El pup said:
Take the time to put together a logical, reasoned point of view? No, it really doesn't take me any time at all. This is my normal thought process that flow, to be honest if I put time and effort the effort would actually go in to making it shorter. As Mark Twain has said "I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead."
As for the "No one here agrees with you" argument you posted, if you read some of the other posts I think you may find that this one has not resulted in the "good job Rebecca" praise she normally gets... Even her twitter has been getting harsh replies lately. Therefor I don't necesarily feel this is the wrong choice of venue...
I especially don't feel like its the wrong choice of venue because I'm not passing idol destructive criticism... These are legitament complaints. My joking to sort of make the point a little more accessable to certain people is just that... I wouldn't see how it renders the points I make as INVALID. It's like saying Richard Dawkins is wrong in his Oxford studies on Evolutionary biology just because he focuses so strongly on atheism.
And while you feel like they are just me preaching to the wrong choir, why is silencing me the only option? In a sense you would be doing the same thing in preaching to me (all though in your case you are more white knighting)... Wouldn't it be more inappropriate to start a "I HAVEN'T LIKED REBECCA MAYES LATELY" thread? It would be a little uncalled for. Responding to her latest video on here seems like the best place to do it.
All that reading, with none of the comprehension. Go reread what I said:
1) I never said no one agreed with you, I said few people here would agree with you.
2) I didn't say your insults and ad hominem attacks invalidated your points, I said they invalidated their
worth. Big difference. To make your analogy appropriate, it would be like Dawkins trying to publish an academic paper on evolutionary biology and, in it, he states "Besides, anybody who believes in god is a fucking retard." I doubt that paper would get published, regardless of how valid or noteworthy the other material was.
3) I never said you shouldn't state your opinion, and I certainly don't wish to silence you. I simply pointed out that you're more likely to achieve the effect you are looking for (a discussion of the flaws you perceive) in a different forum. I still maintain that to be the case; furthermore, I don't think that posting a reasonable thread with the title "So am I the only one who hasn't liked RMM much lately?" would be inappropriate. If you cut and pasted what you wrote above, you'd probably get in trouble for being so insulting about it, but there have been plenty of threads about Yahtzee being a jerk or whatever over the couple of years I've been posting here.
4) I'm not being a 'white knight'. Or at least that is not my intention. I simply was saying that a lot of people probably would give your opinion more consideration if you didn't have the schoolyard namecalling (at worst) and ad hominem arguments (at best) in it.
So, to sum up, insults and ad hominem attacks are useless things when you're trying to make a point about which you feel strongly; if you're really trying to appeal to a specific audience, I would suggest you consider who, exactly, is going to both find those 'jokes' amusing and actually be interested in a discussion, anyway?
