans who weren't old enough to read when F1 and 2 came out...

 

[Blasphemous Rex]

I haven't played Fallout 1 & 2, not that I don't want to. So I guess I'm forced to pick 3.

 

[SonicKoala]

I HAVE Fallout 1 & 2 (got them from that sweet deal on Steam), but I have yet to play them thoroughly. Having said that, Fallout 3 is one of my all-time favourite games, so even though I haven't played the other two, I'm quite confident in picking 3 as my favourite.

 

[N3Burgener]

I guess I'll be one of the bold 7% to vote for the first one. I played it first, so I naturally have fonder memories of it, but FO2 reached a point way too early where it just stopped being challenging, thus making the rest of the game feel obligatory and unnecessary. FO3, on the other hand, is just utterly pointless -- no challenge, no point to anything. Meh.