Rumor: The iPad 3 Cometh

[brainslurper]

The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.

What it is is a tablet that plays second fiddle to a lot of other tablets in everything from specs to price, the only area it's actually better in is devoted fanboys.

Where are these other tablets? Have you ever even used an iPad?

iPad 2:
Screen 1024 x 768, 132 ppi
Processor 1 GHz dual-core Apple A5 custom-designed
Weight 601g
Battery up to 10 hours
RAM (not on the website but several sources place it at 512Mb
Rear camera less than 1 megapixel

32 Gb Wifi model 463 pounds.

Samsung Galaxy:
Screen 1280 x 800, 149 ppi
Processor 1 GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2
Weight 565g
Battery up to 9 hours
RAM 1 Gb
Rear camera 3 megapixel
Has Flash support

32 Gb Wifi model 453 pounds.

And yes, yes I have. Much like every other Apple device I've used (and I used them a lot while studying multimedia) I found them nice but over priced for a weaker machine.

Okay. Beyond a slightly better resolution and rear camera, I don't see the difference worth justifying using android.

And twice the RAM and flash support. It's actually lighter (one of the iPad's major claims to fame was it's light weight). When it comes to using OS, that's just a preference. When it comes to more powerful hardware for less money that's a fact.

But that's not the point. You asked for a tablet that was more powerful and cheaper. Wouldn't matter if the better resolution and camera were the only advantages, it would still be a better tablet that was cheaper. The specs are better, the price is better. That was the point I made, the point you contested and the point I proved.

The galaxy is lighter because it is made of plastic. Even the shiny parts are plastic. It is also thicker then the iPad 2. And because we are getting into software, you have to use the half baked tablet version of android with the galaxy. Also, why would you want flash support? Is android's battery life not bad enough for you?

 

[brainslurper]

The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.

What it is is a tablet that plays second fiddle to a lot of other tablets in everything from specs to price, the only area it's actually better in is devoted fanboys.

Where are these other tablets? Have you ever even used an iPad?

iPad 2:
Screen 1024 x 768, 132 ppi
Processor 1 GHz dual-core Apple A5 custom-designed
Weight 601g
Battery up to 10 hours
RAM (not on the website but several sources place it at 512Mb
Rear camera less than 1 megapixel

32 Gb Wifi model 463 pounds.

Samsung Galaxy:
Screen 1280 x 800, 149 ppi
Processor 1 GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2
Weight 565g
Battery up to 9 hours
RAM 1 Gb
Rear camera 3 megapixel
Has Flash support

32 Gb Wifi model 453 pounds.

And yes, yes I have. Much like every other Apple device I've used (and I used them a lot while studying multimedia) I found them nice but over priced for a weaker machine.

Okay. Beyond a slightly better resolution and rear camera, I don't see the difference worth justifying using android.

And twice the RAM and flash support. It's actually lighter (one of the iPad's major claims to fame was it's light weight). When it comes to using OS, that's just a preference. When it comes to more powerful hardware for less money that's a fact.

But that's not the point. You asked for a tablet that was more powerful and cheaper. Wouldn't matter if the better resolution and camera were the only advantages, it would still be a better tablet that was cheaper. The specs are better, the price is better. That was the point I made, the point you contested and the point I proved.

The galaxy is lighter because it is made of plastic. Even the shiny parts are plastic. It is also thicker then the iPad 2. And because we are getting into software, you have to use the half baked tablet version of android with the galaxy. Also, why would you want flash support? Is android's bad battery life not bad enough for you?

OS wasn't the issue. I quite like working with both operating systems (yes I actually like iOS, just not the products it's attached to). Anyway, as I said which OS you prefer working with is a matter of preference.

Plastic is quite resilient. A lot of products are made of plastic, my laptop for instance. It has not been a problem yet. Thicker is actually good. The main thing I like about the SOny Tablet S is that one end is thiker than the other, it's more comfortable to hold.

I want flash support because a lot of videos and websites use flash. It's quite useful. Certainly more useful than not having it.

Bad battery life? iPad 10 hours, Samsung 9 hours. Unless the battery life was less than a couple of hours I wouldn't mind anyway. It's still far better than most notebooks.

