Review: Civilization V

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Review: Civilization V

It?s not your grandpappy?s Civilization, but it?s the best one in a long while.

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Eric the Orange

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can't wait my friend, can not wait.


Though admittedly I'm an old school Civ fan. i never played Civ 3 or 4. But I still play 2 to this day. I hope that the changes of over 10 years of development don't put me off.
 

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Bah... I hate having to wait a full week for this.

And I'll need to install a new processor by then... Damn it.
 

Rad Party God

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Damn it, from Steam: "This game will unlock in approximately 3 days and 22 hours"

I'm seriously thinking on freezing myself in time... 21st can't come soon enough >.<'.
 

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I normally don't get preorders, or even games at full price, usually waiting for a good Steam sale instead. But I did preorder Civ V and can't wait to play it.
 

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I want this game so badly, but i dont have a computer that cna run it... NOOOO I am a massive civilization fan, I mean epic that is the one game I woudl pick if I could only play one more game for the rest of my LIFE!!! I buy anything ol' Sid puts his name on and have yet to be disappointed.
 

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SupahGamuh said:
Damn it, from Steam: "This game will unlock in approximately 3 days and 22 hours"

I'm seriously thinking on freezing myself in time... 21st can't come soon enough >.<'.
Don't do it! The freezer might fail to wake you on time and you could be trapped, thousands of years into the future, in a society where no computer runs archaic Windows games anymore, never to play Civilization V.

A fate worse than death.
 

BlueInkAlchemist

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Wow. After this review, I have to say this is the most I've wanted to play a Civ game since playing hotseat Civ II with my Dad. Good times... good times. :)
 

BreakfastMan

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Woah! Didn't know the game was coming out this soon! Dang, I really want to play this game now. *mumbles about crappy computer and lack of funds*
 

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At first I wanted to get this real back, but now I heard they'll include some civs and scenarios in paid DLCs.. I don't really want to pay for downloads to get my game complete :| If I have to do that, I rather just buy an expansion pack in store. Or perhaps they'll do it the valve way ._. I really hope they do. I'll wait how this goes before I buy this one. I loved CIV IV though.
 

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Some niggling problems were fixed outright. It always bugged me in previous Civs that you were rewarded for building roads in every single tile. In Civ V, roads and some other improvements have a maintenance cost so you need to pick and choose what your workers build wisely. Thankfully, you don't have to connect each resource with a road anymore, merely building the corresponding improvement within your borders does the trick. Finding strategic resources Iron and Horses is doubly important now because each resource only lets you build a finite number of units. For example, building a mine on an Iron tile might only net you two Iron, from which you can only build two Swordsmen. It's a brilliant system, because it forces the kind of strategic decisions that Civ is all about.
YES!!! This is always what I wanted to see in a Civ game. No roads on every tile is a nice touch, but I always hated it how having access to a single resource gave you an unlimited supply to it. Especially in the later stages in the game with modern resources like oil and uranium. We all know how important oil is in the real world, but in past Civ's all you or the AI's needed to do was secure one obscure oil patch and they could build all the tanks/jets/battleships they wanted. Now securing multiple resources will actually become strategic!

There's two other nitpicks I've always had that I wonder if they did anything with:

1. Difficulty levels. The way it's always worked in Civ you the player have on difficulty slider to move up and down, but behind the scenes there are two: one to gives bonuses to the AI, one to handicap the human player. So by increasing the difficulty, you simultaneously make the AI stronger while handicapping yourself, why can't you just choose to do one or the other? I always end up looking for stronger AI opponents, but hate the handicaps that get applied to my Civ at the same time. I feel like the only one though so doubt this changes in Civ V, but maybe I can mod it...

2. Take it or leave it Diplomacy demands. I tend to play with a lot of Civ's, so it gets tough to keep track of who's friendly with who. So it's a pain in the ass when my turn comes up, and AI Civ 1 demands I stop trading with AI Civ 2, I can't stop and check how this will effect AI Civ's 3-16 depending on who's friends with who. Rather you have to Accept or Reject on the spot, and can't proceed until you do. Why can't you minimize the window and leave the diplomacy offer standing, and give an offer when you're done your turn?

In addition to the resource thing, if these happen to be taken care of as well then Civ V will be perfect for me.
 

