Rise for This Live Action Assassin's Creed III Trailer

[The Cheezy One]

well i just watched the trailer.. and now i feel compelled to go back to empire total war and wipe out those colonial upstarts and giving the land ack to the native peoples fear the red coat !

In the words of the original spy - from Red Alert - "For king and country"!

 

[jmarquiso]

I'm hoping the game introduces a third faction - the Freemasons (mentioned in a lot of the puzzles / etc from other games). They did have a hand in recruiting and creating the revolution, and was the primary arm to organize.

BTW, I'm not a conspiracy theorist that believes the freemasons are the be all end all of evil.

There's just a lot of great conspiracy theory (specifically anti-American conspiracy theory) in there to feed the rest of the fiction.

 

[Absimilliard]

Just going to leave this here:
http://kotaku.com/5918810/can-americans-not-handle-the-sight-of-their-ancestors-being-killed-in-assassins-creed

In summary: Every single thing in advertising and publicity so far has been anti-British, not just this trailer. The reason apparently being that Ubisoft thinks that Americans either can't cope with the idea of colonists being assassinated. Or would get confused by it, thinking Connor is fighting on the side of the Brits.

So just a bit condescending, then? And they only consider it a small problem that many fans worry that the story will be inferior to those of the previous instalments, which in itself makes me worry... It really wouldn't confuse anyone if they released a picture or two were a non-redcoat is assassinated, they should have some faith in the consumers. (Or come up with a better excuse...)
And no, I really don't want to just take their word for it that it's not jingoistic. I mean, seeing as I love the gameplay of the series, I'm probably going to buy it on the first day like a good little sheep, but it would be nice if I could do it without a feeling of dread with regard to the story...

 

[CrazyJew]

Ahem. Let me just turn on this metronome...

AMERICUH! FUCK YEAH!

 

[The Cheezy One]

From watching this trailer I can only assume the actual events occurred something like this:

In the Second Era of Man. At the end of the seventh century a great shadow was cast over the Eastern American Coast. King George the Third had forged a dark and evil tax. A tax which would rule all taxes before it. Valiantly the Colonials refused education, exporting goods, demanded political representation and decided to rise up.

Sensing the rebellion against his rule the Dark lord gathered his armies in the East, across the deep seas he amassed his horde. He gathered the vilest of creatures and the most despicable of men to his cause. The Irish, The British, The Welsh, The Germans. All abominations of nature headed his call. Thus the Black Ships set sail. To bring death and destruction to America.

Getting a Lord of the rings vibe from your comment:
Change middle-earth to America, and it kinda fits.

What is this? Seriously people? Come on. This is borderline fucking ridiculous. I get it it's a 4th of July advertisement, of course it's going to play to American patriotism to get them to buy the game. But this?

It's so bad it's almost good. No no scrap that. It's so bad it's almost like EA made it. If you told me this was an EA add I'd believe you.

"It's so bad it's almost like EA made it"
...Is going to be a quote of mine

The fact that Connor is mostly anti British wouldn't bother me so much, except when you pick up a history book and see the Cherokees, supporting Britain. Guess what our little Connor is? Yep, half Cherokee. If anything Connor would be siding with the British first, Americans second.

I'd like to say that he is picking sides based on his loyalty to assassins first, country second, but we haven't had ANY indication as to what his mission/true opponent is, so we can only assume it's based on country, and then that falls into the massive historical plot whole. He's also half English, according to the wikipedia page. Not too sure what that means.

I will just continue being amused by Ubisofts marketing department wanking of the big old american patriot cock. I just hope that after all this pandering they just do a complete 180 in the game and we get to see Americans taking to the forums complaining about how the game gave a fair depiction of both sides rather than portraying the Americans as complete saints.

Ouch. The burn wasn't even aimed at me and I could feel the heat from here.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Did I just watch a game trailer or a propaganda video from a few hundred years ago?

This series isn't even made my Americans.

 

[The Cheezy One]

Haha, the comments in this thread are among the funniest I have seen. They released that trailer yesterday because it was Independence Day in America. People on the internet can be really really thick headed when it comes to Anti-American sentiment.

I don't know why people are having such a hard time dealing with this trailer. It's a game trailer. Last time I checked, this doesn't mimic real life in any form, nor does it advertise itself as a history lesson.

The Ass Creed games have always been pretty even handed in how they portray their characters and factions; those loosely based on real world counterparts anyway. This is why all the publicity for this game comes over badly, because even handed it is not.

