If they were making an add encouraging men to do science. The ad would have been about doing science and the I would have been a test tube.Mike Kayatta said:Yeah, and that blood-soaked or weapon-shaped lettering happens all of the time (and is just as uninspired). I simply refuse to give the filmmaker of this spot enough credit to earnestly believe that he or she was trying to make "a statement". This is much more of a "you want us to make a video about girls and science? Okay, well girls sometimes wear makeup, and scientists sometimes write equations. Let's make an ad with makeup and equations!"kitsuta said:Well, that's kind of the problem. Baseball bats are completely contained within a sport, so you can use one as a synecdoche quite safely. Doing the same for makeup and women has Unfortunate Implications. A better analogy would be if they made a commercial aimed exclusively at men and used a blood-soaked sword (dripping blood too, of course) for the 'i' - because all men clearly enjoy violence and blood and stabby things.Mike Kayatta said:If this director had made a sports "themed" ad, trust me, that "I" would have been a baseball bat.
The problem is that when you deal with dull marketing producers, everything that comes out of them will be directly associative. This video was the composition of five people Family-Feuding what things people commonly associate with women. Whether or not makeup should be a go-to item for the thought of women is a different matter.
This ad could have been much better, but a lack of creativity, not sexism, is the perpetrator.
I work in marketing, this is the worst ad I've seen. This week. However it's only Monday, so that might well change. It draws attention to the women being hot, rather than the fact that science is interesting, and completely detracts from the fact that science is a professional career.Mike Kayatta said:So, this may just me, but when I see this ad, I see a team of B-minus marketers trying to make science sexy, not women. Yes, the women enter with what's a "sexy stride," but when the lights come on, we're greeted with three conservatively-dressed women who begin performing experiments, not seduction. We don't see them cheekily butt-bump the guy out of his seat, and we don't see the man react with a "oh ma gosh, that there's women doing science things!" expression. If this video is guilty of anything, it's that sort of cheese-ball 90s marketing where any relevant topic must somehow directly come through in the copy, such as the lipstick as the "I". If this director had made a sports "themed" ad, trust me, that "I" would have been a baseball bat.
Yeah, laziness and incompetence are usually the driving force behind offensive marketing. Very few people wake up in the morning and think to themselves, "Today, I'm going to stereotype an entire gender/race/creed in my ad copy! It'll be great!"Mike Kayatta said:This ad could have been much better, but a lack of creativity, not sexism, is the perpetrator.
Well said. And that is a surprisingly specific alternative ad.Dastardly said:Snip
I was thinking the same thing.Mike Kayatta said:If this video is guilty of anything, it's that sort of cheese-ball 90s marketing where any relevant topic must somehow directly come through in the copy, such as the lipstick as the "I". If this director had made a sports "themed" ad, trust me, that "I" would have been a baseball bat.