Again, you asked for a tablet with better specs for less money. I gave one.

More RAM, equal processing power, Flash support (which is quite useful), better camera and better screen resolution. That qualifies as better specs. 453<463. That qualifies as better price.

It's not going to last 9 hours if you are using flash at all. You are correct about the hardware and price being better, but not enough to justify the inferior build quality or software, and I certainly wouldn't call it "second fiddle".

 

[Twilight_guy]

Well, Let's see. I have a laptop for work if I need to be mobile, and if I'm not then I'm at home and have my desktop which likely runs pretty good. Nope, still don't need a tablet.

I will never understand why people want iPads. It can't all be cultural capital and the mystical smoke bullshit that gets blown up people's asses. there has to be some reason for all this noise and why these things keep selling. The only good use I've seen for them is for artists to quickly show off there work without a physical portfolio, there must be something I'm missing.

 

[Arizona Kyle]

I don't really know what to say. I got the iPad 1 for Christmas. Its a really nice tool, and I enjoy reading on it, but I couldn't for the life of me think of a reason I would need the "2" or the "3". They are really really expensive for the average user.

To each their own I suppose, but I don't understand the HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE desire to own these things that people get.

I also have an iPhone 4, and I love it (although I miss my Droid alot), but when the 4S came out, and all it really was was the "Siri" upgrade, that shut me off from ever wanting it.

But I guess people who aren't into technology and ergo don't follow it as much, are easily intrigued by this kind of stuff.

I think a common misconception is that because a new device is released each year, you need to buy one each year. I buy one, and then buy a new one when I feel like it would be worth it.

Apple is like Scientology, they will only be happy when they have all your money

Wait... what?

think about it.... all the apple stores are built like glass churches, studys have shown that appletards get the same reaction when looking at an apple product that a christian gets from looking at a picture of jesus. Steve jobs called himself the "messiah" they devise ways to get all your money by telling you that you need this product even though you just got a new one less than a year ago....

Appltology, Applism, Applanity some other funny name with apple in it

 

[brainslurper]

I don't really know what to say. I got the iPad 1 for Christmas. Its a really nice tool, and I enjoy reading on it, but I couldn't for the life of me think of a reason I would need the "2" or the "3". They are really really expensive for the average user.

To each their own I suppose, but I don't understand the HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE desire to own these things that people get.

I also have an iPhone 4, and I love it (although I miss my Droid alot), but when the 4S came out, and all it really was was the "Siri" upgrade, that shut me off from ever wanting it.

But I guess people who aren't into technology and ergo don't follow it as much, are easily intrigued by this kind of stuff.

I think a common misconception is that because a new device is released each year, you need to buy one each year. I buy one, and then buy a new one when I feel like it would be worth it.

Apple is like Scientology, they will only be happy when they have all your money

Wait... what?

think about it.... all the apple stores are built like glass churches, studys have shown that appletards get the same reaction when looking at an apple product that a christian gets from looking at a picture of jesus. Steve jobs called himself the "messiah" they devise ways to get all your money by telling you that you need this product even though you just got a new one less than a year ago....

Appltology, Applism, Applanity some other funny name with apple in it

While I have serious doubts that your studies (not studys) exist, Christians (I would hope) look at Jesus with respect and admiration, much like apple fans would look at a new apple product. There is absolutely nothing unreasonable there, aside from the fact that Jesus is not a part of scientology, and Christians aren't scientologists. Steve Jobs never said he was a messiah, and apple only tells you the benefits about the new version of their product, they don't force you, or penalize you (as most android venders do) to go out and buy a new product. Why did I even bother.

 

[brainslurper]

The iPad is what it is because apple can focus only on making the best tablet, without worrying about compatibility with different software or hardware, or about making it upgradeable.

What it is is a tablet that plays second fiddle to a lot of other tablets in everything from specs to price, the only area it's actually better in is devoted fanboys.