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Giant Death Robot!!!

Cant wait for Civ V! GOing to be epic!
 

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You talking about the game made me want to play it.
STOP RUBBING IT IN OUR FACES ._.

It's all pre-loaded on my PC and waiting for the unlock. Such a huge tease.

Civ IV it is.
 

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Recommendation: Go to Steam and buy it right now. Do it.
Done!

Well, I'd done it a few hours ago anyway, but if anything, this review has reinforced my expectations.

It's all pre-loaded and ready to go!
 

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Unfortunately, my computer can't run it. I'm stoked for the hex grid and revamped combat/resource system, tho. Hopefully sometime next year I can upgrade and check this out.

Nice to see an actual review of the system this time. I wasn't wowed by the "I am Hiawatha, chief of the Iroquois" story-telling "review" thingy a little while back.

In Civ 4's defense, you didn't have to build roads everywhere in that iteration either. Well, you had to connect resources to cities, and mines/lumbermills benefited from railroads, but.. yeah. Civ 5 does sound like an improvement; I guess I just really like Civ 4 (and I liked the religion system in Civ 4.. its removal for Civ 5 is probably the one thing that bums me out).
 

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Preloaded and making me sad that I can't touch it. CURSE YOU PRELOAD STEAM CURSE YOOOOOOOOOU!
 

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Wow, it looks like this is one of the first Civilization V reviews out there. Neither Gamespot or IGN have one up yet, and Metacritic only shows two. Looks like The Escapist's coming up in the gaming media world.

Also I'm very glad, and somewhat received, to see the game is getting good reviews. I only started playing Civilization with IV, so you couldn't really call me a long-time fan, and I wasn't sure Civ V would be new enough to be worth buying, but I went ahead and preordered it on Steam anyway. So I'm glad to see it looks like a good choice.
 

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I shouldn't have read that. I've just dug up Civ IV for a last hurrah, but now I'm thinking that it's not going to compare to this glorious image of Civ V that's in my head. Oh well, hopefully it'll fill the void.

There is just so much to look forward to, I can't remember the last time I was so excited for a game coming out.
 

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RandV80 said:
Why can't you minimize the window and leave the diplomacy offer standing, and give an offer when you're done your turn?
I don't know if the same demands will be all over the place, but I do know that Civ V isn't supposed to have that sort of immediate response thing happening. Instead, alerts will show up in a queue that you'll have to resolve to end your turn. That's the impression I got from some of their pre-release materials at least.
 

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I bought it already, its preloaded, i even bought the stupid deluxe edition even though there is little "deluxe" about it.

Greg: thank you for letting us know that this is your favorite Civ to date. I've read all your articles on the game subject thus far, and this was the last question I had. I've been a Civ 2 person throughout the years, and not a single advance excites me more than the end of the stack of doom.

I'm taking tuesday off work, probably wednesday. Hey, im a senior grad student writing papers rather than working in the lab-- I HAVE THIS OPTION.

procyonlotor said:
Did someone mention Alpha Centauri?

There really needs to be a sequel.
Well, get modding sir. Shouldn't be hard to modify the tilesets and create a new alpha centauri right here on top of Civ V. Thats the beauty of both Civ and the PC platform. You want it? IT CAN BE YOURS.
 

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Tiamat666 said:
SupahGamuh said:
Damn it, from Steam: "This game will unlock in approximately 3 days and 22 hours"

I'm seriously thinking on freezing myself in time... 21st can't come soon enough >.<'.
Don't do it! The freezer might fail to wake you on time and you could be trapped, thousands of years into the future, in a society where no computer runs archaic Windows games anymore, never to play Civilization V.

A fate worse than death.
Hello, Civilization LXXXIV
 

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Serious question (sorry if it sounds like trolling - it's not meant to):
The last Civ game that I liked was Civ2 (which, IMO, has only been surpassed by Alpha Centauri).

I played Civ3 - it made me want to claw my own eyes out (something about swarms of swordmen constantly taking out my helicopters).

I played Civ4 - it only made me want to heavily scratch my eyes - still didn't like it, though. Combat was still a mess, IMO, and the trade and diplomacy was ridiculous (the PC would never seem to accept fair deals, regardless of culture)

So, given that I loved Civ2, but pretty much hated Civ3 and Civ4, will I like this game or not?

