Scott Pilgrim gets dominated.

[Axzarious]

Scott Pilgrim was awsome in a was I cannot describe.

 

[Treefingers]

Scott Pilgrim hasn't opened in the UK yet, but I'd imagine it'll do well seeing as it's directed by Edgar Wright, who wrote and directed Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz. And those two are British classics.

Slightly off topic, but i seriously despair whenever someone calls Hot Fuzz a British classic. There are so SO many MUCH better British films than Hot Fuzz.

(Shaun of the Dead is pretty good though)

Deary me, post that on a forum like Empire and see what reaction you get, both Shaun and Hot Fuzz were fantastic. I find it hard to decide which I like more. They are both in my list of favorite films.

Ah well, each to their own i guess, but i wouldn't even put Hot Fuzz in my top 5 British films, let alone favourite films overall.

 

[wrecker77]

I am very confused by all of the hate for "The Expendables". When did people stop loving cheesy action films and start liking pretentious lame stuff that is based off even more boring and pretentious indie comics?

I would pay twice as much to see Stallone give his worst performance than to see Michael Cera give his best.

By the way, do you think that Edgar Wright (the director of the Scott Pilgrim film) hates "The Expendables?" FUCK NO. He wrote Hot Fuzz, which was basically an homage to anything LIKE "The Expendables." He's probably goddamned honored to have a film open up next to Stallone.

Another thing:
Do I NEED to see Scott Pilgrim in theaters to get the full experience? No...it'll do just fine on DVD.
The Expendables NEEDS, nay, DEMANDS to be seen in the theater. Chances are it will end up in a 5 dollar bin in 2 years, so it HAS to bank on the theatrical run.

I love Edgar Wright, I really do. I hope he continues to make films...but he'll be just fine in second place.

What thread are you reading? Almost everyone here is hating on Scott pilgrim.

Also, he didn't come in first place, he came in... 5th I think.

 

[Hugh Mann]

I resent you implying that I'm not a pompous elitist know-it-all though, these are badges I wear with pride.

So you're a teenager/uni student that thinks they're one of the few people that thinks for themselves? Where is that old picture of all those people on the train thinking the exact same thing again? I really should save that for future reference.

Also, you seem to have forgotten the vitally important parts from what you quoted. You know, the horse's ass, dipshit, douchebag part of the title that goes with being a pompous, elitist know-it-all?

You can have those last few. I'm giving them to you. You've earned them.

For future reference I am neither a teenager, nor am I a uni student. Been there, graduated that. Just a well adjusted intelligent adult who doesn't enjoy macho American action movies designed to whip frat kids into a frenzy. Call it better taste, call it what you will.

Better taste? don't be so quick to discount a good as action film as juvenile, they said the same thing about about rock n roll back in the day (as opposed to classical music), don't try to act cerebral, its a different taste not better

OT: Scott Pilgrim felt like it stopped every five seconds to wink at you and say "Hey remember this video game, aren't we clever?!?" or "Hey we're breaking the fourth wall, isn't that imaginative?!?", Expendables looks a lot more straight forward, and less pretentious

Give me one example of the breaking the fourth wall thing your talking about. Use spoilers.

Its not in the plot ala Spaceballs or something, its in the art style, especially the faux-Tarentino cut shots

plus:
http://movies.gamezone.com/reviews/item/scott_pilgrim_vs_the_world_film_review1/http://www.oregonlive.com/movies/index.ssf/2010/08/scott_pilgrim_vs_the_world_bom.html

 

[shadowstriker86]

Some things should just stay comic books, and Michael Cera is a terrible actor.

yay someone else on this damn planet agrees with me!!!

 

[FinalHeart95]

Wait... really? I know a TON of people that went to see this movie, a hell of a lot more than The Expendables anyway. Actually, I know exactly one person that saw The Expendables, but he also saw Scott Pilgrim twice.

Maybe my friends are just awesome. >_>

 

[Elephant Walker19]

The expendable has Jet Li in it..

Spoiler: Look

How can you say no to that smile!?

 

[Kavonde]

You know, I haven't seen the Expendables, but I'm rapidly growing to hate it just on the basis that it's beating Scott Pilgrim so badly and that so many people (on this forum and elsewhere) are bashing Scott Pilgrim for being "pretentious" and for "hipsters" and blah dee blah up yours.

