RIP PC gaming?

[dirk45]

In about ten years there will be a PC in the living room that is PC, BD player and recorder and console in one device. When XP is slowly phasing out game producers can start focusing on DX10 and DX11 so this makes programming easier. More and more games will have an online component which makes piracy less important. And when they finally find a way to standardize PC gaming power (i.e. your PC fulfills the Power Gaming 2008 criteria and the box says "Requires a Power Gaming 2007 PC or higher") momentum will swing back. Consoles will try to fight back by adding office and calendar functions and the systems will finally merge.

Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

 

[Aura Guardian]

EA has never have good Console to PC ports, and you seem to be forgetting, Consoles are susceptible to piracy too.

Modding a Wii seems to be all the rage. Haven't done that yet until I can get a used one.

 

[teisjm]

Also, you won't have to upgrade indeffinitely. I read somwhere (here) that dev's said that in max 10 years we'll have photo-realistic graphics, since most upgrades are required due to graphics we won't have to upgrade anymore once graphics reach their limit. Someone refered to it as the upcoming golden age of gaming, cause once they cannot enhance graphics anymore they'll have to focus on enhancing gameplay.

Ofc you could argue that upgrades would still be requied, like if the game is insanely much longer it'll take up more space on your harddisc, true but harddiscs are dirt cheep.
memory/RAM is cheep as well, and online games would be influenced by your connection speed more than your hardware.

Most gameplay upgrades would be limited by the designers/devs, and not the tecnology.
better story doesn't require more tec, better level design doesn't either. Same is true for balance (mainly in online games)

If computer gameing died major piracy would just move to the consoles, you can already get pirated game for just about every console on the market. I know a guy who's saving up for a chipped wii, and while he doesn't have the comsole yet he says that he has about 50 games for it already, prolly all pirated.

 

[Daveman]

It wont die out. Not as long as the market exists which will be forever.

You know what I think the future of PC gaming is. Bigger monitors. That said, there is a monitor cable input in the back of my 50 inch plasma. All I need is a usb hub with several controllers and some ported multiplayer games and decent local multiplayer will be possible.

So basically what there will be is a merging of PC and console styles of gaming. I mean that's been obvious since they put hard drives in consoles.

 

[tenlong]

In about ten years there will be a PC in the living room that is PC, BD player and recorder and console in one device. When XP is slowly phasing out game producers can start focusing on DX10 and DX11 so this makes programming easier. More and more games will have an online component which makes piracy less important. And when they finally find a way to standardize PC gaming power (i.e. your PC fulfills the Power Gaming 2008 criteria and the box says "Requires a Power Gaming 2007 PC or higher") momentum will swing back. Consoles will try to fight back by adding office and calendar functions and the systems will finally merge.


Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

 

[Jupsto]

mods. pc gaming cant really die out.

I wish I could agree since I love mods but how many companies actually release SDK?

valve...
bethesda...
who else?

 

[Nmil-ek]

In about ten years there will be a PC in the living room that is PC, BD player and recorder and console in one device. When XP is slowly phasing out game producers can start focusing on DX10 and DX11 so this makes programming easier. More and more games will have an online component which makes piracy less important. And when they finally find a way to standardize PC gaming power (i.e. your PC fulfills the Power Gaming 2008 criteria and the box says "Requires a Power Gaming 2007 PC or higher") momentum will swing back. Consoles will try to fight back by adding office and calendar functions and the systems will finally merge.


Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

As can the pc, hi hi emulators.

 

[Jupsto]

PC gaming has pushed forward all other gaming. The following genres on PC will NEVER be matched on a console:

FPS
RTS
RPG

I agree with FPS/RTS because nothing beats a mouse for controlling those games.

but why RPG? I might agree if you said MMORPG's (altho which are slowly going to consoles), but single player RPGs are just as good with a controller, infact better if they are are action orientated.

 

[tenlong]

In about ten years there will be a PC in the living room that is PC, BD player and recorder and console in one device. When XP is slowly phasing out game producers can start focusing on DX10 and DX11 so this makes programming easier. More and more games will have an online component which makes piracy less important. And when they finally find a way to standardize PC gaming power (i.e. your PC fulfills the Power Gaming 2008 criteria and the box says "Requires a Power Gaming 2007 PC or higher") momentum will swing back. Consoles will try to fight back by adding office and calendar functions and the systems will finally merge.


Biggest advantages of the PC: Anybody with a little know how can start programming a video game for the PC and - even more important - I can enter a ten year old CD into my PC and start the game. Try this with your PS1 games.

You can play ps1 on the ps3 .

As can the pc, hi hi emulators.

True but the ps3 does it right of the box running better than it did on the ps1. Emulators are sometimes laggy or low res. But if you got a really good one yeah. I have seen some emulators have problems running nes games.

 

[Crash486]

mods. pc gaming cant really die out.

