Revenge of the Fallen Makes $200 Million

theultimateend

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sallene said:


Here, I brought this since i figured everyone else was bringing so much whine.


Oh no, a michael bay movie made money, BFD.



People always act so butt-hurt about this shit its rediculous.

We live in a country where almost as many people(if not more) vote for american idol than do elections of goverment officials, Where consumerism is king and we are fed a steady diet of what we should be buying/watching/reading next to be cool/in touch.



I at least realize for what it is, I went, I turned off my higher brain functions for an afternoon and settled down to some explosions and giant robots and big guns and pew pewness.

When I want to see something serious and though provoking there are a number of indie films that are backlogged that I have yet to get too but the american cinema has forever been about escapsim, which I find it ironic that people are bitching about escapism on a site called the escapist.


If you look back to the 50s and 60s to the really bad sci-fi movies that were making money its not hard to see why movies like transformers 2 are successful regardless of quality or what critics say about them. Let people have their escapism without getting twisted out of shape. This does not affect you in any physical or emotional way(except in the drama queen "their raping my childhood" argument).



Hell, at least michael bay doesnt diddle drugged up 13 year olds, though maybe if he did he would turn out a masterpeice like the pianist and get an academy award like polanski has.


Sorry, this is getting a bit rantish and I apologize for that, but this bitching about transformers is getting about as old hat as all the douchbaggery sympathy outpouring for michael jackson.



Is transformers 2 a masterpeice? No
Will it win any awards for the story? No
Will it make lots of money like it was specifically made to do? yes.


Dont like it, dont watch it. Although with this at least I am sure that all the transformer worriers now know what it feels like for all the trekkers that were crying a river over the abrams star trek.
I always thought it was funny when someone whines about people whining.

Something in that whole mechanism just seems a bit extra funny to me.
 

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jeez, Transformer might not be the most insightful thing in the world or true to the animated series (whatever that means seeing as it was a cartoon for kids), but it was a damn entertaining adventure.

Relax, it's the summer and what better way to enjoy it then with a film the caliber of transformers?
 

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nilcypher said:
...Paramount and Hasbro are probably grinning like Cheshire Cats right now...
Sorry, they made me.

nilcypher said:
It looks like Revenge of the Fallen is well on its way to being the biggest movie of the year, a title currently held by the new Star Trek movie, which grossed $246 million in seven weeks.
Until Harry Potter comes out, of course.

Anyway, I didn't like the movie. It may have been something to do with me getting there just before it started, and having to sit in the front row, but I think not. I would say there are a few elements that threw me off. One, is that it was pretty darned long. Two, too much teen angst/crappy romantic comedic-ness. And, lastly, not enough focus on the Transformers/misrepresented transformers. They made all the coolest ones have the smallest, least important roles. Such as Soundwave and Devastator. Oh, and...
Dead transformers bringing the main character back to life? Is that actually canon?
That is about it. I mainly just tried to concentrate on the good robot fights, and ignore the rest; and I managed to stay awake.
 

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Dead transformers bringing the main character back to life? Is that actually canon?
Do you really think that they actually did? Wasn't that scene obviously a fever vision?
 

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We'll both be weeping, brother, I didn't know there were that many people who were into insipid boom fests and testicles on robots.
I have only one thing to say to that and it is this " Truck nuts".
Warning the sheer stupidity of this page could result in blindness, suicide, blood vomit, and mental retardation.
http://www.thatsnutz.com/truck-nuts-c-65.html
 

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People just can't tell the difference between quality and crap anymore. Every year the movies seem to get worse and worse just like the video games. I'm sure the people who think transformers 2 is a good movie are the same people that think fallout 3 is a good game.
I enjoy Fallout 3 because I don't have a biased, Bullshit comparison from the first two games, the same deal goes for the Transformer movies I liked them both because I wasn't nostalgic seeing as how I haven't seen the cartoons as a child.
 

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Great, another franchise ruined and more money for Michael Bay. Now I kinda wished Uwe Boll had beaten the crap out of him.
 

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Well, I saw the movie yesterday and really enjoyed it. I have little to no connection to Transformers from my childhood, so I wasn't upset about Devastator or anything.

As a movie in the traditional definition of the word it was abysmal, obviously, but as a huge brainfuck of non-stop visual stimuli, I don't think it could have been better. Some of the best action sequences Bay has ever shot, neverending over-the-top ridiculousness, and great looking robots and explosions - Bay really went batshit crazy with himself making this movie, and I was totally satisfied with it.

Really, my way of approaching a movie like this is to think of it like Fantasia or Yellow Submarine - no, there's no coherence, no structure to the thing - it's just a trip.

So yeah, that being said, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who isn't as crazy or stupid as me when it comes to this kind of stuff.
 

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Okay, taken on their own merits the movies are not that bad. Taken in the context of the old Transformers and the associated lore, it's heresy. I think a lot of the outcry is over people trying to be aggressively PC "Omg, ethnic seeming robots for comedy relief. Best cry out before someone starts screaming 'it's the crows from Felix The Cat'".

