Rape Games Banned in Japan
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I suppose that this game "normalize and promote sexual violence against women and girls" in much the same way that the Grand Theft Auto series normalized and promoted drug dealing and vehicular homicide... to be succinct IT'S A F***ING GAME!!!!! IT IS NOT REAL F***ING LIFE!!!!!. (all this being said, i believe all rapists shound be forcibly made into eunuchs (no more male genitalia)).
Yay for Japan bending over to Americans feminazis. Give them too much more time and even the middle east will bow to them.
I might not agree with the subject matter of the games, but I AM a firm believer in personal freedom in any situation except where there is ACTUAL harm done to another.
Next the hentai games and hentai movies will be targeted by "women's rights" groups (really just groups made to stick it to anything male.) Japan doesn't have the guarantees of free speech that keeps porn legal in the US. Porn in all it's forms could very well be banned there if this pattern keeps up.
(on a side note, someone had to play the asshole here, and I could see that no one else would do it.)
I might not agree with the subject matter of the games, but I AM a firm believer in personal freedom in any situation except where there is ACTUAL harm done to another.
Next the hentai games and hentai movies will be targeted by "women's rights" groups (really just groups made to stick it to anything male.) Japan doesn't have the guarantees of free speech that keeps porn legal in the US. Porn in all it's forms could very well be banned there if this pattern keeps up.
(on a side note, someone had to play the asshole here, and I could see that no one else would do it.)
Bullshit, I have danced around nothing. I have said that the difference between what's acceptable and what's not is glorification. Rape is not something that can be portrayed in a positive or even a neutral light, because, as much as people who like video games like to deny it, media is one of the primary determining forces of those parts of reality that are beyond our immediate experience, and therefore has a strong influence over people's perceptions of things like war, violence, crime and yes, sex. What, specifically, are you disagreeing with me about?Caliostro said:
This is disappointing. I would have thought that gamers would understand the difference between playing a game and reality.
Maybe they should ban violent games as well. After all, we can't condone violence or rape. Hell, lets just ban every offensive game out there.
Maybe they should ban violent games as well. After all, we can't condone violence or rape. Hell, lets just ban every offensive game out there.
Really? Picture Daffy Duck raping Porky Pig. That's pretty funny, and funny is a positive thing. Also, these games kept people who might want to try raping someone just for the experience of doing it from actually doing it. According to every study not paid for my anti-porn groups (and even some of the ones that are) incidences of sex crimes DROP when porn, prostitution and simulations of sex crimes are legal.Good morning blues said:
Personally, I'm against rape in all it's depictions, real or otherwise. But, you guys can go masturbate to depictions of women (or men, whatever floats your boat) being brutalized, it's a free country.
Well I wrote a response in detail which is being buried as I type this.Joeshie said:
In short however I agree with you. This is a bad move for censorship in general, especially seeing as Japan is not fighting it at least domestically.
Besides which you start to establish a precedent that gets quite disturbing. As I mentioned earlier a good portion of the entire "Romance" genere is based around rape fantasies (being taken roughly by someone your attracted to). Not to mention some stuff in horror fiction (rape is horrifying for obvious reasons, and banning something because it's scary kind of defeats the purpose of the genere).
Honestly though it scares me to death that the game industry is not fighting back. I'm looking back to various attempts to ban books through the years. Everything from the writings of "The Marquis De Sade", to "Don Juan", to "Lolita". Success has only been temporary when it has actually happened, BUT there were always people fighting against it. Right not it seems that all the people who should be fighting are too scared for finiancial reasons to do what is right.
It's been a while since I've read it, but let's be honest... 101 Days in Sodom (I think it's called, I have an old copy printed with some of his other stuff in a paperback from the 1960s gathering dust somewhere, not my usual fare, but one of the more warped things I've read) is like a hundred times more disturbing that most of the stuff being banned for sexual content... and if anything I think the catagory of "sex" should be moving forward in intensity in the media in general (but that's another discussion).
At any rate "Sodom" (mentioned above) has a pretty warped story which involves the heavy duty molestation of young children and... other things... at the hands of a rather freakish group of people representing the elite of society for the time. However the end of the 'book' goes into a list of perversions which are divided into three catagories, the ending group of which is 'lethal' and basically amounts to what people currently refer to as "Guro".
But basically if freedom of speech covers our buddy The Marquis, one has to argue under what grounds some of this stuff can possibly be banned. Anyone with half a brain should be pointing out that if you can find his books, or track down a copy of Anne Rice's "Claiming Of Sleeping Beauty" trilogy. Oh and I don't just have Sleeping Beauty in paperback, I've also got the "book on tape" version .
