This, by the sound of it I've heard darn near everywhere. It's seriously a massive turn off that they took one of the only strong female leads in video game history and jawjacked her character this way. I'll be sticking to older Metroid titles as a result, thanks.Mangue Surfer said:
Review: Metroid Other M
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I haft to say i am pleased with review.
It is much better than the OMG SAMUS ISNT A GURL HUNTER ANYMORE CHARACTER RUINED.
I haven't played it, but from talking to people who have and watching as much as i can of it, i know i will like it.
I knew it wouldn't be as good as the others but its still one of the better games on the wii.
And my problem with the story is that the game takes place so late in the series.
If it took place right after 2 then it would fit better, because i WANTED to see Samus come to terms with her past and her tragic childhood.
And if you want even more info on it then Read the Metroid Manga.
It IS Cannon.
And as for Adam....i think having her powers restricted by a man she looks to like a father is more believable than finding power up rooms that fit her Power Suit perfectly in the Space Pirates OWN bases.
He was her former CO, the Mission is His, her powers ARE dangerous, and Samus respects the hell out of him.
So i can understand her following his orders.
And this isn't the first time she has followed orders.
And after seeing the scenes people were screaming Ruined Samus...no.
They arnt that bad.
Samus still kicks HUGE amounts of ass thought the entire game.
One ehh game does not a character break.
It is much better than the OMG SAMUS ISNT A GURL HUNTER ANYMORE CHARACTER RUINED.
I haven't played it, but from talking to people who have and watching as much as i can of it, i know i will like it.
I knew it wouldn't be as good as the others but its still one of the better games on the wii.
And my problem with the story is that the game takes place so late in the series.
If it took place right after 2 then it would fit better, because i WANTED to see Samus come to terms with her past and her tragic childhood.
And if you want even more info on it then Read the Metroid Manga.
It IS Cannon.
And as for Adam....i think having her powers restricted by a man she looks to like a father is more believable than finding power up rooms that fit her Power Suit perfectly in the Space Pirates OWN bases.
He was her former CO, the Mission is His, her powers ARE dangerous, and Samus respects the hell out of him.
So i can understand her following his orders.
And this isn't the first time she has followed orders.
And after seeing the scenes people were screaming Ruined Samus...no.
They arnt that bad.
Samus still kicks HUGE amounts of ass thought the entire game.
One ehh game does not a character break.
20 seconds of being scared followed by SHOVING THE POWER CANNON DOWN HIS THROAT AND ALMOST KILLING HIM made you not want the game?Rocket Dog said:
Sure this fare in the series she should be over her fear. But this game was made to give insight into her past.
Im sure if you had seen Ridly eat your parents and destroy your home you would be scared too.
Pfahahaha.ZeroMachine said:
So her suit refilling her Ammo by just a few Missiles is stupider than Space Pirates having Power Suit Shaped Missile and Health Stations IN THEIR OWN BASES!?
And it only restores Health when your about to DIE.
Kind of like a Backup tank.
I'm talking from a gameplay section, so yes, yes it does. I loved the parts in Metroid where I had to up the ante big time in order to survive. That takes that intensity out of it.Gigaguy64 said:
*Yawn* another reveiw that bashes the award 1sty-person aiming mechanic and the bad characterization of Samus (She goes from being mute Badass to monotone melodramatic orphan who relies on her ex-boyfreind to figure out what to do next), well yeah some feature work but the game as a whole sound nowhere near as good as I had hoped, I'll be replaying Super Metroid in the mean time!
This is what makes her an effective silent protagonist, and why others fail to approach any sort of depth (especially the much lauded Gordon Freeman, who offers ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HIS OWN STORY).ZeroMachine said:(Sorry for double posting, for some reason my previous post hasn't shown up yet)
Actually, believe it or not, Samus's stoic and nearly unspeaking personality doesn't make her a blank slate. It's part of her character. Think about it:
Giving her a voice has proven to be a mistake, as executed.
Oh, and her Commanding Officer (Adam) is a total fucking idiot in Other M.