I'm not overly bothered, I don't buy new Ubisoft games for my PC, but when I do eventually pick up my used console copy I'd like it to have a decent story; not be some American Patriot's fantasy wank off material.

My main problem with this assessment is that it's not uneven as far as we know. We don't know much of anything about how the game plays out, only that it's from the perspective of the colonists. We have not seen anything that depicts it unevenly. This ad was the closest, but it was clearly aimed at American audiences who were celebrating Independence Day. People are freaking out about this and using it as an excuse for wide spectrum anti-american sentiment, and it's just kind of pathetic that people are freaking over a game we don't know anything about. All the pictures of ingame footage have been mostly battlefields, and last time I checked, they didn't benefit anyone in particular. Also, to point out the obvious, this game is created by a French company. American's don't have any say at all the advertising routes the company takes.

Or to put it another way, in every released example of footage be it in game or cinematic has had the protagonist killing Redcoats and helping colonists. If we're basing our opinion on what we've seen, it's very f*cking uneven and it's getting harder and harder to take Ubisoft's word for it that it won't be.

You're just finding excuses to be argumentative. The character is a patriot. In the first game Altaire was a Muslim and the major villains were Christians, but no one found fault with that. There are two sides to every conflict, I just don't understand why you folks are so upset about this. Would you rather have the main character be a British Loyalist and trying to overthrow the creation of the American Republic? I wouldn't have a problem like that, but the game is meant to very loosely follow history. And I mean very loosely. If there was no conflict, there would be no game. If they had done a game based around the Japanese occupation of China in 1931, and all the scenes were of an Assassin character killing Japanese, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Or even if we reversed it where it were a Japanese Assassin killing Chinese, you would still be fine with it. You wouldn't be insulted because it was not even handed.

In AC2, there wasn't really a war going, and yet it still managed to find conflict.
But the fact is, the assassin isn't supposed to be a patriot. The war in AC is not between the natives and the invaders, it's between Assassins and Templars. There has been one (1) indication of templars so far, and it was in that equally ludicris trailer. Any other conflicts should be a background to the real one, not the basis of the plot. That is what Ubi promised us, and so far, that is what we have received, yeah?

 

[algalon]

Did I say pre-war? No I don't think I did. Context. Reading comprehension. These things matter. Don't base an argument on an assumption, on a premise you think exists but does not.

To whom do you think the "rise" tagline is addressing?

Viagra users?

 

[silent-treatment]

the only demographic of gamers that would be completely taken in by this ad are already getting the patriot on playing COD.

CoD? The one where the Americans get killed in massive numbers, the bad guy behind it all turns out to be an American general, and it's the heroic Brits who save the day and kill the final baddie? That CoD?

Okay first of all calm down a little. I didn't mean anything bad with the comment, and I did not I comment on the game itself. I am talking about the way the game is portrayed in the ads that they released. "Everyone can be a solider" that kind of stuff. I never attacked the game itself man, calm down.

 

[gphjr14]

I'm guessing they're using a 1940's history book for reference. Main reason colonist rebelled was because the crown wouldn't support westward expansion into Native American lands. Interesting how they'll twist this so the main character isn't helping lay down the ground work for ethnic cleansing, which would later allow for the expansion of slave labor.

Oh well its just a game.

 

[Morbira]

Well, as the original post stated, this game goes through the Treaty of Paris. If I'm inferring correctly here, that means that your protagonist, a half-Mohawk, is gonna spend a game fighting alongside his revolutionary comrades only to be abandoned and kicked to the side after they've officially gotten what they wanted. Sounds like a pretty dark portrayal of the aftermath of the revolution, and I'm all for it.

 

[DRes82]

Jesus H...five pages of whining about the historical inaccuracy of a video game trailer. If you're british and this really pisses you off, you need to do some serious thinking about what you put effort towards. If you're american and you're pandering to the whiners by saying, 'i'm american and i know why you would blah blah blah', you need a damned face punch and a lesson in not being pressured by a crowd.

As a Brit, I'm trying to maintain an even-handed approach. If they were Americans being slaughtered, I would probably already be praising it as my game of the decade...

Are you fucking kidding me? This kind of sociopathic bullshit is ridiculous! You would praise a game for 'slaughtering' a specific demographic? Right, and I'm sure that you're well balanced and have a girlfriend and don't live in your mother's basement.

This kind of a ass backward nonsense from a video game trailer. This, British escapists, is what should be angering you. Not some lamely written line in a two minute trailer.

 

[itsausernamewhatofit]

I really want to like AC3 but the marketing hasn't really been filling me with much enthusiasm. Even as an American I don't enjoy that patriotic revolution garbage. I kind of sympathize with the British as far as the revolution is concerned.

