Rumor: The iPad 3 Cometh

joe-h2o

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So much hate in this thread! It's as if a thousand anti-fanboys grabbed onto something to define themselves by (wow, awkward sentence structure).

You personally may not find a use for a tablet, but that does not mean other people have the same needs as you. Not all people have "a laptop and a smartphone" already, for example, and a tablet might work well for them in the living room.

Imagine, a computing device you don;t really have to mess with for checking email, casual surfing, video/audio chatting with the family and playing some casual games - that's what the iPad is, and it is selling like hot cakes because *that's what an awful lot of people want*. Not because they've been "told to buy it like mindless sheep", but because it genuinely offers something they find useful.

This doesn't mean everyone is going to find a tablet useful l -I don't own one, for example, but I can see how many, many people would love them.

It's also not a requirement that everyone must go out and buy the new one when it's announced - that seems to be something that Apple haters assume everyone who owns the earlier ones will do. Of course Apple is going to keep updating it as the tech advances, but this does not make the older ones obsolete. The iPad 1 is still a perfectly capable device running the latest iOS software (akin to the iPhone 3GS which is running iOS5 on the phone side). Just because the new one is coming out does not mean the old ones are simply going to stop working, or that they'll be left behind in software updates (like many Android devices stuck on older releases after the manufacturer simply abandons them).

This argument has been done to death, but just because you personally (or I, for that matter) can't see a use for a tablet in their own computing experience does not make them useless. They have been rightly snapped up by the multiple tens of millions by the less-computer-using demographic and perfectly filled a niche - it's a device that does 80-90% of their computing needs without all the associated hassle of... being a computer. They can just pick it up and it will do what it says on the tin.

I have close family members who own them (one with an iPad 1, the other with an iPad 2) and they have revolutionised the way they use the internet since they were simply not the type of people who would sit down in front of a computer (even a laptop on the couch) and browse. Now they're sending more emails, participating on family facebook groups, viewing photos, doing online shopping, watching streaming TV (both on the iPad and on their main TV with an adapter).

The iPad came along and made tablets useful to the masses. The computer-using tech-literate folk all laughed and said they would never sell, but they weren't looking past their Alienware 24 lb laptops and liquid cooled 1500 watt gaming rigs far enough to realise they weren't the target market.

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Melon Hunter said:
Let the hostilities begin once again. Of course the iPad 3 was coming out in 2012. Every one of Apple's mobile products has been updated on a yearly basis for some time now. Just can we please not be to cynical about this? I own an iPad 2. It's pretty funky, but I don't think it's the be-all and end-all of tablets. I definitely won't be getting an iPad 3, although I do respect the fact that this is a major update for the iPad.
Well, I think my main problem with Apple is not their release schedule, hell everything has planned redundancy lately, and my dad seems to enjoy his iPad 2 well enough.

I think it's the smugness of the general Apple fan that everyone hates. Like everything Apple makes is a technological marvel.

They aren't.

You seem perfectly reasonable, and that's fine, nothing wrong with buying stuff you enjoy.
The only people who seem to get all het up about the "smug Apple fans" are the ones looking for it. I'm not accusing you of this, just noting that this thread got to page two with a a whole raft of insults at... who exactly?

The "smug Apple fan" is as much an accurate representation of the typical Apple user as the "12 year old who only knows the word 'gay' as an insult" as a description of Xbox LIVE users. Of course both types of people exist, but in a thread about Apple on almost any tech site the insults and stereotypes start flying from the anti-Apple side with great gusto and vitriol. It's virtually impossible to actually talk about anything to do with Apple in a positive light without being immediately jumped on. It gets tiring and annoying to the point where I stop bothering, which is a shame.

I have plenty of criticism for Apple, as well as plenty of praise for some of the things they do, but trying to raise any of the former points is an exercise in futility.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Melon Hunter said:
Let the hostilities begin once again. Of course the iPad 3 was coming out in 2012. Every one of Apple's mobile products has been updated on a yearly basis for some time now. Just can we please not be to cynical about this? I own an iPad 2. It's pretty funky, but I don't think it's the be-all and end-all of tablets. I definitely won't be getting an iPad 3, although I do respect the fact that this is a major update for the iPad.
Well, I think my main problem with Apple is not their release schedule, hell everything has planned redundancy lately, and my dad seems to enjoy is iPad 2 well enough.

I think it's the smugness of the general Apple fan that everyone hates. Like everything Apple makes is a technological marvel.

They aren't.

