Rape Games Not Banned in Japan After All

sms_117b

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It's just a game, there's far worse stuff out there on the internet, especially now I know about the #chans......*shudders*
 

Sparrow

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Rape games banned, rape games not banned...

Does it matter either way? The sick freaks who like this stuff will still find means to get to it either way.
 

The Shade of Time

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Well I say its just an outlet for some people.

like say if your really angry and you want to play a fighting game to relive said stress.

I personally think its descusting but atleast there raping virtual people... well I wonder what would happen if this was in Doomsday Arcade.
 

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This is a crime against humanity.

Why, Japan? Why? You're already a titan when it comes to the videogame industry, so why must you tarnish your reputation with acts such as this?

Why?
 

Therumancer

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Oddly nobody bothers to read the point that "rape" fantasies are healthy and something both genders are actually into. It's just when people confuse fantasy and reality that it becomes a problem.

Let me be honest, being taken forcibly by an attactive member of your sexual orientation is like the point of a huge percentage of porno fiction out there. Especially the stuff directed AT women, it's just that rather than porn they refer to it as "romance" and instead of
putting a half naked girl on the cover, they put Fabio with his shirt open and a giant bulge in his pants on the cover. The words might be more flowery in places, but it amounts to the same stuff.

"Oh my god, this girl has been kidnapped by pirate Fabio, tied to the mast, and molested by him, secretly loving every second. Gogo girl, I wish I could be her... "


One of the problems with women and the whole idea of "feminism" is that women are probably like 10x more perverted than guys at their worst. The only differance being that they aren't as overt about it unless you know where to look. The feminist movement taking the general attitude (when you get down to it) that men are too immature to handle erotic fantasy, but it's okay for women (this however leads into a whole differant area of discussion).

As I've mentioned in other threads, despite the inclusion of the word "rape" typically these games involve the protaganists fighting in some kind of tournament where part of the reward is to humniliate/sexually enjoy/whatever the loser of the matches. No matter how their personalities might seem otherwise, all of the characters are sadistic pervs who want to be "on top" but secretly don't mind being on the receiving end. Realisitc? Heck no, but then again it's not supposed to be.

So basically, I'm glad this turned out to be a rumor, and I hope Japan takes a hard line against any kind of censorship. I also hope they also start fighting more to bring translated, but otherwise uncensored works to the US.

Truthfully if you can't tell fantasy from reality you have issues that go well beyond anything your going to find in a video game. Also if the idea of "Rapelay" bothers you, go track down some old "Gor" novels (not the most hardcore thing out there, but after the initial trilogy you'll understand what I mean). Gor having spawned it's own RL BDSM subculture, look up "Gorean" sometime.

Then as I've mentioned before, people have ultimatly failed to ban books/stories by guys like The Marquis Desade, and honestly while not the worst guy out there, he's whole levels of sick beyond anything your likely to find in erotic video games, including horror/rape hentai.


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Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
There is no such proof of that. In fact Japan has a high rate of failure to report sexual crimes because of its view on women.
If they failed to speak out how do you know????
 

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wolfy098 said:
Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
There is no such proof of that. In fact Japan has a high rate of failure to report sexual crimes because of its view on women.
If they failed to speak out how do you know????
That is the point Japan doesn't even have a real organization for women who have been violently assaulted to. In fact Japan until recently didn't even take crimes against women seriously until pressure from the UN in the 90's. To sit there and honestly take Japan's violence stats seriously shows naivety when it is a nation that has shown little regard to women and considers having 40 or so Clinics for women of violent assault to be satisfactory. You tell me how you can tout the rape stats of Japan as fact when even the Gov't of Japan admits their countermeasures to violence against women is not satisfactory?
 

Nimbus

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I'd like to know The Escapist's official position on these "Rape Games".
 

Doug

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wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
Whilst you can argue that from the reported rapes, do bare in mind that the Japanese culture is hugely different and it seems likely to me that the 'rape games' have little to do with the trend for low reported rapes in their country. A more likely scenario for me is a combination of increased shame, increased objectivation of women making them more submissive, and a general attitude of 'its not rape'. MAybe I'm wrong, but I don't think a handful of these games would appease the 'urges' of the average rapist.

Historical data of pre-1990's rape stats would probably provide a fair baseline of what affect these games have had.
 

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Nimbus said:
I'd like to know The Escapist's official position on these "Rape Games".
You can have mine: Kill it with fire.

Rapists are scum. Pure and simple - semihuman at best, animals at worst. I've seen their handiwork, and by god, it was the single most horrible thing I've ever seen. A human being destroyed, and yet still alive. I'm sorry, but words cannot accurattely convey my revulsion here.
 

wolfy098

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Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
There is no such proof of that. In fact Japan has a high rate of failure to report sexual crimes because of its view on women.
If they failed to speak out how do you know????
That is the point Japan doesn't even have a real organization for women who have been violently assaulted to. In fact Japan until recently didn't even take crimes against women seriously until pressure from the UN in the 90's. To sit there and honestly take Japan's violence stats seriously shows naivety when it is a nation that has shown little regard to women and considers having 40 or so Clinics for women of violent assault to be satisfactory. You tell me how you can tout the rape stats of Japan as fact when even the Gov't of Japan admits their countermeasures to violence against women is not satisfactory?
New Japan Women's Association
All-Japan League Of Women
International Feminists of Japan
League Of Women Voters

cut the &%$" mate

edit: ah just found it couldn't be sure

Rape Emergency Intervention Counseling Okinawa (REICO)
P.O. Box 147
Ginowan Post Office
Okinawa-ken 901-22
Japan
Tel: 098-897-7071
Hotline: 098-890-6110
 

wolfy098

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Doug said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
Whilst you can argue that from the reported rapes, do bare in mind that the Japanese culture is hugely different and it seems likely to me that the 'rape games' have little to do with the trend for low reported rapes in their country. A more likely scenario for me is a combination of increased shame, increased objectivation of women making them more submissive, and a general attitude of 'its not rape'. MAybe I'm wrong, but I don't think a handful of these games would appease the 'urges' of the average rapist.