Overall, I can't blame Shia. He doesn't write the scripts, and does an okay job acting. Truthfully if someone paid me what he was probably getting I'd come out and assault any franchise they wanted, no matter how banal the plot, or what they wanted me to do.

Yes, it was a "put your brain in neutral" movie that makes little sense. I mean like for example I see why there is such a big deal over taking out the sun over earth. Okay, I got the fact that they were only supposed to extinguish uninhabited solar systems, and there was disagreement over it. But again, unless there is a shortage of uninhabited systems why does this become more than an academic point, especially if you need to build huge honking machines to do it? I mean all "The Fallen" had to do was go visit Alpha Centurai (presumably) and he would have gotten plenty of energy without needing to fight this stupid war (yet) and on top of that why is a key to a doomsday machine "The Matrix Of Leadership" when Earth is only one minor front in an ongoing civil war? Why is Prime the last "Prime" under these circumstances... really it IS pretty bad.

However if you don't think about this too much (like a lot of other action movies) you pretty much get what your paying for. Criticize Michael Bay all you want, but the bits with metal crushing robots fighting each other aren't bad, and honestly he DID listen from the first movie because I had no problem seeing what was going on.

But then again, I'm also a 34 year old who enjoys watching old Godzilla movies with guys in rubber suits fighting each other. I've even got one (Godzilla Vs. Megalon) which has Godzilla tagging off to Jet Jaguar pro-wrestling style when the fight a 2 Vs. 2 battle against other giant monsters.

I can get into mindless sci-fi violence held together by a chain of logic so thin it could be breached by a stiff wind. Judged as an action movie, this really isn't any worse than say "Predator" and it's spin offs (stop and think about that one some time).

Now granted, Michael Bay probably should have used some of his pyrotechnics budget to hire a better plot writer, especially given the screen time he gives the human characters. But I guess like a lot of people when I see giant robots kicking the crud out of each other I'm a kid again, and like watching the guys in rubber suits I forget about the justification. It's nice if it's there, but honestly... we have giant bloody robots beating the crud out of each other.

Oh, and as far as the military being fairly effective when it gets moving, I thought that was actually a nice change. It was actually done well as opposed to the American remake of Godzilla where he was taken down by a couple of jets (since there was only one Godzilla). It also makes sense, because giant robots aside, being hit by a bunch of anti-tank shells designed to punch through armor is not something they would logically shrug off.

Plus I also think back to banal things like "GI Joe Vs. The Transformers" (I kid you not, it was a comic) so I could kind of see it. :)

I could have gone with more use of Devestator, and missing the testicle jokes, but hey, you can't have everything. Michael Bay should have had the Autobots pull out the Protectobots and Defensor (the Police Cars that did the same thing which I believe was supposed to be Devestator's opposite number... it's been a while and I don't remember all the toys or names) and had another huge brawl. But then again most of the budget he could have used hiring writers was probably spent on making things explode (or look like they are exploding) so adding more robot brawls was not on his list of priorities... though honestly the Robot Brawls are kind of what made this movie watchable and doubtlessly why it's making so much money.

Again, giant robots duking it out is cool. Mindless, but cool. :)

>>>----Therumancer--->
 

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I feel so bad for actually being one of these people that saw it and paid for it. I saw a midnight show for it. Worse then the Watchmen midnight show. Ugh, sooooo baddd.....
 

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The Great JT said:
Rust in peace, Transformers. And Michael Bay, the world isn't big enough for you to hide in from the scorn of the faithful TRUE (and by that I mean animated) Transformers fans for your wreched abominations you dare to call movies.
Umm, I'm kinda a true fan (hell Optimus was my first death experience as a youngen') and I liked the movie. I'm not scorn by this. I like the new Soundwave.
 

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PurpleRain said:
The Great JT said:
Rust in peace, Transformers. And Michael Bay, the world isn't big enough for you to hide in from the scorn of the faithful TRUE (and by that I mean animated) Transformers fans for your wreched abominations you dare to call movies.
Umm, I'm kinda a true fan (hell Optimus was my first death experience as a youngen') and I liked the movie. I'm not scorn by this. I like the new Soundwave.
I concur, although I didn't like the movie, that response is a little overwrought.
 

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Gamer137 said:
I am not a Transformers fan, and I have not seen this movie. But I do have an indirect hatred for these movies. The more popular these get, the more popualar giant robot movies will get in America. This means that it raises the chance of the live action Evangelion movie being made. After reading this, I am more afraid that it will happen.
good help us let I really don't like the thought of anime becoming a live action movie that's what makes anime unique the fact that Japan never had enough money to make a big budget action movie well they do now but they sure as hell didn't in the 90's that was are silent agreement they gave us all there awesome anime and they get are awesome movie's
 

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some where movie bob is crying ARE YOU HAPPY BAY are you happy good god man how many days till Inglorious Bastards again god for every Tarantino there a Micheal bay or Brett Ratner proving that you can make a shitty movie and make Millions
 

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That is it!!! No more tears!!! I am joining Stan, Kyle and Tweak to end this raping of my childhood.
 

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Good for them, it's an alright movie with plenty of action and good special effects. I can't wait till my net is un-capped so I can watch what absurd points MovieBob has about this movie.