Rumor: Batman: Arkham Origins Will Add Multiplayer
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Well, to be fair, I lost a lot of hype for this sequel/prequel when I heard "Oh we're totally gonna put the Justice League in it!". Almost as if they were trying to cash in on some sort of movie...
I want to see what happens after Arkham City with the whole prophecy/Hush/Scarecrow/creepy Joker-baby thing.
Oh and like everyone else I certainly couldn't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.
I want to see what happens after Arkham City with the whole prophecy/Hush/Scarecrow/creepy Joker-baby thing.
Oh and like everyone else I certainly couldn't give a rat's ass about multiplayer.
On the one hand,*adopts gravelly voice* I never asked for this...
On the other hand, this could be done really well. I'm thinking predator mode, one player as Batman, the other players as thugs with some or other objective, armed with guns.
No wait, better still: The other player as a super villain directing those thugs, so that you've got a strategy mode over-view of the map along with a 'most recent sighting of Batman' marker, 'Current Guard Patrol Routes' and 'These Guards are too terrified to obey your orders'. It would be especially fun if you can go in there as the super-villain from time-to-time to get your guards to obey you again, kick Batman's ass, and set traps. Of course, if Batman takes you out when you're in Villain-mode, it's Game Over, making this a high-risk, high reward strategy.
But if there is multiplayer, it almost certainly won't be that, and it'll feel like a cheap addition designed to draw in some extra market. *sigh* I wish I was less cynical...
On the other hand, this could be done really well. I'm thinking predator mode, one player as Batman, the other players as thugs with some or other objective, armed with guns.
No wait, better still: The other player as a super villain directing those thugs, so that you've got a strategy mode over-view of the map along with a 'most recent sighting of Batman' marker, 'Current Guard Patrol Routes' and 'These Guards are too terrified to obey your orders'. It would be especially fun if you can go in there as the super-villain from time-to-time to get your guards to obey you again, kick Batman's ass, and set traps. Of course, if Batman takes you out when you're in Villain-mode, it's Game Over, making this a high-risk, high reward strategy.
But if there is multiplayer, it almost certainly won't be that, and it'll feel like a cheap addition designed to draw in some extra market. *sigh* I wish I was less cynical...
Meh to be honest my interest dropped when i heard rocksteady weren't on the case this just adds to my apathy for the game.
Article: "Let's try to avoid knee-jerk reactions."
Everyone: "KNEE-JERK REACTION!"
Seriously, how do you know this doesn't just mean a Batman and Robin/Nightwing/Batgirl/Catwoman co-op mode. Sheesh, are people these days are just panicky, paranoid lunatics or what...
Everyone: "KNEE-JERK REACTION!"
Seriously, how do you know this doesn't just mean a Batman and Robin/Nightwing/Batgirl/Catwoman co-op mode. Sheesh, are people these days are just panicky, paranoid lunatics or what...
In Short:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
In Long
Seriously though depending on what type of multiplayer they have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
In Long
Seriously though depending on what type of multiplayer they have.
This I could get behind. Some kind of co-op missions that involve strategy and using each character's unique abilities to try and get some villain in his hideout or etc. Sadly though the pessimist in me sees some tacked on Gotham City Imposters ripoff.bigfatcarp93 said:
I love Batman, I love Rocksteady and what they did with their games. I'm a fan of both and I'm sure RS will be developing another Batman game. Otherwise it would be a stupid move of WB to take the IP away from the studio that made Batman a big deal in games again. Maybe while WB Montreal works on the prequel and spinoffs, RS is already developing the real deal - a sequel to AC. I don't think people care as much about a prequel as a sequel, because of the loose ends and hints we got in AC.
That being said...
Please stop bitching about a different developer and MP until we get more information like gameplay videos and so on - thank you. It's childish, give them a chance. RS was a no-name dev too, before they created the Arkham games. Also, as far as I can tell, on the official Arkhamverse forums and fansites, people do appreciate some kind of multiplayer. They are basically talking about it since AC. And tbh, there is no reason against it as long as they handle their ressources well. But since the previous games did pretty well and there are other Batman/DC-related multiplayer games out there (Gotham City Impostors, Infinite Crisis), I'm sure WB knows what the main selling point of those games is.
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That being said...
Please stop bitching about a different developer and MP until we get more information like gameplay videos and so on - thank you. It's childish, give them a chance. RS was a no-name dev too, before they created the Arkham games. Also, as far as I can tell, on the official Arkhamverse forums and fansites, people do appreciate some kind of multiplayer. They are basically talking about it since AC. And tbh, there is no reason against it as long as they handle their ressources well. But since the previous games did pretty well and there are other Batman/DC-related multiplayer games out there (Gotham City Impostors, Infinite Crisis), I'm sure WB knows what the main selling point of those games is.
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About the last aspect you mentioned: Play the story dlc for AC (Harley Quinns Revenge).Caffeine_Bombed said:
I actually wrote up a blog post ages ago about how they could make multiplayer work in Arkham games. If they made it a co-op style dungeon crawler/horde mode experience, it would be very enjoyable, maybe even with a villains verses police mode. But instead... they're just making what sounds a bit like darkSector's multiplayer.Ukomba said:
Yeah...that about sums it up for me.
Even if it's completely optional it still reeks of an EA-like style of handling from management. I dunno, I like my traditionally single-player-only games to remain single-player-only. That said, I still say that, with a good team, the multiplayer in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood is still one of my favorite multiplayer experiences. So maybe it'll be decent...I just don't see how they'd balance it.
Think of the boss fights in the games...yeah some of them were tough but, true to Batman's nature, he always spotted an easily exploitable weakness to make every boss fight pretty easy if you knew what you were doing. They'd have to give the villian's a way of countering Batman's Anti-Thing Spray so they could have a chance.