Historical data of pre-1990's rape stats would probably provide a fair baseline of what affect these games have had.
I won't deny that japan has had a bad history however this has become better over time
 

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people go so mad about this and i agree rape games are bad but really you have got to take a step back and realise this is part of japanese culture.

trying to get them to stop this is like making british stop eating fish and chips it cannot be done.

get angry all you want but it takes big shift to change a culture, the UN tried in the 90's and barely had any results.
 

Rajin Cajun

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wolfy098 said:
Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
There is no such proof of that. In fact Japan has a high rate of failure to report sexual crimes because of its view on women.
If they failed to speak out how do you know????
That is the point Japan doesn't even have a real organization for women who have been violently assaulted to. In fact Japan until recently didn't even take crimes against women seriously until pressure from the UN in the 90's. To sit there and honestly take Japan's violence stats seriously shows naivety when it is a nation that has shown little regard to women and considers having 40 or so Clinics for women of violent assault to be satisfactory. You tell me how you can tout the rape stats of Japan as fact when even the Gov't of Japan admits their countermeasures to violence against women is not satisfactory?
New Japan Women's Association
All-Japan League Of Women
International Feminists of Japan
League Of Women Voters

cut the &%$" mate
Yes continue to ignore what I am saying all those orgs were created to appease the UN and make it look like Japan is taking the problem seriously. Don't be stupid because you don't like the proof. You continue to ignore the fact that the ENTIRE country only has around 40 centers for women who have suffered violence.

Also you do realize Okinawa is a separate island right?
 

wolfy098

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Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Rajin Cajun said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
There is no such proof of that. In fact Japan has a high rate of failure to report sexual crimes because of its view on women.
If they failed to speak out how do you know????
That is the point Japan doesn't even have a real organization for women who have been violently assaulted to. In fact Japan until recently didn't even take crimes against women seriously until pressure from the UN in the 90's. To sit there and honestly take Japan's violence stats seriously shows naivety when it is a nation that has shown little regard to women and considers having 40 or so Clinics for women of violent assault to be satisfactory. You tell me how you can tout the rape stats of Japan as fact when even the Gov't of Japan admits their countermeasures to violence against women is not satisfactory?
New Japan Women's Association
All-Japan League Of Women
International Feminists of Japan
League Of Women Voters

cut the &%$" mate
Yes continue to ignore what I am saying all those orgs were created to appease the UN and make it look like Japan is taking the problem seriously. Don't be stupid because you don't like the proof. You continue to ignore the fact that the ENTIRE country only has around 40 centers for women who have suffered violence.
... do you know how stupid you sound...

done your research?
if so WHERE
 

Doug

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wolfy098 said:
Doug said:
wolfy098 said:
Optimus Prime said:
Sigh, why doesn't Japan just ban rape FULLSTOP!
sorry to say this but Japan has one of the lowest amount of rapes in any country because of these games...

American rapists rape people
Japanese rapists go out of their way not to and play rape games
we call this MORALS
Whilst you can argue that from the reported rapes, do bare in mind that the Japanese culture is hugely different and it seems likely to me that the 'rape games' have little to do with the trend for low reported rapes in their country. A more likely scenario for me is a combination of increased shame, increased objectivation of women making them more submissive, and a general attitude of 'its not rape'. MAybe I'm wrong, but I don't think a handful of these games would appease the 'urges' of the average rapist.

Historical data of pre-1990's rape stats would probably provide a fair baseline of what affect these games have had.
I won't deny that japan has had a bad history however this has become better over time
Fair enough, fair enough. I'm just saying you can't make factual statements about what the average American and Japanese rapists do. Even the statistics aren't enough to tell, as as stated before, the Japanese culture still reduces the likely hood of reporting sexual assault, and allows for more 'submissive' targets for the scum to control for there wants.

Thinking on it, even the historical data isn't enough to compare with, as historical data is more likely to be uncomplete.
 

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Fondant said:
Nimbus said:
I'd like to know The Escapist's official position on these "Rape Games".
You can have mine: Kill it with fire.

Rapists are scum. Pure and simple - semihuman at best, animals at worst. I've seen their handiwork, and by god, it was the single most horrible thing I've ever seen. A human being destroyed, and yet still alive. I'm sorry, but words cannot accurattely convey my revulsion here.
Thank you.
What I want to know is why they get off so easily.
 

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CabooseKill400 said:
Well I say its just an outlet for some people.

like say if your really angry and you want to play a fighting game to relive said stress.

I personally think its descusting but atleast there raping virtual people... well I wonder what would happen if this was in Doomsday Arcade.
o lol... I mean oh dear.