Scott Pilgrim is a film that everyone between the ages of 15 and 30 needs to see. Not just for the nerdy video game jokes and awesome kung fu, but so they can absorb the damn metaphor. We're a fairly fucked up generation for a variety of reasons, and the message this film has (that self respect is more important than "love," and that if you want something, you need to fight for it) is something that a hell of a lot of us need to learn.

Plus, this is the first film aimed exclusively at our generation. If it fails, we ain't getting another for awhile.

And for those of you who just can't stand Michael Cera...I can't either. But you know what? He's not that bad here. And even when you do want to punch him, well, the movie wants you to, too. Scott Pilgrim isn't the most likable guy around. He's kind of a dick, kind of whiny, kind of shallow and self-absorbed.

And he can also summon a giant yeti with the Power of Rock.

Seriously. Go see the freaking movie. Don't just look down your nose and call it "hipster" (gee, snubbing something because you identify it with a subcultural stereotype you dislike sure makes them look like elitist douches), and don't just pass it by out of hatred for Michael Cera.

It's a good movie. It's an important movie. It's an awesome movie.

Fuck the Expendables.

 

[Lord Beautiful]

So, the big ass action flick with nearly every major Hollywood action star of the past two decades does better than what could easily be described as Twilight for gamer hipsters. I are much confuse.

 

[vento 231]

I like real action movies, I think I would rather see the expendables.

 

[PsionicAtlas]

I am really surprised by all the hate for Scott Pilgrim..I'm probably gonna get flamed for the honest opinion I'm about to state but here goes.

For all these people who are not seeing Scott Pilgrim based on the notion that they assume its a hipster movie for gamers, or a male twilight. If they are doing it strictly on this, then these people have no right to judge say Ebert not calling games art. Or say the gaming hate from Thompson and such. That seems harsh but you are essentially doing the same thing they did, judging on APPEARANCE without actually seeing it. I've seen Scott Pilgrim and I'll tell you, it's a laugh riot and highly enjoyable. I honestly didn't find it pretentious at all as people are calling it as such(again without trying it). Maybe that makes me a hipster, though most evidence to my real life proves to be a contradiction to that fact, but it's still an enjoyable movie.

Not to say I'm looking past its weakness' which it does have a few, but I'm saying it's worth a try and do not judge on what you've not seen. On that note I'm not hating on The Expendables...hell I plan to see that too. It has an awesome cast that is doing what they do best. I could call it on appearance a thick-headed, 2D action movie. But I haven't seen it yet, and even if it is I bet I'll still enjoy it.

TL;DR, don't bash Scott Pilgrim without seeing it, because it was a good movie with many laughs. But don't bash The Expendables either because it has an all-star cast doing what they do best. Mindless carnage. (Oh and also I probably fall in the target market for both of these being 20 in case anyone was wondering and that might make my opinion void)

 

[zen5887]

Seriously. Go see the freaking movie. Don't just look down your nose and call it "hipster" (gee, snubbing something because you identify it with a subcultural stereotype you dislike sure makes them look like elitist douches), and don't just pass it by out of hatred for Michael Cera.

I really think this statement needs more attention!

My hat is indeed off to you sir =)

 

[SomebodyNowhere]

I loved Scott Pilgrim and I am going to see it again.
I think the movie will be like Edgar Wrights other big movies Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz where it has small success at the box office and then grows a cult following later on.

 

[Steppin Razor]

You know, I haven't seen the Expendables, but I'm rapidly growing to hate it just on the basis that it's beating Scott Pilgrim so badly and that so many people (on this forum and elsewhere) are bashing Scott Pilgrim for being "pretentious" and for "hipsters" and blah dee blah up yours.

Scott Pilgrim is a film that everyone between the ages of 15 and 30 needs to see. Not just for the nerdy video game jokes and awesome kung fu, but so they can absorb the damn metaphor. We're a fairly fucked up generation for a variety of reasons, and the message this film has (that self respect is more important than "love," and that if you want something, you need to fight for it) is something that a hell of a lot of us need to learn.

I've seen enough frigging movies lately trying to ram their metaphorical bullshit down my throat. I despise it in musicians when they make political songs and I sure as hell despise it when a fucking movie tries the exact same thing with me. I'm tired of every second movie forcing its view on me instead of leaving itself open to interpretation. What happened to films that people could sit back and decide what it meant to them?

Plus, this is the first film aimed exclusively at our generation. If it fails, we ain't getting another for awhile.