Thanks in advance!
 

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So, I'm assuming that kid in school gave you a legally purchased copy. =p
 

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Yep, thsi christmas I'm hoping it goes on Steam Sale.

I enjoyed Civ 3: The first and last one I played.

Seriously, with rome TW, Starcraft II and Knights ofthe Old Republic(bought for 2.50) I can wait til' then
 

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Greg Tito said:
Review: Civilization V

It?s not your grandpappy?s Civilization, but it?s the best one in a long while.

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Sir, while thermonuclear war may be a game, the consequences are no joke. Seriouslly though, looks like I've got two digital games to pick up this weekend now that I know about Minecraft.
 

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Greg Tito said:
Go to your local game store and buy it right now. Do it.
Fixed. A legendary game like this deserves shelf space. That way, you will have something to play when the apocalypse comes. :p

Anyway, thank you for the review. This finally titled me towards waiting to get a new PC and buy this rather than buy the complete version of Civ IV. This just seems like an overall better game.
 

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I can't believe they improved the nuke animation, I didn't think that was possible.

<3 <3 <3

By the way, how's the music?
 

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iamjonah said:
So, given that I loved Civ2, but pretty much hated Civ3 and Civ4, will I like this game or not?

Thanks in advance!
That's a good question, iamjonah. Civ and Civ 2 fell under the same problems that you describe for Civ 3 and Civ 4, I believe. At least in my games, spearmen beat tanks (or swordsmen beat helicopters) a lot more in the earlier games than in Civ 3 or 4. Still, Civ V's combat feels completely different and more tactical, so hopefully your eyes will stay intact.

The diplomacy system is similar to Civ 4, easier difficulty levels like Chieftain or Warlord allows for easier trading but once you play on Prince, I'm afraid that other Civs are just as stingy as you describe.

Not sure if that's what you wanted to hear, but that's what I thought. Let me know if you have any more questions.
 

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Giant..
Death..
Ro-
*chaching*
Yeah, I'm more sold than ever..
 

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Fearzone said:
So, I'm assuming that kid in school gave you a legally purchased copy. =p
Um, right. Sure he did.

This was before I figured out that pirating was bad. I've since grown up quite a bit, but I'm glad I was able to play Civ when I did. I'm hooked.
 

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Supp said:
By the way, how's the music?
It's awesome and Civilization specific. I just noticed as I played during lunch today that the music playing as the Americans was the melody from "America the Beautiful."
 

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You made me reinstall Civilization IV since Civ V isn't out here yet.

I just played it for 4 hours straight. Civilization should be classed as an addictive drug.
 

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MurderousToaster said:
You made me reinstall Civilization IV since Civ V isn't out here yet.

I just played it for 4 hours straight. Civilization should be classed as an addictive drug.
Same thing here. Played the Civ IV for about 4 hours, can't wait for the Civ V. There should be Civ Addiction Centers.
 

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minotaur199 said:
MurderousToaster said:
You made me reinstall Civilization IV since Civ V isn't out here yet.

I just played it for 4 hours straight. Civilization should be classed as an addictive drug.
Same thing here. Played the Civ IV for about 4 hours, can't wait for the Civ V. There should be Civ Addiction Centers.
The worst thing was that if there was a longer time setting than Marathon, I'd still be playing it right now.
 

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Supp said:
I can't believe they improved the nuke animation, I didn't think that was possible.

<3 <3 <3

By the way, how's the music?
I'd like to see what they followed up Baba Yetu with, that was such an epic song.
 
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Too bad it's not out for Mac yet :( (and hopefully will be)
Oh well, I started playing Minecraft yesterday, that should scratch that "5 more minutes" hitch till I can get Civ 5.
 

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Bought the Deluxe edition on Steam and already pre-loaded it on to my laptop. I feel a sick day coming on already.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Mysnomer said:
Good, now they need to update Alpha Centauri, and I'm there.
Oh and how!

Spartan Recon Rover vs. Locusts of Chiron. Yes please!
I always play as the Spartans, Santiago is so cool. I got stomped by the Hive last time I played, though... ;_;
 

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I've played all the Civ games, so pre-ordered without a review. One of the few titles for which I would do such a thing.

Though can I be a pedant about the review..