So being repetitive, I think this is ridiculous, and honestly if this kind of stuff offends you, there is noone forcing you to play it. "We must protect the children" is not an excuse to engage in information fascism. How about "Parents must protect THEIR children" trying to change society so they can be lazy is what a good portion of the complaints are about.
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BTW> Daffy Duck and Porky Pig is too "furry" for me, and I am straight. However I did like the images that were being circulated a few years ago of Jasmine, Belle, and Ariel (human form) having a disney princesses orgy.
THAT'S A PRETTY FUCKING GOOD IDEA.
And that's my general thoughts on the subject encapsulated into one sentence. Seriously, whomever makes this shit should be thrown in jail. Yes, I know, freedom of expression and all, but GOOD GOD, COME ON!
And that's my general thoughts on the subject encapsulated into one sentence. Seriously, whomever makes this shit should be thrown in jail. Yes, I know, freedom of expression and all, but GOOD GOD, COME ON!
Hmm, I wouldn't play this game, but people have been fair to point out the hypocrisy of banning rape but not murder in fictional games, and only more so because it's only games and not other types of fiction being changed by this.
You can say what you want ethically about rape, but murder is the ending of any possible future life, unless you believe in life after death, in which case you probably believe murder as a sin anyway. Rape normally ruins life, but some brave souls at the victim's end can recover from it and live decent lives. In this sense, murder's still worse. Of course it goes deeper than that, but I just thought I'd play with the logic a little.
The psychology behind these games is interesting too, in that you can argue both ways. We could say that either these games encourage addiction (by introducing people to the idea, and perhaps making them enjoy it because of repetitive exposure) or discourage real life enactments of the addiction (by allowing the person to do something they know is wrong in a way that doesn't effect the real world). I think the result, however, would have to be a mixture of both, and in that sense the effect would amount to neutrality. In this sense, restriction may be meaningless.
With that said, exposing new people to this kind of thing would mean more people would have a chance of wanting it, and I don't support the corruption of human desire itself. It may be something that some people who are disturbed and need to express this feeling in some way need these medias until they can somehow psychologically overpower the desire. One thing is certain; such a media, if not in the wrong already, would become wrong the moment it is shared with someone who isn't in that rut already. Because at that point, it may begin to twist more desires.
The unfortunate reality about these "rape genres" and other twisted media is that they DO get shared if you release them to the public. That means the amount of people with rape fantasies could steadily increase as this genre grew in the public space. That, I think, is where restriction must come in.
If that is the case, then perhaps killing in games should be banned too. As someone who plays FPS games regularly, I do feel somewhat guilty for saying so, but I would never wish the love for such games on other people, since I also have a sense of guilt for enjoying such games.
You can say what you want ethically about rape, but murder is the ending of any possible future life, unless you believe in life after death, in which case you probably believe murder as a sin anyway. Rape normally ruins life, but some brave souls at the victim's end can recover from it and live decent lives. In this sense, murder's still worse. Of course it goes deeper than that, but I just thought I'd play with the logic a little.
The psychology behind these games is interesting too, in that you can argue both ways. We could say that either these games encourage addiction (by introducing people to the idea, and perhaps making them enjoy it because of repetitive exposure) or discourage real life enactments of the addiction (by allowing the person to do something they know is wrong in a way that doesn't effect the real world). I think the result, however, would have to be a mixture of both, and in that sense the effect would amount to neutrality. In this sense, restriction may be meaningless.
With that said, exposing new people to this kind of thing would mean more people would have a chance of wanting it, and I don't support the corruption of human desire itself. It may be something that some people who are disturbed and need to express this feeling in some way need these medias until they can somehow psychologically overpower the desire. One thing is certain; such a media, if not in the wrong already, would become wrong the moment it is shared with someone who isn't in that rut already. Because at that point, it may begin to twist more desires.
The unfortunate reality about these "rape genres" and other twisted media is that they DO get shared if you release them to the public. That means the amount of people with rape fantasies could steadily increase as this genre grew in the public space. That, I think, is where restriction must come in.
If that is the case, then perhaps killing in games should be banned too. As someone who plays FPS games regularly, I do feel somewhat guilty for saying so, but I would never wish the love for such games on other people, since I also have a sense of guilt for enjoying such games.
Actually, both sides are committing a crime; the counter terrorists are committing an international war crime by being there at all, particularly since they're American, as you can tell by the flags imprinted on most of their uniforms.hebdomad said:
I've never played or attempted to play RapeLay but umm... I don't see why a game that simulates rape is this horrendous thing which needs to be banned, and games that depict torture and the brutal treatment of other human beings is still allowed to be sold. Actually a very large percentage of games include at least some violent content which would not be suitable in real life.
I mean, I don't care that they banned it but this whole situation seems very hypocritical
I mean, I don't care that they banned it but this whole situation seems very hypocritical