I dunno, I just feel that they'd have to change a lot of core mechanics to do it, but who really knows.
Remember when Harmonix gave Guitar Hero to Activision so they could run it into the ground while they made the indisputably superior Rock Band.
Here's hoping that while this game is tinkered into oblivion Rocksteady surprises us all shortly afterward with a Justice League game.
Here's hoping that while this game is tinkered into oblivion Rocksteady surprises us all shortly afterward with a Justice League game.
Oh Fuck, fuck fuck fuck fucking no!
FUCK!
Fuck!
God dammit.
Ahem...
This sounds like a terrible... AHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK!
Learn your god damn lesson games industry! and learn it fast!
If you keep alienating single player gamers you are going to die.
It doesn't even make sense from a business perspective.
Who has more discretionary cash than the depressing forever alone types who spend all their time and money on video games.
Target games at us... I mean them... I mean us!
I love gaming. But if you're going to shit all over the good aspects of it then FUCK YOU Publishers who only care about competing with Call of Duty and Developers who don't have the balls to jump off the sinking ships.
If you don't figure out that there are at least 20 niche... No at least 20 HUGE under served markets out there that are dying for a rewarding single player experience then the industry will die.
Dead Space 3 supposed to sell 5 million copies. Don't make me fucking laugh.
FUCK!
Fuck!
God dammit.
Ahem...
This sounds like a terrible... AHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK!
Learn your god damn lesson games industry! and learn it fast!
If you keep alienating single player gamers you are going to die.
It doesn't even make sense from a business perspective.
Who has more discretionary cash than the depressing forever alone types who spend all their time and money on video games.
Target games at us... I mean them... I mean us!
I love gaming. But if you're going to shit all over the good aspects of it then FUCK YOU Publishers who only care about competing with Call of Duty and Developers who don't have the balls to jump off the sinking ships.
If you don't figure out that there are at least 20 niche... No at least 20 HUGE under served markets out there that are dying for a rewarding single player experience then the industry will die.
Dead Space 3 supposed to sell 5 million copies. Don't make me fucking laugh.
I eagerly await being able to recreate such classic scenarios as Batman teabagging the Riddler while Robin says "lol u fag".
Mass Effect 3 wasn't worsened by teh multiplayer. You could argue the merits of the game, but honestly, the multiplayer wasn't a negative impact on the game itself.Krantos said:
the Assassin's Creed series seems in a similar boat. Maybe annual releases worsen the quality, but that has nothing to do with there being multiplayer.
It doesn't sound like co-op, for one.kailus13 said:
BUT IT'S THE WORST THING EVARRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!bigfatcarp93 said:
And of course we're panicky paranoid lunatics. We're gamers, dammit!
>.>
But seriously:
I'm not saying it's going to suck, or even that I know what form this will take, but it doesn't sound like co-op.
At first I was absolutely horrified at the idea of multiplayer I have to see, who could ever relinquish the joy you'd get by playing as Adam West batman. I bet he would probably still do the voice.Fu11Frontal said:
It sounds like the game is in the hands of madmen and work-experience kids, desperate to impress the boss with their bold new ideas for the direction of the game.
That said, there are a few ways that multiplayer could work. What about a kind of co-op timed boss rush, where one player as Batman and a second (possibly more) as someone else have to playthrough the entire map, beating the big-bads with a time limit. You have two strategies. Stick together and have an easier time against each boss or split up and cover more ground. That could even work as a kind of hunting game, where a villain is somewhere on the map and you have to hunt them down and stop them, after a certain amount of time they could cause some kind of mayhem that the Bat-team have to stop which gives you some idea of where the enemy is. Again you have the option for one player to go straight after the villain whilst the other helps damsels in distress/defuse bombs/solve riddles/spray sharks or stick together.
That said, there are a few ways that multiplayer could work. What about a kind of co-op timed boss rush, where one player as Batman and a second (possibly more) as someone else have to playthrough the entire map, beating the big-bads with a time limit. You have two strategies. Stick together and have an easier time against each boss or split up and cover more ground. That could even work as a kind of hunting game, where a villain is somewhere on the map and you have to hunt them down and stop them, after a certain amount of time they could cause some kind of mayhem that the Bat-team have to stop which gives you some idea of where the enemy is. Again you have the option for one player to go straight after the villain whilst the other helps damsels in distress/defuse bombs/solve riddles/spray sharks or stick together.
Time, money, disk space, and personnel are all finite resources.Abandon4093 said:
Anything not going in to the single player experience is effecting it negatively.
That's the case with any game, but Batman? The Arkham games amazing single player experiences. Awesome stealth, cool puzzles, a lot of exploration and an amazing combat system.
It's tight, that's the only word for it. Adding a Coop player is just fluff at best.
And could easily mean cutting whole levels to balance the enemy AI for Coop, or making the difficulty trivial on Coop, or stupidly hard on single player
Spec Ops, Xcom EU, Farcry 3 (If you're willing to forgive the crap UI), Tomb Raider(And I'm being generous here)
So 4 primarily single player games that were good despite having tacked on Multyplayer in the last 12 months.
Walking Dead, Bioshock Infinite, Lollipop Chainsaw, Mark of the Ninja, Dust an Elysian Tali (Again I'm being generous) 5 good single player games in the past 12 months and 3 of them came out on Xbox Arcade.
(Yes I don't play on PC)
And going back another year I can only add Catherine, Dark Souls and Assassin's Creed Revelations to the list of single player games that are good despite the tacked on multyplayer.
And you can look me in the text and say multyplayer doesn't effect the single player.
Mikeyfell said:
Keep jerkin' dem knees, Escapist.Slowbear said:
Captcha: Face the Music
Something you all may very well have to do if this winds up NOT killing the game, a possibility you all seem quite happy to ignore.