"...now that I no longer leave my capital building nothing for a few turns."

Eh? That line make no sense to me.
 

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Really looking forward to this. I also just reinstalled Civ IV to play while waiting for V. Doesn't come out till the friday in Europe. Just played a game that lasted 3hours, I'd forgotten how addictive it was.
 

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This is such an epic series and I am so jazzed at this latest installment continuing the high quality.

Civ has always been one of the jewels of PC gaming. I'm so looking forward to this one.

Concise video review too.
 

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My biggest problem with Civ4 was that there were a million different combat units and I didn't really care whether one of them has a 1% damage bonus against enemies who wear blue uniforms or whatever. Has this been alleviated at all in Civ5? They really should just have one light, one heavy, and one ranged per era.
 

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Greg Tito said:
Fearzone said:
So, I'm assuming that kid in school gave you a legally purchased copy. =p
Um, right. Sure he did.

This was before I figured out that pirating was bad. I've since grown up quite a bit, but I'm glad I was able to play Civ when I did. I'm hooked.
My first taste of Civilization was similar; a friend from our D&D club gave me a CD. Since no one had a copy of the rules we'd share what we found out about how to play the game every gaming session. :)
 

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God damnit, its going set to release here in the UK until last. NOOOOOO!
 

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blalien said:
My biggest problem with Civ4 was that there were a million different combat units and I didn't really care whether one of them has a 1% damage bonus against enemies who wear blue uniforms or whatever. Has this been alleviated at all in Civ5? They really should just have one light, one heavy, and one ranged per era.
Mmm, I strongly disagree. As a Civ veteran, this would be simply devestating to the game. A game with the title 'Civilization' isn't supposed to be a simple paper-scissors-rock affair, and it's sheer complexity is one of the things that Civ lovers adore about the game. I suggest however that if you are interested in a simpler version of Civ, you invest in 'Civilization Revolution', on the Xbox360. PC hardcore Civ gamers thought it was a disgrace, but it might actually appeal to you, and if you're happy with it, then good on ya :)
 

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Nice review, thanks for the info... Also the first review supplement I've watched on the Escapist.

Only thing I want to say is that when you tried to be funny it came off as pretty lame. Particularly the last comment where you pretended to be sick. Humor is subjective though as they say...
 

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Greg Tito said:
That's a good question, iamjonah. Civ and Civ 2 fell under the same problems that you describe for Civ 3 and Civ 4, I believe. At least in my games, spearmen beat tanks (or swordsmen beat helicopters) a lot more in the earlier games than in Civ 3 or 4. Still, Civ V's combat feels completely different and more tactical, so hopefully your eyes will stay intact.
Thanks for the reply.

I do really enjoy tactical compat in TBSs (I still play Master of Orion 2), so maybe I'll check this out.

Thanks again!!!
 

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blalien said:
My biggest problem with Civ4 was that there were a million different combat units and I didn't really care whether one of them has a 1% damage bonus against enemies who wear blue uniforms or whatever. Has this been alleviated at all in Civ5? They really should just have one light, one heavy, and one ranged per era.
Not really. Civ V continues the trend, especially with the modern units.

In the early eras, it's much more simple and it mean more. For example, spearmen get a 100% bonus against any cavalry units, so the niggling small bonuses are gone.

Int he modern era, it's a lot more counter-based, as I mentioned in the review. Destroyers counter subs, subs counter battleships, battleships counter destroyers, etc. But that makes for a varied army (and finally a useful navy!) so it didn't bother me.
 

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Thanks for the great review! I'm definitely going to get this one, but can someone tell me if the "Deluxe" version is worth the extra $10? Should I assume that the Babylon Civilization will just turn into DLC after launch?
 

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Lucas_90 said:
blalien said:
My biggest problem with Civ4 was that there were a million different combat units and I didn't really care whether one of them has a 1% damage bonus against enemies who wear blue uniforms or whatever. Has this been alleviated at all in Civ5? They really should just have one light, one heavy, and one ranged per era.
Mmm, I strongly disagree. As a Civ veteran, this would be simply devestating to the game. A game with the title 'Civilization' isn't supposed to be a simple paper-scissors-rock affair, and it's sheer complexity is one of the things that Civ lovers adore about the game. I suggest however that if you are interested in a simpler version of Civ, you invest in 'Civilization Revolution', on the Xbox360. PC hardcore Civ gamers thought it was a disgrace, but it might actually appeal to you, and if you're happy with it, then good on ya :)
I'll probably just wait for the price drop. I definitely played enough Civ4 to justify the $15 price tag on Steam.
 