You seem perfectly reasonable, and that's fine, nothing wrong with buying stuff you enjoy.
Yeah, that pretty much hits the nail on the head. Honestly, I feel slightly guilty for preferring the iPhone's UI and App Store to Android's (well, HTC Sense, to be precise). I don't like rabid Apple fanboys either, but I also hate the people who get stirred up by Apple announcements like this one, who start ripping on anything released by Apple, and anyone who buys it.

So, I have the opposite irritation. I'm fine with people criticising Apple products, as there are a boatload of problems with them, like proprietary hardware and overpricing. It's just when it turns into "God, Apple are so bad, and all the people who buy their products are sheep", then we have a problem.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
brainslurper said:
TsunamiWombat said:
At least they can legitimatly say they're updating the product between launches but thats only because they're selling unupgradeble proprietary appliances that force you to use their software and their hardware. Inevitably, this will be MOST of the market share in the future, but I can't help but lament how much money and buyer fatigue consumers could be saved if not for this multiple itineration release schema.

Of course, making people buy near the same thing over and over and over and over is the point now innit? Roll that beautiful cash footage.

Fortunatly, I don't need an Ipad. Because I have a goddamned computer.

PS: Greg, I noticed your forum title. Are you infact, "ain't afraid of no ghosts"?
The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.
Great joke, you almost had me there.


OT: Apple are great at what they do, and what they do is sell bog standard tech at a ridiculously high price to people who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it.
I find it funny that you call the iPad bog standard, what tablet would you consider to be not bog standard?
 

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Melon Hunter said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Melon Hunter said:
Let the hostilities begin once again. Of course the iPad 3 was coming out in 2012. Every one of Apple's mobile products has been updated on a yearly basis for some time now. Just can we please not be to cynical about this? I own an iPad 2. It's pretty funky, but I don't think it's the be-all and end-all of tablets. I definitely won't be getting an iPad 3, although I do respect the fact that this is a major update for the iPad.
Well, I think my main problem with Apple is not their release schedule, hell everything has planned redundancy lately, and my dad seems to enjoy is iPad 2 well enough.

I think it's the smugness of the general Apple fan that everyone hates. Like everything Apple makes is a technological marvel.

They aren't.

You seem perfectly reasonable, and that's fine, nothing wrong with buying stuff you enjoy.
Yeah, that pretty much hits the nail on the head. Honestly, I feel slightly guilty for preferring the iPhone's UI and App Store to Android's (well, HTC Sense, to be precise). I don't like rabid Apple fanboys either, but I also hate the people who get stirred up by Apple announcements like this one, who start ripping on anything released by Apple, and anyone who buys it.

So, I have the opposite irritation. I'm fine with people criticising Apple products, as there are a boatload of problems with them, like proprietary hardware and overpricing. It's just when it turns into "God, Apple are so bad, and all the people who buy their products are sheep", then we have a problem.
There are going to be people who love anything with an apple on it, and there are going to be people who hate anything with an apple on it, both for no reason. I agree on the app store thing, apple has a much larger selection going, and their review process is much more thorough.
 
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brainslurper said:
Daystar Clarion said:
brainslurper said:
TsunamiWombat said:
At least they can legitimatly say they're updating the product between launches but thats only because they're selling unupgradeble proprietary appliances that force you to use their software and their hardware. Inevitably, this will be MOST of the market share in the future, but I can't help but lament how much money and buyer fatigue consumers could be saved if not for this multiple itineration release schema.

Of course, making people buy near the same thing over and over and over and over is the point now innit? Roll that beautiful cash footage.

Fortunatly, I don't need an Ipad. Because I have a goddamned computer.

PS: Greg, I noticed your forum title. Are you infact, "ain't afraid of no ghosts"?
The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.
Great joke, you almost had me there.


OT: Apple are great at what they do, and what they do is sell bog standard tech at a ridiculously high price to people who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it.
I find it funny that you call the iPad bog standard, what tablet would you consider to be not bog standard?
It's not that bog standard is a bad thing, I just don't agree with slapping the price tag of a small country on something just because it has an Apple logo on it.
 

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Captain Booyah said:
OK, I've got to ask: is there any legitimate reason Apple keeps releasing slightly improved versions of the same product, other than it's a total money-making scam? Yeah, you could get the Ipad 3, but why not wait another few months and then get the Ipad 4? >_>
Every other major technology manufacturer does it too, the majority having more releases then apple (considering different products in one category). It seems like your problem is that technology is actually moving forward, whenever you buy something, there is eventually going to be something better. Apple doesn't force you to buy something new every year, their products actually last relatively long. You buy a new product when you feel that the upgrade is worth it to you.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
brainslurper said:
Daystar Clarion said:
brainslurper said:
TsunamiWombat said:
At least they can legitimatly say they're updating the product between launches but thats only because they're selling unupgradeble proprietary appliances that force you to use their software and their hardware. Inevitably, this will be MOST of the market share in the future, but I can't help but lament how much money and buyer fatigue consumers could be saved if not for this multiple itineration release schema.