I wish I could agree since I love mods but how many companies actually release SDK?

valve...
bethesda...
who else?

Epic Games as well. Those are really the best engines on the market anyway... who cares about other SDKs.

 

[Ushario]

*snip

Where do you get your information for the fact that programming for PC's is easier than for consoles? Programming for an XBox360 really couldn't get any easier, have you seen XNA?

How many XNA games have you played on Windows compared to games made in things like Flash, Blitz3d, Java, Gamemaker or even C++? Windows has much more choice than XBox and C#/XNA is not the best tool or dev community for all applications.

The number of games that have been created using XNA for PC isn't relevant to its ease of use.
How you arrived at this tangent of an 'argument' is beyond me.

C++ is probably the best tool for large scale games development but I believe that C#/XNA is extremely under used. This is starting to change as people see that a managed language can still provide performance in their games.

 

[khorgor]

Uhm. Use Steam (if you are from the US/England), Direct2drive or any other online shops to buy games.

Last time I checked, Gears of War 1 is 60 PLN, which is about $18.

Yea I'm from good old aussie land....
but yes. I need to buy stuff online a bit more. Its just I have really slow internet and cry at the thought of waiting a few months for said game to download 0.o

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

I'm going to say no... but the thing is I've got nothing to back it up...I just don't think its dead nor is it dying.

What he said.
If it does i shall be most unhappy, i have only recently seen the light of how pc gaming is so much more fun

 

[Viggo]

PC gaming will never die, you ignorant cesspool emerger... consoles are already half a PC..

next generation (or the one after that if we're very lucky/unlucky) will have turned them into full PCs... consoles are the ones dying here.. if they are lucky, they (who, lol) will be referred to as a fixed gaming-platform-pc (or you make up the name).

that or those guys with the vision of streaming games from the net so you're always up to date will emerge victorious...

my 2 and a half cents...

 

[Cuniculus]

It's hard to sound like you aren't saying the same thing everyone else is, but I'm going to anyway. PC gaming is just like every other single thing that can be pirated. Music, DVDs, software... it all gets pirated, and yes, it hurts the industry, but they find ways around it. They make iTunes for music, they make Netflicks for DVDs, and they make things like Steam and the EA download manager for PC games. They make it cheaper and easier to get games, music, etc from off of the internet, and eventually people just forget about limewire and go for the safer route that isn't loaded with viruses and spyware. Eventually they'll come out with some other way to combat PC game pirates, then the pirates will overcome that, then they'll make something else... and the cycle continues.

 

[Kif]

PC gaming will never die, you ignorant cesspool emerger... consoles are already half a PC..

Well now that's just plain mean for the sake of being mean, I'm on the PC's side and I commented on the second page that maybe they'll just merge into the same system as consoles are becomming increasingly PC like.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

*snip

Where do you get your information for the fact that programming for PC's is easier than for consoles? Programming for an XBox360 really couldn't get any easier, have you seen XNA?

How many XNA games have you played on Windows compared to games made in things like Flash, Blitz3d, Java, Gamemaker or even C++? Windows has much more choice than XBox and C#/XNA is not the best tool or dev community for all applications.

The number of games that have been created using XNA for PC isn't relevant to its ease of use.
How you arrived at this tangent of an 'argument' is beyond me.

C++ is probably the best tool for large scale games development but I believe that C#/XNA is extremely under used. This is starting to change as people see that a managed language can still provide performance in their games.

You say that development can't get any "easier" than XNA and I give you some examples where not only is development easier but there are many cases of developers who have a free choice in the matter choosing to use these platforms over XNA. If this argument is beyond you then I recommend staying out of similar discussions in the future. Toodle pip!

 

[Viggo]

Well now that's just plain mean for the sake of being mean, I'm on the PC's side and I commented on the second page that maybe they'll just merge into the same system as consoles are becomming increasingly PC like.

now you've made me feel bad about myself..

i are sorry for trying to hurt your feelins'

have a hearth

<3

from me to you

 

[TelHybrid]

Funny... I saw a forum thread exactly like this about 5 years ago... and many more since then...

Damn that PC is really taking its time dying...

 

[Swaki]

ill say that games such as fps, rts, flight simulators and mmorpgs will always feel superior on the pc, games as mmorpgs and flight simulators oblivious considering its rather impossible to play games of that sort on a console as they require 20+ buttons, but i feel that all games except racing games have and always will feel at home on the almighty pc, unfortunately game designers doesn't agree and will either never release the hot new games for the pc or when they finally get around to it they will release it without changing a thing, including the game manual, press a to open the menu, press select to change in game options, use the analog stick to move!, when you as me buy most your games via steam therefor not receiving the manual to help translate such terms to computer language it gets confusing.

pc gaming isn't dieing, but it has become the game industries bastard child who gets their beloved consoles old cloth and much less attention.