Where are these other tablets? Have you ever even used an iPad?

iPad 2:
Screen 1024 x 768, 132 ppi
Processor 1 GHz dual-core Apple A5 custom-designed
Weight 601g
Battery up to 10 hours
RAM (not on the website but several sources place it at 512Mb
Rear camera less than 1 megapixel

32 Gb Wifi model 463 pounds.

Samsung Galaxy:
Screen 1280 x 800, 149 ppi
Processor 1 GHz dual-core NVIDIA Tegra 2
Weight 565g
Battery up to 9 hours
RAM 1 Gb
Rear camera 3 megapixel
Has Flash support

32 Gb Wifi model 453 pounds.

And yes, yes I have. Much like every other Apple device I've used (and I used them a lot while studying multimedia) I found them nice but over priced for a weaker machine.

Okay. Beyond a slightly better resolution and rear camera, I don't see the difference worth justifying using android.

And twice the RAM and flash support. It's actually lighter (one of the iPad's major claims to fame was it's light weight). When it comes to using OS, that's just a preference. When it comes to more powerful hardware for less money that's a fact.

But that's not the point. You asked for a tablet that was more powerful and cheaper. Wouldn't matter if the better resolution and camera were the only advantages, it would still be a better tablet that was cheaper. The specs are better, the price is better. That was the point I made, the point you contested and the point I proved.

The galaxy is lighter because it is made of plastic. Even the shiny parts are plastic. It is also thicker then the iPad 2. And because we are getting into software, you have to use the half baked tablet version of android with the galaxy. Also, why would you want flash support? Is android's bad battery life not bad enough for you?

OS wasn't the issue. I quite like working with both operating systems (yes I actually like iOS, just not the products it's attached to). Anyway, as I said which OS you prefer working with is a matter of preference.

Plastic is quite resilient. A lot of products are made of plastic, my laptop for instance. It has not been a problem yet. Thicker is actually good. The main thing I like about the SOny Tablet S is that one end is thiker than the other, it's more comfortable to hold.

I want flash support because a lot of videos and websites use flash. It's quite useful. Certainly more useful than not having it.

Bad battery life? iPad 10 hours, Samsung 9 hours. Unless the battery life was less than a couple of hours I wouldn't mind anyway. It's still far better than most notebooks.

Again, you asked for a tablet with better specs for less money. I gave one.

More RAM, equal processing power, Flash support (which is quite useful), better camera and better screen resolution. That qualifies as better specs. 453<463. That qualifies as better price.

It's not going to last 9 hours if you are using flash at all. You are correct about the hardware and price being better, but not enough to justify the inferior build quality or software, and I certainly wouldn't call it "second fiddle".

Inferior build quality? Is this about it being plastic and thicker again? There's a reason almost everything that isn't an Apple product is plastic. It's because aluminium isn't necessary... or as strong as Apple fans seem to think. Suffice it to say, neither a plastic or aluminium tablet will shatter to pieces if accidentally dropped or knocked of a table. The Aluminium case won't do a thing to prevent internal damage though. It would likely stand up to greater force than plastic but I imagine anyone applying that force is actively trying to break it. In regards to being thicker I've already mentioned that I prefer that. It's the main reason I haven't changed from physical books to digital. Physical just feels more natural and comfortable to hold because of the thickness.

Maybe it's best not to believe something just because Steve Jobs said it. In regards to Flash:
http://www.macworld.com/article/151117/2010/05/flash.html

Care to actually explain what is worse about the Android OS? Because so far your only argument has been that it is worse, not why it's worse.

Aluminum is more durable, costs more to produce, and looks better. It has a much higher melting temperature and more tensile strength.
Now on to why android is "worse". Fragmentation means that android is a nightmare to develop for, and divides the android market's already limited selection further. On top of that, google doesn't hand screen apps to make sure they are stable and secure as apple does. devices only receive new version of android when the manufacturer releases it, which not only means it will take longer to get updates, but it also means that android devices can stop getting updates forever after as little as 8 months. Carriers have control over the software that ends up on the device- software called CarrierIQ ended up on quite a few android devices, sending everything the users did to the carriers (including the passwords they typed in).

 

[zombiesinc]

The way they're going I'm gonna stop supporting them altogether. I understand that technology advances quite fast but that's no reason to throw one of these out on a yearly basis. It doesn't bode well with Apple's supporters, that's for sure. Oh well, I suppose they're the Activision of the tech industry?