Well I agree that the rape game seems like it's pushing some boundaries, but presumedly it does have a storyline. I'm just inherently against censorship. And you are right about GTA4.ygetoff said:
Rape Games Banned in Japan
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Finally! Ban that shit as fast as you can! THEN LEAVE THE REST ALONE!!! DON'T FUCK UP JAPAN WITH YOUR RETARDED CENSORSHIP AND "family friendly" SHIT!!!
The rape this is really screwed up. However, it seems that Japan has the most freedom for it's people then any country in the world. They also are dumb asses with the whole "family friendly" and "ethical" shit that (unfortunately the country I'm living in) America goes around spewing.
So please only take away the rape stuff and leave everything else the same.
Now on the "stalking" note. Games sold in Japan about stalking people DOWN100%. Ninja and sneaking games sold in Japan UP208%!
YAAAY NINJAS!!!!!
The rape this is really screwed up. However, it seems that Japan has the most freedom for it's people then any country in the world. They also are dumb asses with the whole "family friendly" and "ethical" shit that (unfortunately the country I'm living in) America goes around spewing.
So please only take away the rape stuff and leave everything else the same.
Now on the "stalking" note. Games sold in Japan about stalking people DOWN100%. Ninja and sneaking games sold in Japan UP208%!
YAAAY NINJAS!!!!!
1) Rape isn't just a sex crime against women. Men get raped, too. I find it shocking that some people can't understand this.
2) It's not real rape (thus, it's a victimless crime), and that's censorship. I'm not condoning rape, but how is that any of the government's business?
2) It's not real rape (thus, it's a victimless crime), and that's censorship. I'm not condoning rape, but how is that any of the government's business?
This is the industry setting a standard for itself. The government isn't forcing legistlation. They have simply agreed on a value.A random person said:
What excactly is expressed in a pornographic rape simulator? Nothing but perversion.
Manhunt and GTA didn't appear in a time where 1 in 4 people are murdered. They also have consequences for their actions and even when they glorify violence they portray it in a brutal real way.joystickjunki3 said:
I have seen footage of rape games before. They are passed around on torrents and sites link to direct downloads of them all the time. Unlike NPCs that are killed, the women are simply objectified and dehumanized. They simply spout the same "Oh god no, please" and never put up enough of a struggle, they simply lay in a simple idle animation todenoting that women are weak and in the end they end up either just "accepting" or "enjoying it". There is nothing shown about the trauma and pain they have to live with the rest of their lives. The humiliation, and fear that enters their mind just going outside into the street, or when another person innocently touches their shoulder or shakes their hand. Who cares when they were never human beings with personality to being with right?
In our run of the mill hack and slash video games and shooters do the NPCS simply line up, put up no struggle and enjoy being murdered or brutalized? They might not fight well enough, but they're given character and show pain.
This raises an interesting question and let's me play devil's advocate. Have you played the game that raised this controversy? Can you say that it has no storyline worth experiencing without having done so? Really, to write something off with no actual knowledge of the content is no better than the BS Fox News pulled with the Mass Effect "Sex Simulator" controversy.ygetoff said:
I think there's a fine difference between rape games and games with killing. We don't play violent games just to kill people. We play them because the game play is fun.
With a rape game, you are not playing it because the game play is fun. You are playing it to rape somebody.
With a rape game, you are not playing it because the game play is fun. You are playing it to rape somebody.
There is if the crime in question is VIRTUAL.ygetoff said:
I'd say you should question why you find killing virtual people fun in the first place, surely that points to the fact you are enjoying the killing. So who's to say people who play these type of games aren't just doing it for fun as well?Internet Kraken said:
I really don't see how people can have no problem with violently killing and dismembering people, but suddenly get all uppity about rape, surely murder is far worse then rape.
Excuse me of someone making a stupid comment gets on my nerves when Im a bit rilled up about a over-zealous 'equal rights' group that takes it too far instead of actually help promote equality. He could have said something relavent instead or maybe that he agreed or just said nothing.Nimbus said:
Wait. Japanese censore p*ssy in all their porn, yet they allow games about rape to be released? What the hell?
Yeah that sure explains how genitalia and body hair is always blurred out in their pornography (it's the law.)Nimbus said:
And how many retailers were forbidden to sell books and movies that shed light to their horrendous war crimes commitied by their righteous war heroes who were doing their duty to spread the barbaric foreigners under the one roof of the Chrysanthemum throne.
Very much in agreement with you on this, especially considering the extremely low rape incidence rate in the country itself - until some real research is done into the effect that such games have, banning the game genre is purely reactionary and done purely to appease foreigners, who aren't exactly affected by the issue...G-Mang said:
Being half Dutch it (albeit loosely) reminds me of the reaction of foreigners to legalised prostitution in the Netherlands, (because sex is talked about openly, the teenage pregnancy rate is extremely low, which most people don't believe), or Cannabis (alcoholism is much more of a problem than dope addicts).
That said, there is a huge fetish market in Japan, and a lot of corresponding games - in this case the fetish market came first (sorry!) and the games are part of it, as opposed to it's cause - but again without research you can't say for sure whether the games are increasing interest that wouldn't exist otherwise or not.
Anyone else notice how high Canada was on that list? That really surprised me...G-Mang said:
EDIT: I can see this thread is going downhill - people are getting really riled up - I'm not saying that I'm for or against the game, but banning something without any proof that it causes harm, without any complaints from the country it is retailed in and aimed at, is not a good move. It opens the way for banning other things purely because another country which would never have heard of it's existence nor encountered it in any form before now doesn't agree with it or finds it unpalatable.