Rape Games Banned in Japan

[Ancientgamer]

and this guy HAS IT!
This is not art! This is depravity! Thus I think the correct response is an industry ban...more than reasonable, in fact I condone that idea!

If it was artistic...by everyones standards or by 65% of gamers....its art and it deserves to not be sold underground!

So something has to be art to be sold? What's your definition of art? Or rather, you think something should be banned because you think it's depraved? Hell, even if it is depraved you think that's reason to ban it? The whole goddamn industry would be under if we objectively banned thing because they were depraved. Can you honestly say saints row is art?

?First they came for the depiction of Rape in Video games, but I was not a supporter of the First Amendment so I did not speak out.
Then they came for Murder and Nudity in Movies, but I was not supporter of the First Amendment, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Media in all forms, but I was not a supporter of the First Amendment so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no longer a First Amendment to protect my rights.?

Corny, and not entirely applicable, but maybe that will get it through your head.

 

[Bat Vader]

but this is fictional, you make it sound like a real life event, this is about a game in wchich theyre are no feelings, just animations, and what te player chooses to do, there is no dignity in a game like this already lol

They should at least have the women fight back.

 

[black-magic]

This is a shame, I wanted to try these games.

 

[imburke]

of course major media and the industry will stand against it, like the CEO of EA would come out into a press release and go rape is a-ok! no one would buy his stuff, thats why all these games are third party development.
as a side note, this is kind of part of their culture, i mean, as odd as it is, you wouldnt want another country saying you couldnt play hockey or football because it condemns violence against children right?

 

[zoozilla]

it's also interesting to note that Japan has a very low rape rate [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#UN_Statistics] in relation to most other nations.

This is a very important point.

Most arguments for the ban revolve around the idea that these games promote rape. Statistics don't support that fact. The rape rate in the US is more than 15 times higher than Japan's.

I think most people would agree that virtual rape is preferable to actual rape.

 

[Simalacrum]

I'm passionate about my porn XD

oh aren't we all

 

[imburke]

but if they do fight back, does that make it worse or better?

 

[chipmunk2510]

Everyone who has played a violent video game and agrees with this ban is a fucking hypocrite.
If this offends you then don't play it. It's that simple.

 

[duchaked]

what the heck...

well there was that shake-the-baby iPhone app ordeal a while back haha

 

[KaiusCormere]

Pretty much what I think should be off-limits :
Any graphic/interactive Rape, Graphic/interactive depiction of torture or murder as in Saw, Hostel, or Se7en.

Violence, even if gory, isn't as bad when it's not done out of some twisted evil. A guy who blows someone up with a grenade in a battle isn't like a serial killer getting off on it.
Even in GTA killing is usually done as business, it's not done for a thrill. So and so talked to the cops, kill him, isn't AT ALL like "I've been stalking the family for 3 days, now i'm going to break in and carve them up and eat them."

Torture, and rape are always the act of a disturbed, evil mind.

 

[tehweave]

Ethics Organization of Computer Software, Japan's PC game rating agency, has called for a halt to the retail sale of videogames that simulate rape.

Are there that many games out there? They call forth a halt on RETAIL sale of games with rape in them?

And here in america when the GTA series pulls its tits out for the first time, (coffee) everyone goes completely bonkers. In japan, there's a whole fucking genre for that sort of thing...

The mind reels.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Japan should have banned this shit a long time ago.

 

[Ham Blitz]

Interesting news. Even though the game is a weird concept, I think I will have to go with those on the opposing side of this. I mean, some of the points are good, like the whole double standard thing, but I think a very good point would come from some earlier comments about ratings. At a younger age, most children are impressionable, but after a certain age and parents reassuring, they realize that video games are not where you are suppose to get your morals from, but rather from reality. By the time most people are able to buy games like this, they should already realize that doing things simulated in the games are not socially acceptable and bad ideas. Some could say kids get violent from getting games about their rating, but that leads back to the initial problem that the parents let the kid have the game in the first place, or at least didn't make sure the kid already knew things like, "murder is bad".

 

[Pimppeter2]

*facepalm*

 

[imburke]

people who want to rape = wanted to do it before the game
violence against women = take in consideration, every other game in the world, i mean
ban smash bros then, mario beats the shit out of peach in that

 

[Marv21]

and this guy HAS IT!
This is not art! This is depravity! Thus I think the correct response is an industry ban...more than reasonable, in fact I condone that idea!

If it was artistic...by everyones standards or by 65% of gamers....its art and it deserves to not be sold underground!

So something has to be art to be sold? What's your definition of art? Or rather, you think something should be banned because you think it's depraved? Hell, even if it is depraved you think that's reason to ban it? The whole goddamn industry would be under if we objectively banned thing because they were depraved. Can you honestly say saints row is art?

?First they came for the depiction of Rape in Video games, but I was not a supporter of the First Amendment so I did not speak out.
Then they came for Murder and Nudity in Movies, but I was not supporter of the First Amendment, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Media in all forms, but I was not a supporter of the First Amendment so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no longer a First Amendment to protect my rights.?

Corny, and not entirely applicable, but maybe that will get it through your head.

heheheh....yes yes it did! That is a good point, its all that first ammendment stuff! I was just saying art in general because thats something that everyone can agree thats needed. I did think Saints Row was artistic in the aspect that it showed the life in a suburban environment entirely populated by adults who act like kids who want to shot things up(if u can't tell im kidding).

Thats right...protect your right of censorship...im with you...you accuratly drove it threw my thick skull...KUDOS!

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Good show! There really is no place in a society for cultural material that explicitly and obviously promotes and normalizes rape.

EDIT: Even better is the fact that it's being banned by industry policy and not legislation.

But murder is fine?


How about them double standards?

If you actually read the thread you would see that not only have I already responded to this, I have asserted that explicit and obvious promotion of murder is not acceptable in media.

Oh yeah. Definitely. Except it is accepted in games. (Games are becoming even more realistic all the time, which I believe the rape games were doing to. Showing the process of stalking somebody, and raping them. The same thing happens in games, but people had decided that killing is more acceptable.)

 

[Ziren]

but if they do fight back, does that make it worse or better?

According to Wikipedia it would just target another demographic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation_for_rape