Severe musical misconceptions

[MalevolentJim]

A pretty funny misconception is that people who listen to alot of Black metal are actually open minded.That one makes me chuckle a lot.

 

[DeleteThisPlease]

Rap is the vocal styling, Hip Hop is the whole ensemble.

Perhaps. But they are far-enough apart that you can't really qualify Rap as Hip-Hop but Hip-hop as rap.

Like a square is a rectangle but a rectangle might not be a square.

Anyway, is there rap out there that is acually bareable to listen to? Because I have yet to find anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKJEHPer8gg

... Meh. It was... not my thing.

Ok, so there is rap out there that is bareable. Still don't like it, but not all rap is crap. Just gangster rap.

 

[I am Jack's profile]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

I completely agree. At least bands like Iron maiden had a rift. Todays metal is just yelling and the same note strummed 50 times with a double bass peddle hit every second.

ignorance overload. CRITICAL MASS

 

[Ironsouled]

"ALL rap and hip hop is commercial shit which only ever talks about bitches" and "guns"......I don't care if you don't like it but anyone who spouts this utter bollocks is a grade A cock-munch...

You are right indeed, sir, however alot of it IS bitches and guns. I love Superstar by Lupe Fiasco and then will go listen to Finntroll or Elvenking or Disturbed or any of my other music of choice... but that one song means not all of it is "commercial shit". Of course, I like Eminem as well... and that is mostly about bitches and guns. Not entirely, but a definite slant thataway.

OT: People calling Montgomery Gentry rock. I don't mind country, at least its beter than the majority of rap... but Montgomery Gentry isn't rock. Sorry peeps.

 

[TheSentinel]

People who think that Radiohead are "those emos who sang Creep" and nothing else.

 

[snow]

People that classify "Metal" as "Noise"

Every type of music takes at least some form of musical talent...

Heck, I'm very very picky with what I listen to, but to ignorantly say that it's not music just shows that you don't have the slightest clue in what goes on behind the scenes.

I myself don't like rap, but I know it takes some talent to produce. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's not music. Opinions are not facts

No, rap takes no talent, I can sit down and write a poem about shooting people and getting drunk that is overly repetitive, add some generic rhythmic beats and Viola I god damn emenim. I also think that most metal music is stupid, just guttural howling about satan or whatever, honestly I can't even understand the fucks.
OT: I would have to say that people need to stop confusing industrial with metal, I can hear the guy singing in industrial and it also has some sounds that are made by computers, industrial is, at it's core, metal meets techno, lighter music and identifiable lyrics, with super heavy guitar playing and good beats.

Yes, but you end up hearing the same names over and over again when it comes to rap and hip hop and the like.. So they must be doing something right, whereas I've never heard of you.

What I'm trying to say is, just because a certain style of music doesn't appeal to you, doesn't mean it's not music.. It's like saying hot pockets aren't food. o.0

 

[Dr.Susse]

It's better than having another genre you can get in a Wikipedia loop just looking at different all the different metal genres.

 

[JohnnySex]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

Although even i know Nickelback isnt Metal.

EDIT: Seeing as how i seem to have divided opinion with my post - Ill elaborate - I dont class screaming or throating gravelling as music.

You've obviously never listened to any real metal then... Try Iron Maiden. Or Judas Priest. Or Motley Crue. Or pretty much any other metal band from before the 90s. Not all metal is Slipknot and Cannibal Corpse. Be educated before you make judgments.

 

[Break]

I like it when people with little to no experience within a genre decide to judge that genre based on one or two songs they may not have immediately liked.

Just because you don't "get" something that doesn't make it bad. I don't like a lot of dance music, but I wouln't say it's all worthless. (I fucking love Daft Punk's Discovery album.)

In a thread titled "musical misconceptions, no less!

Now that's what we call irony.

 

[II2]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

Although even i know Nickelback isnt Metal.

EDIT: Seeing as how i seem to have divided opinion with my post - Ill elaborate - I dont class screaming or throating gravelling as music.