 

[Baresark]

I can see that. You have definitely made some very valid points. But, that being said. I absolutely would not have a problem with a game that involved killing Americans. Or that depicted Americans as the evil invading empire because I would not consider a work of fiction a slight against myself or my country. First, as a game, it's inherently fictitious and is not representative of an entire conflict, or entire people. Second, the way you described American soldiers is not untrue in regards to some soldiers. But the main reason I would be fine with it would be because it's only a little snippet of a game. If they aren't showing just enough to get me interested but showing the entire story in a demo or a few pictures, they are doing it wrong.

Spec ops: The Line has you against the 33rd, another division of the American military. Apparently.

We should all be better than to compare this game to actual history.

I agree with this - if Assassin's Creed didn't bill itself as historical action or drama. It's always been about as accurate as a Dan Brown novel, but it pretends to be. And people take it as it is.

I still hear game reviewers talk about Assassin's Creed, and even being offended at killing a Pope. Besides the point that Pope Alexander has always been a point of contention in Catholic history. They didn't actually use it as a jumping on point to learn more, when the opportunity was there.

I hope that they do, because these people are much more interesting than how they tend to be painted.

I actually bought that game as it was 50% off on Amazon. That game does a good job at making you feel genuinely remorseful about defending yourself. It's a pretty good and worth the price at $25.

 

[Bloodstain]

I know I will be hated upon for saying this, but I really root for the British.
The British defended the colonies and then wanted them to pay off their war debt -- the colonies refused to pay and demanded 'freedom'. If someone defends you, colonies, it's not nice to give them the finger right afterwards. Cue Boston Tea Party, etc.
Of course the British did bad things as well, nobody's innocent there -- still, I wouldn't mind if they had won. But oh well, they only 'lost' because the Empire had more dangerous enemies to focus on anyway.

 

[shadowstriker86]

as an american, ive always wondered about the perspective of british people with the revolutionary war, and now i know. as a gamer however, im put off by this trailer, have yet to play any of the ass creeds games yet, and this trailer kinda pushes me away further. Why? If you need to suck someones dick THIS BADLY, your game is probably crap

 

[DRes82]

This kind of a ass backward nonsense from a video game trailer. This, British escapists, is what should be angering you. Not some lamely written line in a two minute trailer.

YEAH! Why should anyone give a fuck about historical accuracy?! After all, who cares about the history of a country that they'll never see?!

You, sir, have just won the thread.

How, exactly, did he 'win the thread'? All he did was repeat the same stupid line from the trailer that you're all bitching about in a bad attempt at countering my post.

He didn't address anything at all that I said. Let me try again, since apparently my first post wasn't decipherable to you or your awesome, one-liner, thread winner friend.

I said that the historical accuracy in a game trailer is trivial. It wasn't made to be a fucking documentary, and therefore shouldn't really be taken so seriously. Secondly, I addressed the sociopathic comment by one of the previous posters and how it was unbelievable that this type of shit is acceptable to you all while a shittily written script in a game trailer causes all sorts of uproar.

Is that TLR enough for you?

Honestly, though...I should probably save my breath. Immaturity can only be corrected with experience.

 

[Unsilenced]

It's worth noting that if they had him fighting colonists in the trailer, he'd just look like he was beating the shit out of a bunch of farmers.

Redcoats are a universal symbol of authority and power. Random fucking farmers are not.

Just a thought.




Also: British troops burned down Conner's village. He kind of has beef with them.

 

[Sun Flash]

I don't mind Britain being the moustache twirling bad guys (Hell that's one of our primary exports) if Ubisoft said that would be the case out the gate, but don't try and pander saying it'll be different shades of grey when quite clearly that isn't the case.

Apart from that, I'm not too bothered about this, except the learning about another country's history line which is too stupid for words. It just reminds me of the Onion video on the kid who flunked Spanish because 'Murricah.

Spoiler

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Ubisoft is French, no? So, hundreds of years of animosity and fist-shaking between the French and the Brits, and you guys are expecting them to show their enemy in a positive light in a war where the French helped beat the Brits off? Hahaha! What a fun idea.

Historical snark aside, nice to see they're still not showing much gameplay in their trailers. I guess they took the "well, they already know about stabbing and shooting, let's play up their anachronistic patriotism instead!" I mean, really, it's like a commercial 236 years late. This is the kind of pseudo propaganda that should have played back then to get people on the colonial side. What a useless trailer.