The "giving her a voice" thing? I disagree. In case you forgot, her first line in a video game was in none other than Super Metroid, the most highly praised Metroid game.Atmos Duality said:This is what makes her an effective silent protagonist, and why others fail to approach any sort of depth (especially the much lauded Gordon Freeman, who offers ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO HIS OWN STORY).ZeroMachine said:(Sorry for double posting, for some reason my previous post hasn't shown up yet
Actually, believe it or not, Samus's stoic and nearly unspeaking personality doesn't make her a blank slate. It's part of her character. Think about it:
Giving her a voice has proven to be a mistake, as executed.
Oh, and her Commanding Officer (Adam) is a total fucking idiot in Other M.
Making her an emo girl is what the problem is.
Wait, that robo-voice was supposed to be her??ZeroMachine said:
Oh, and I should have made it more clear; I don't like HOW Nintendo has presented Samus as a vocal character. Not necessarily that giving her a voice would have killed her character.
(She has voice quotes for her taunts in Smash Bros Brawl too).
... Um............ start a new game of Super Metroid. The prologue is spoken by her. Not necassarily with recorded lines, but when you're reading that, you're reading her own words. That means, for all intents and purposes, she is not a silent protagonist.Atmos Duality said:
Eh, that's stretching it a bit. Text-only dialogue still has an element interpretation to it.ZeroMachine said:
Two people might read the same book, but they will interpret a character's personality differently.
When you give a character a real physical voice, you are giving them the only possible "real" interpretation of that character's personality.
I had this discussion with my friend only yesterday. He said a lot of people perceived Samus as a cold-hearted, soft-speaking badass, and I disagreed, because I imagined there was a bit of panic and determination in her text dialogue in prior games (most notably Fusion).
Either way, I dislike how Other M presents Samus. I'm unsure whether this decision came from Nintendo (there are traces of this same inept voice acting and cutscene technique in Prime 3: Corruption) or Team Ninja.
I personally am not too keen on Other M. It just doesn't feel like a Metroid game to me, and that is the clincher. I disagree that the exploration and the game play outweigh it's flaws. I do think there are virtues with Other M, though I can't say for sure what that might be.
No he was not kidding.dududf said:
The example he gave is the most outragious one, were you spend a long time in lava filled caves takeing heat damage before your old commanding officer says
"hey samus why not trying out that heat-proof vera suit you've had with you this whole time"
same idea for all your other abilities
Also samus's voice in other M is enough to drive you mad, she will just not shut up...
For example, if you drank a beer every time she said "Baby" (refering to the baby metroid) in the opening cutsceen you would be dead before you got to any game play
Welp, guess it's time to play more Metroid Prime or Zero Mission, enjoy a GOOD Metroid game.
Fact is, an average Metroid game is, compared to the other games in the series, an absolute disappointment given the track record of the franchise, ESPECIALLY given the overall lack of stagnation in the Metroid titles until very recently.
Metroid really is (was?) the last great Nintendo franchise.
Fact is, an average Metroid game is, compared to the other games in the series, an absolute disappointment given the track record of the franchise, ESPECIALLY given the overall lack of stagnation in the Metroid titles until very recently.
Metroid really is (was?) the last great Nintendo franchise.
Well from what i keep being told, you still do haft to struggle a lot of the time.ZeroMachine said:
Especially during bosses where you will find NO time to charge.
even if you have the charge Time upgraded.
And when your fighting a boss that does 75% DMG to your life and the Restore only heals one tank.
Your likely to put off recharging until the fight is over.
i'm just going to block this one from memory and indulge my other favorite series (halo and others), and just hope that metroid dread:
get's made eventually,
isn't a prequel,
is a sequel to metroid fusion,
has samus portrayed as a silent protagonist (aside from inner monologues),
is made Nintendo itself,
does not acknowledge metroid: other m in any way shape or form,
is a sidescroller,
and is for a handheld system but does not force you to utilize gimmicks.
that is my hope. and i doubt that most, if any, of those will hopes come to pass.
get's made eventually,
isn't a prequel,
is a sequel to metroid fusion,
has samus portrayed as a silent protagonist (aside from inner monologues),
is made Nintendo itself,
does not acknowledge metroid: other m in any way shape or form,
is a sidescroller,
and is for a handheld system but does not force you to utilize gimmicks.
that is my hope. and i doubt that most, if any, of those will hopes come to pass.