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Too bad it's not out for Mac yet :( (and hopefully will be)
Oh well, I started playing Minecraft yesterday, that should scratch that "5 more minutes" hitch till I can get Civ 5.
Yeah, I'm pretty pissed about that myself. Nice, Sid, can't do a dual release like the Blizzard folks?
 

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It doesn't look more demanding than civ IV. Why so high system requirements?:( Won't be getting this any time soon, but as soon as I get a new laptop...
 

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Good review. I was going to wait until later when more solid info was available, but--dammit!--now you've gone and made me buy it.
 

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Waiting for a Steam sale. Sadly, I can't afford to buy all of the great games coming out in the next month. The reason I'm not buying it sooner is that I'll be too busy in the next while to get drawn into 10-hour games of Civ.

At PAX, I made an appointment to see the game in a sealed room full of people. Within a minute, it was the first time I'd ever heard 30 people gasp simultaneously, and then we just sat in awe for the rest of the presentation.
 

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Not going to buy the game as it is obvious that half the civs are being witheld for down loadable ripoff.

I'll wait a year or 2 until all the 'rape packs' that were done 6 months ago are sold as an ass fucking of the year addition.

You support this shitty business model, you get more of it.
 

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That looks really fun!

My only experience with Civ has been about 30 minutes with a friend about 10 years ago (and I don't even know which one that was), but I still really want it...
 

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For $80au I think I'll sit this one out...because it's steam locked and I can't even properly import it :\ I'll consider it when it's priced a little more reasonably.
 

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As of right now, from what i understand, there will be no hot seat at release date? is this a money grab or just laziness. Seeing how i am the exact opposite of an expert on computer game programing, to me it seems easy to add a hot seat option. maybe i am wrong, maybe not. is there anyone else who lost interest in this game when they found that out? me and several of my friends still play civ 4 hot seat. at least every other weekend. internet play is to disconnected, i do realize that most if not all games coming out lately are for internet play only, but i don't like internet play. you are still sitting in a room by yourself playing a game...alone. it seems sad to me frankly. my first experience playing civ was hot seat, sitting around with a bunch of friends, pizza, and almost a week without sleep. without hot seat this game will be so much less then it could have been. i really hope i am wrong. i have pre paid for the game quite some time ago, so i am stuck with it, but me and my friends will be playing civ 4 this weekend.(unless i am wrong and there is hot seat. I really hope i am)
 

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Tomorrow morning (on this side of the world) is the big day, so start calling in sick and cancel all your dates...
This may take longer than a few weeks...
 

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jabering said:
As of right now, from what i understand, there will be no hot seat at release date?(unless i am wrong and there is hot seat. I really hope i am)
No hotseat? Not good.

Still, all my Civ-capable friends have returned to university so it won't directly affect me 'til Christmas. I hope this isn't another example of the gaming industry forcing seclusion on gamers; it may be a lifestyle choice for some, but there is nothing better than drunken competitive computer gaming. Except drunken Risk in a dark, smoke hazed room. In full 19th century regalia
 

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Well, I think that a Civ review would be a lot more informative if it was done by somebody who's never played Civ before. Already having a firm grasp on it, makes it turn into more of a gush fest than a proper review.
 

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Well, it's official. I just spent slightly over $900 on this game.

Damn you Sid Meier! I was all set to leave PC gaming behind me, but noooooooo, you had to go and make my favorite game even better. Now I'm going to be spending all my paychecks on Steam for the next six months... starting as soon as I can force myself to put this game down, that is.
 

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i have to admit that i am surprised that only one person cares that hot seat seems to have been omitted. maybe its only a very small number of people that like the hot seat option. i am at work now, when i get home my copy of civ 5 awaits me. with luck i was totally misinformed and there is hot seat.
 

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This game is ready for download if you have Steam (and if you can get into the pipeline of everyone downloading it at the same time).
 

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Didn't get it today, I was hoping that th Steam live date in England would be the American release date. Alas, I was wrong.
 