Might consider this to be in the [false] safe ground of 'opinion', but it's provably wrong through inductive comparison of popular consensus. Anything including (even just one of the following melody, harmony, dissonance, tone / timbre, rhythm, structure, vocals [lyrical, tonal or atonal], patterned or unpatterned sound created by man or man's machines.

Also, Noise is it's own genre and sub genres that have little common ground with Metal. Look up some audio samples of these bands and then you will understand what qualifies noise:

Adipocere, Aesthetic Meat Front, Aluminum Noise, Aube, Black Dice, Brighter Death Now, Chango Feo, CON-DOM, Contagious Orgasm, Control, Deathpile, Downpour, Emil Beaulineau, Eugenics Council, Extreme Music From Japan (compilations), Government Alpha, Gruntsplatter, Iannis Xenakis, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Knurl, LoSD, Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music", Masonna, Maurizio Bianchi, Megapetera, Merzbow, Moljbeka Pvlse, MZ 412, Navicon Torture Technologies, Niellerade Falibilisthorstar, Painslut, Pierre Schaeffer, Purient, SKM-ETR, Survival Unit, Sutcliffe Jugend, Turbund Stermwerk, Whitehouse, Wolf Eyes.

 

[Daveman]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

I completely agree. At least bands like Iron maiden had a rift. Todays metal is just yelling and the same note strummed 50 times with a double bass peddle hit every second.

Dude, it's "riff". Also I disagree. Metal encompasses Maiden, therefore Metal is music. You ignore a lot of modern metal like Dragonforce who I don't particularly like but they are nothing like what you described.

I'll also bring up this, to show how metal does not care for your opinion anyway...

Spoiler: BAM!

Sorry man, I have consumed a lot of alchohol, My night out fell through so I am drunk on the internet. Please excuse all mistakes.

See my other posts for my opinion on this matter.

[sub]The ones in this thread[/sub]

Oh... that's better than when I come back home after a night out and proceed to be on the internet REALLY drunk and exhausted, which happens way too often. You are absolved.

 

[maninahat]

Seeing Joss Stone catagorized as "Blues". Oh my great goodness, no.

One common misconception comes in regards to classical music. Classical music (with a big C) refers to a specific period of classical music (small c) that comes after Baroque and before Romantic. As such people will use the two interchangeably. This creates a whole lot more confusion when you count "contemporary classical" in with the old fashioned classical people are more familiar with. Should minimalist and post-modern works count as within the same genre as the works of Mozart?

 

[Insanum]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

Although even i know Nickelback isnt Metal.

EDIT: Seeing as how i seem to have divided opinion with my post - Ill elaborate - I dont class screaming or throating gravelling as music.

You've obviously never listened to any real metal then... Try Iron Maiden. Or Judas Priest. Or Motley Crue. Or pretty much any other metal band from before the 90s. Not all metal is Slipknot and Cannibal Corpse. Be educated before you make judgments.

Once again - The way i class music:

Classic Rock[/B]
Motley Crue
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Metal[/B]
Slipknot
Cannibal Corpse.

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Ok, the thing is, there are SO many different types of metal nowadays anyway, It seems like (from an outsiders perspective) it may be a lot simpler to tar them all under the same branch (y'now, metal[/I].)

Now before you say it, I KNOW its the same as saying "If you dont like progressive rock, You'll hate classic rock", But if you cant stand modern day "metal", why would you want to investigate it further?

 

[Small Waves]

Despite popular belief, not all electronic music is techno.

Lo-fi is not synonymous with noise rock.

Indie is not a genre.

"Entry level" is a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Daveman]

She has got to where she by working hard.

Any by being naked on stage when there was a talent agent in the audience.

That.. actually never happened...

=\

Fine,half naked.Still sorta the same thing.

Yeah, lets say she got where she is because of her body and not her talent. That's totally not sexist.

Once again - The way i class music:

Classic Rock[/B]
Motley Crue
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Metal[/B]
Slipknot
Cannibal Corpse.