And? From where I'm standing, I see this as a good thing. If it fails it means we might stop getting movies with 18-24 year old leads that are nervous around "the girl" that is far beyond their means, there'll be an end to "witty" and "clever" references to nerd culture and I won't have any more god damned bloody metaphors getting rammed down my throat.

And for those of you who just can't stand Michael Cera...I can't either. But you know what? He's not that bad here. And even when you do want to punch him, well, the movie wants you to, too. Scott Pilgrim isn't the most likable guy around. He's kind of a dick, kind of whiny, kind of shallow and self-absorbed.

I don't have a problem with Cera.

 

[mrdude2010]

I'm hardly surprised. The entire set-up of Scott Pilgrim never grabbed me as particularly public-friendly, let alone any good. Not many people actually want to see a film with a nerdy main protagonist, particularly one which is fighting for a fantasy girlfriend, whereas there's still a lot of nostalgia for the action stars of The Expendables.

Hell, I wasn't even around for the hey-day of the characters in the latter, yet I'd still be a lot more interested in it. It strikes me as a lot more fun than the offensively unrealistic portrayal of a loser getting the girl in the end.

the expendables really is just every action star ever except chuck norris and samuel L jackson put into one movie which is appealing in its own way... i was planning on waiting for the DVD for scott pilgrim

Jackson? He's not an action star.

not really but he's BA enough from snakes on a plane and star wars to be included in my book =p

 

[lewism247]

Noooooooooo!

I stand by my belief that Scott Pilgrim was the second best film this year after Inception, but honestly I'm not surprised. A movie full of retro video game references based off a small-time graphic novel doesn't really stand a chance against a movie with every action star ever in it, regardless of how awesome the former is and how terrible the latter.

I don't care though, I mark it as another success in Edgar Wright's perfect record. It was so great.

The lack of Samuel Jackson automatically renders the main selling point of The Expendables invalid.

I think we should all go see Scott Pilgrim. Right now.

Plus, as I've said: People are drugged monkeys who are easily entertained by random flashing coloured lights. That's the main reason The Expendables has made money at all.

Plus, as I've said: People are drugged monkeys who are easily entertained by random flashing coloured lights. That's the main reason The Expendables has made money at all.

That's so offensive. To monkeys. Even drugged they have better decision-making skills than average film-goers.

Seriously?

Cmon guys that's a bit much, sure there is a decent amount of people who are idiots but to say they are "drugged monkeys" or something so dumb that it'd be offensive for them to compared to them is a bit much.

Not every film you see needs to have a deep plot, intricate characters etc.

Surely you guys enjoy watching a cheesy action film every once in a while.

OP: As has been said, Scott Pilgrim was aimed at a specific audience whereas The expendables was aimed for the majority, plus it's got almost all the big action guys.

 

[Blindswordmaster]

You're surprised about this? Really? Dude, relax, Scott Pilgrim is going to make back what it cost, just give it a little time. Fuck man, you can't go ape shit after 3 days! I see Scott Pilgrim as a 'word of mouth' movie; the kind of thing that takes off after about a week when people see it and suggest it to their friends. Also, of course Expendables owned in it's opening weekend, big budget action movies always do! Then it'll putter out within the month.
Relax, go see Scott Pilgrim again and bring some friends.
On another tangent: Would it be wrong to see Scott Pilgrim and afterward sneak into Expendables?

 

[Oatmeel]

Seriously. Go see the freaking movie. Don't just look down your nose and call it "hipster" (gee, snubbing something because you identify it with a subcultural stereotype you dislike sure makes them look like elitist douches), and don't just pass it by out of hatred for Michael Cera.

I really think this statement needs more attention!

My hat is indeed off to you sir =)

I concur!
Scott Pilgrim is seriously one of the best movies of the year. In a musical standoff, a yeti is spawned by the power of rock and duels two dragons summoned by keyboardists. How can you not afford to see this movie?

 

[Connor Lonske]

Feh, I thought the entire point of Scott Pilgrim was that he is a hipster, not main stream. If Scott Pilgrim is a sleeper hit, then so be it. I prefer cult films to blockbusters anyway.

 

[StriderShinryu]

I am sad that Pilgrim didn't do better than it did. though I honestly can't say I ever saw it having a huge audience to begin with. And this is coming from someone who went and saw both Expendables and Pilgrim on opening weekend (and loved both, though I'd personally give Pilgrim the edge).

I think the real important thing that most people here seem to be forgetting in all the Expendables VS Pilgrim debating is that, in the end we all won. Why? Because Eat Pray Love didn't come in first.