Of course, making people buy near the same thing over and over and over and over is the point now innit? Roll that beautiful cash footage.

Fortunatly, I don't need an Ipad. Because I have a goddamned computer.

PS: Greg, I noticed your forum title. Are you infact, "ain't afraid of no ghosts"?
The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.
Great joke, you almost had me there.


OT: Apple are great at what they do, and what they do is sell bog standard tech at a ridiculously high price to people who will buy anything with an Apple logo on it.
I find it funny that you call the iPad bog standard, what tablet would you consider to be not bog standard?
It's not that big standard is a bad thing, I just don't agree with slapping the price tag of a small country on something just because it has an Apple logo on it.
I understand that, but the pricing on apple's phones and tablets is actually pretty normal.
 

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Hyper-space said:
brainslurper said:
The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.
Why is it then that the iPad was inferior to a HP tablet (the TC1100, I think) released years before it? I mean, not just technically, but also feature-wise the iPad fell short of something released in like, 2005.
Okay. First of all, this thing costs 4 times what the iPad costs, is about 3 times as thick as the iPad and has half as long battery life. Other then that, the iPad falls short.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS441US441&q=TC1100&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=16422172092526045629&sa=X&ei=Rs4UT4qnOuSsiALp7PDXDQ&ved=0CFEQ8wIwAg
 

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Spot1990 said:
brainslurper said:
The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.
What it is is a tablet that plays second fiddle to a lot of other tablets in everything from specs to price, the only area it's actually better in is devoted fanboys.
Where are these other tablets? Have you ever even used an iPad?
 

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I don't get it why its so popular, it costs a lot and has shitty specs, i just cant think of a use for that thing, even if i got it for free i would get bored of it in a week.
 

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Hoplon said:
Wow, some of the rumours are just plain impossible

"The pixels of the the iPad 3 are small enough that images appear like printed material, one source said." apart from the whole being lit from behind which is the major difference.

"Videos should also take a lot less time to buffer and start playing because of the added processing power." really? I thought that was a bandwidth problem, nothing to do with the CPU since it's internet speed that makes them buffer in the first place.

once more in to the bullshit dear friends, once more!
You don't read newspapers taped to windows? You strange person. In all seriousness, I don't think this guy actually really understands technology much.
 

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kasperbbs said:
I don't get it why its so popular, it costs a lot and has shitty specs, i just cant think of a use for that thing, even if i got it for free i would get bored of it in a week.
Good for you. It actually has relatively high specs and standardish pricing, but don't let that stop you.
 

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god i hate apple, selling another tablet that does only slightly more than a smart phone and less than a laptop for an outrageous price that has almost no custom ability toward hard ware or software. And sitting next to me is a e machine desktop that if i wanted i could open it up and make is as powerful if not more than a 2011-2012 desktop.
That my friends is how products SHOULD be.

and the fact that the first ipad 2 i found on bestbuy was $499.99, and it seemed to be the cheapest, makes me cry.

For $499 i could buy that new lenovo desktop or a Dave mustain zero angle of death 2 electric guitar (look it up)
 

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My mom does not give one shit about technology, hardly ever uses a pc, in fact I didn't even know she was aware of apple products. But suddenly she comes to me saying she "needed" an Ipad. Had to go to great lengths to convice her what a waste of money it is, and even then I could see she still wanted it.

Their marketing really is sickeningly effective on the masses, so annoying.
 

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Make a great an average tablet, charge way too much money for it and make sure it is un-upgradeable so people have to buy a whole new one? smart business model, Terrible Ethics. How to fix? slap a fruit on the back! Honestly this is redundant even for apple. what is the point of this? Why would your customers constantly come back to them despite charging them full price for an upgrade?
 

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The whole idea that tablets are the future of PC computing is a joke. The iPad itself is little more than an oversized iTouch.
 

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The whole idea that tablets are the future of PC computing is a joke. The iPad itself is little more than an oversized iTouch.
why not though? the apple zombies dont care about that...all they care about is "wooo look its apple..its inovative...ITS APPLE"

ok mabye that was a bit harsh...but yeah..I dont "get" the apple thing
 

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i'd like one that lets me use android............ or i'll just buy an android tablet that's more powerful and 300 dollars less two months after ipad 3'a launch.