Well I think it's entirely justified for people to have a go at you if you classify music like THAT. Iron Maiden are Metal. They just are. I mean... they've got Iron in the friggin NAME. A METAL. *sigh*
I'd also refer to the spider diagram of rock which Jack Black draws in School of Rock. It quite clearly designates Maiden (and Judas Priest) as Metal, AS IT VERY WELL SHOULD.

Spoiler: EXIBIT A

 

[Mrkittycat]

a musical misconception is that disney music is good. It's not.
Side Note: I like being the only one listening to older rock at my school. Makes me feel awesome for some reason.

 

[RanD00M]

Yeah, lets say she got where she is because of her body and not her talent. That's totally not sexist.

She admitted it herself in an interview that when she was still unknown that she took most of her clothes on stage.And that there happened to be a talent agent in the audience.Or something along those lines.And I'm not saying that she's untalented.All I'm saying is that she wouldn't be the superstar she is today if she had kept her clothes on.And that she could be using her talent as a musician/songwriter in something better then pop.Stefani should be doing classical music instead,a genre where she would get respect for the music and not the body.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

Yeah, lets say she got where she is because of her body and not her talent. That's totally not sexist.

She admitted it herself in an interview that when she was still unknown that she took most of her clothes on stage.And that there happened to be a talent agent in the audience.Or something along those lines.And I'm not saying that she's untalented.All I'm saying is that she wouldn't be the superstar she is today if she had kept her clothes on.And that she could be using her talent as a musician/songwriter in something better then pop.Stefani should be doing classical music instead,a genre where she would get respect for the music and not the body.

Who respects classical music? Classical music's just meaningless pretty noise. [/delicious irony]

Besides, isn't the music itself body agnostic? If she's adored for her curves, that has nothing to do with the pop music itself. It's not like it's hard to imagine someone scantily dressed while performing a classical concerto. (I think I saved classical music!)

a musical misconception is that disney music is good. It's not.
Side Note: I like being the only one listening to older rock at my school. Makes me feel awesome for some reason.

Uh, Elton John in Lion King, Phil Collins in Tarzan, John Rzeznik in Treasure Planet? Disney does, on occasion, produce good animated films. Not all their musicals have songs which I'd listen to by themselves, but to say they're not "good" is ridiculous. I'm not going to rock out to Beauty and The Beast, but it's a fine movie and the songs suit it.

 

[JohnnySex]

By classing "Metal" as "Music". Its not, Its just noise.

Although even i know Nickelback isnt Metal.

EDIT: Seeing as how i seem to have divided opinion with my post - Ill elaborate - I dont class screaming or throating gravelling as music.

You've obviously never listened to any real metal then... Try Iron Maiden. Or Judas Priest. Or Motley Crue. Or pretty much any other metal band from before the 90s. Not all metal is Slipknot and Cannibal Corpse. Be educated before you make judgments.

Once again - The way i class music:

Classic Rock[/B]
Motley Crue
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Metal[/B]
Slipknot
Cannibal Corpse.

--

Ok, the thing is, there are SO many different types of metal nowadays anyway, It seems like (from an outsiders perspective) it may be a lot simpler to tar them all under the same branch (y'now, metal[/I].)

Now before you say it, I KNOW its the same as saying "If you dont like progressive rock, You'll hate classic rock", But if you cant stand modern day "metal", why would you want to investigate it further?

I guess that's somewhat reasonable.

 

[hannan4mitch]

snip

You think THAT'S bad? Somebody asked me who Black Sabbath were, and why they'd covered the Jonas Brothers' song, 'Paranoid'!

Wouldn't that be a recipe for disaster? Paranoid a la Black Sabbath was about some guy with paranoia/extreme depression (yes, I've heard the song), while the Jonas Dorks since they're emissaries from Disney can't, and probably won't, go near Black Sabbath!
Also, anybody in my immediate family saw this, they would go through the roof (especially my dad, who would be first in line for a Black Sabbath Guitar Hero game)