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Guess it's time to sell a kidney. Hey, gaming is an expensive habit... DON'T JUDGE ME! Besides, I'm fairly sure one kidney can handle it. I mean, all I'll be doing for the next half a year is sit in a chair and drink Cola. Then again I do have bills to pay... Bah, I can always get a mechanical heart. TO THE TRANSPLANT CLINIC!



 

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They changed it so you don't get have to click though pop ups every turn and can deal with events in your own way? And made it so you don't plant a road on every tile? Man, is there anything in this game that is bad.

Ordered it on Amazon in the vain hope that it has a tech tree poster and decentish manual. I value these things with Civ games.
 

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More Fun To Compute said:
Ordered it on Amazon in the vain hope that it has a tech tree poster and decentish manual. I value these things with Civ games.
I finally got round to unpacking my games into my new house today, and I came across my Civ IV box. I got it off Steam so I could preload the thing, but when I remembered how nice it would be to have Civ5 sat next to 2/3/4 on my shelf I was like "awwww " :(
 

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Looks like a good review by a fan.
I'm waiting for my copy in the mail since Steam was more expensive (go figure, it's a steam game) I'm wondering how many hours i can squeeze in before Christmas.
 

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I'll wait for an expansion.

What this review doesn't tell is that the AI cannot handle the new combat at all. The old one could just manage with the brute force approach of civ4, but in civ5 wars against the AI are just too easy.
The game has also become more of a black box the "user-friendly" way it presents infomation. In civ4 you could if the other government was despotic or representative for example. You could see diplomatic modifiers.
Many of the tough decisions and gambits from civ4bts appear to be gone without anything to replace them.
 

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I just played the demo and I can't believe how addicting the damn thing still is. I mean, I played the ************ like crazy until I was rudely interrupted by a screen telling me to buy the damn thing. You don't need to remind me of something I will definitely be doing, Meyer.

I cannot wait to get it and start a grand campaign. It's goodbye to the fast paced, small scale RTS that is StarCraft 2 and welcome to the big scale, continent spanning, TBS that is Civilization V.
 

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I got the boxed dvd today and tried to install.
"unfortunately the game is not yet released, wait for 1 day and 5 hours to install and play"
One thing i do like, i got the card for the pre-order bonus cradle of civilization, middeterranian area. It's going to be fun.
 

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Pre-loaded from Steam last night (because it's cheaper).

I've only ever played one Civ game (though I can't tell you which). It was years ago and was off a borrowed CD. The shitty thing was that the disc was cracked (physically), so when I got to a point well into the game, it just stopped. I was heart broken and never started again, after all the work I'd done on my Civ. It was the first strategy game I'd played like it (other than Sim City) and really enjoyed it.

This review (and others I've since seen) sparked my interest in the game again, so I've gone out and got it with every intention of 'chucking a sickie' next week to have a day of play.

I'm now pretty excited, and cannot wait. The down side is the International Date Line... I don't think I get the game unlocked until Saturday morning (grand final day - c'arn the Saints!), which is a fault with Steam, in my opinion.
 

SimuLord

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Alpha Centauri is Civ 2 1/2. Revolution is non-canon. So it is indeed "the fifth game".
 

Tanis

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I hope this game can tide me over till GalCiv3 drops.

If it ever comes...
 

NotHisRealName

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So, despite the actual reality being that, for me, Friday 24th begins in a little over 5 hours, I'll be stuck at work all day until about 10am (15 hours from now) when my Friday actually begins. According to Steam, that is.

So, not only will my Friday begin 10 hours late, I'll be at work, unable to make the most of my Friday where I could be spending it playing Civ V, had I justification to have a sick day.

Right now, I'm not sure who I despise more; Work, or Steam.

Actually, I'm leaning toward hating Steam more because at least I get paid for going to work. Even if it does mean I'll be spending the next seven hours willing time to move just that little bit faster so I can get home and start playing (only to have my PC decide it's going to stop working again).
 

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I've played through the 100 turns the demo allows a couple times and I'm really liking this game. Time flies when I'm playing it.
 

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Playing Civ 5 gives me an odd feeling that I'm missing something, like playing Beyond the Sword and then playing CIV4 straight out of the box. I guess that's where the modding takes over.

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