Rebecca Mayes Muses: War for Cybertron
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The melody was preety good and quite soothing at times. However, the lyrics were just awful, even if they were intended to be such. =/
Oh well...
Oh well...
Really? You think Tool would put out a great country album? Public Enemy a great technical math metal album. Madonna a concerto?Blayze2k said:
Great musicians work their talents in a particular area, if I may draw a somewhat lame gaming analogy, putting their skill points into the technical requirements of songwriting required by the genre.
For example, Rebecca Mayes creates simple melodies with a guitar. That's what she's practiced. This song was somewhat anti-melodic and is based on layering tracks on top of eachother to crechendo into a peak and then end with a denouement. Songwriting like this requires skills more analogous to certain styles of techno or trance than those of soft rock.
So when someone without those requisite skills tries to make a song of a genre the songwriter is ill equipped to succeed and, as we see with this example, fails.
I thought this was really good on all levels, and was glad to hear a switch in musical style. I think people are a little quick to associate a playful stab in a new direction, or indeed any sentiment in a creative work, with some kind of over-arching attitude or methodology on behalf of the artist. That's just not the case most of the time in any artistic field.
solidstatemind said:
Wow, he didn't say anything to deserve such a comment. He spoke the truth and you and your fanboys attack him for it? If someone isn't supposed to speak their minds on here, then why the hell are you posting videos in the first place? I find this whole thread disgusting right now.Rebecca Mayes said:
Miss.Mayes, you especially should be ashamed of that.
This is too easy.
Did I call him names? ... No.
Did I tell him he had no right to his opinion? ... No.
Did I tell him he was wrong? ... No.
Did I even point out the glaring strawman arguments and unfounded assumptions contained in his original post? ... No.
I simply told him that he was not making his argument any stronger by being rude, and that if he was really interested in discussing what he perceives as the decay of her work, commenting on one video probably isn't the most prudent place to detail his opinion of the entire arc of her carreer.
Both of those I still think are entirely valid points.
So, tell me again how I "attacked" him?
Or are you one of those people who view any dissention with the point of view you hold as being some sort of personal attack? Because that seems to be the only reasonable conclusion to draw, particularly when you basically are also telling the artist that she didn't even have the right to respond to his insults, or defend herself and her work. That is ridiculous and borderline irrational.
(Also, pro-tip: El Pup didn't 'speak the truth', he was stating his personally-held opinion... I have an opinion myself: El Pup seems to be a reasonably smart dude, but he needs to stop using insults when he wants to have a serious discussion, else he just looks like he's still in grade school. Both of us expressed our opinions.)
I note that you conveniently completely redacted my text- interesting choice considering that any bit of it would prove you completely wrong. Please provide one example of where I 'attacked' El Pup. Just one, outside of the 'no reading comprehension' comment that I made... which I believe was less an attack and more a valid criticism- particularly since I refuted what he claimed I said fairly thoroughly. I didn't even go spelling nazi on him. I kept my tone polite even though I strongly disagreed with his attitude of sneering derision.Xavier78 said:
Did I call him names? ... No.
Did I tell him he had no right to his opinion? ... No.
Did I tell him he was wrong? ... No.
Did I even point out the glaring strawman arguments and unfounded assumptions contained in his original post? ... No.
I simply told him that he was not making his argument any stronger by being rude, and that if he was really interested in discussing what he perceives as the decay of her work, commenting on one video probably isn't the most prudent place to detail his opinion of the entire arc of her carreer.
Both of those I still think are entirely valid points.
So, tell me again how I "attacked" him?
Or are you one of those people who view any dissention with the point of view you hold as being some sort of personal attack? Because that seems to be the only reasonable conclusion to draw, particularly when you basically are also telling the artist that she didn't even have the right to respond to his insults, or defend herself and her work. That is ridiculous and borderline irrational.
(Also, pro-tip: El Pup didn't 'speak the truth', he was stating his personally-held opinion... I have an opinion myself: El Pup seems to be a reasonably smart dude, but he needs to stop using insults when he wants to have a serious discussion, else he just looks like he's still in grade school. Both of us expressed our opinions.)
"Yahtzee is a British-born, currently Australian-based writer and gamer with a sweet hat and a chip on his shoulder"El pup said:
Says so under each and every Zero Punctuation video.So do a little more research,and that wall-o-text that you made could have been something that I would have taken seriously.
This doesn't sound like anything rebecca mayes has done before
OH WAIT YES IT DOES ALL HER SONGS SOUND THE SAME.
OH WAIT YES IT DOES ALL HER SONGS SOUND THE SAME.
I didn't enjoy that 'love' song Ms. Mayes, especially after I gave you an honest three cents about my admirations of what Yahtzee does (since you asked for that from the community...you know, the message you replied to me with a thankyou about?) You seem to do the same exact thing as Yahtzee, but to a whimsical beat and yet you critisize his intention and character. You yourself negatively critique games on the whole, and pat few games or concepts on the back when they accomplish something you like (like Yahtzee on his Batman review or your guitar hero song). But rather than help a fellow contributing Escapist like you originally stated as your intention, you attack him and consider it good form to desire a reply. They have a word for that...it's called trolling. Never heard it in song form however. That song alone has soiled the idea's presented in this song for me, and I do see you off the hop in a more negative light. I don't see what gives you the right to take moral high ground in regards to the message of this song (with making peace vs war) when seemingly malitious deception is what you have recently accomplished, in a very self promoting way might I add. Was it your intentension of choosing sound wave (decepticon) as an irony to this?
Moraly this has been very dissappointing for me. My image of you as a free spirit is totally blown and now I find your actions and lyrics highly hypocritical.
(and yeah, I understand the concept of using criticism to mirror Yahtzee to possibly gain a mutual respect...but it's lost on me when regarding these larger issues presented)
Hope you take from this and understand my own animosity, and possibly other escapists, as it is my intension to convey an articulate and calm outlook of dissappointment, rather than an attack...and if not, perhaps you arent so far down the life path(s) as you may have presumed.
-Sam
Moraly this has been very dissappointing for me. My image of you as a free spirit is totally blown and now I find your actions and lyrics highly hypocritical.
(and yeah, I understand the concept of using criticism to mirror Yahtzee to possibly gain a mutual respect...but it's lost on me when regarding these larger issues presented)
Hope you take from this and understand my own animosity, and possibly other escapists, as it is my intension to convey an articulate and calm outlook of dissappointment, rather than an attack...and if not, perhaps you arent so far down the life path(s) as you may have presumed.
-Sam