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Keepitclean

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A common and kinda annoying misconception that my metalhead friends have is that DJing and the making of 'techno' music takes no talent musical talent whatsoever. This is bullshit and I'm pretty sure they know it. Though that's not to say that there are a lot of DJs out there with no musical talent whatsoever.
 

wizzerd229

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I heard a guy say that there had been nothing new in music since 1970, I facepalmed so hard i almost broke my glasses
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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MalevolentJim said:
Gildan Bladeborn said:
It's highly ironic that Metal's least commercial sub-genres somehow became the 'face' of the genre as a whole, and now lead to the far more prevalent good bands getting dismissed as outliers in a sea of noisy crap. Most metal is good, but the parts we both think are terrible are what get all the attention (much easier to mock I suppose).
I agree with most of this post.The one thing I have against it is that(in my area at least)most people don't even know Black/Folk/Death/Power/Symphonic metal exists.They either hear a Slipknot,Metallica or Limp Bizkit song and assume that that's metal.So essentially Slipknot are in fact the face of metal (even though they shouldn't be.)

Which is understandable since these people (aka normal people) wouldn't look further into Metal,hence the lack of knowledge,hence the pointless hollow rants.
Well yes and no - most people have no idea those sub-genres exist, true enough, and if you ask kids these days to name a metal band they would probably give you names off your list, since that's probably all they've ever heard.

But folks who are completely ignorant of every facet of the genre and never listened to any metal in their entire life will nonetheless have a clear idea of what a 'Metal band' looks like, and that's...

[HEADING=3]Behold the face of all Metal in the minds of non-fans![/HEADING]


You don't even need to hear him play, just looking at him gives you a 100% accurate idea of how it would sound. This guy is why the general listening audience thinks metal is stupid and "just noise".
 

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z121231211 said:
That Techno is used to describe all Electronic Music.

Techno is actually a genre of Electronic Music.

Of course no one cares and most don't consider it music at all. Even I say "If it sounds different it's probably a completely different genre" with how many sub-genres there are. And you know you've been listening to too much when you can tell who made the song just by listening to it.

Really, I listen exclusively to Electronic Music. Mostly Happy Hardcore, but Hardstyle, Gabber, Hardscape, and Schranz have some good tracks to them.
I myself am a Drum & Bass fan more. I'm listening to a Happy Hardcore mix right now, its pretty damned epic.

That brings me to another misconception; If you like Drum & Bass you MUST like Dubstep because they compliment each other. This is wrong, yes they do compliment each other kinda. There is often slower sections in DnB tracks that epople could call Dubstep and vice versa. But that doesn't mean you will like them.

I myself despise Dubstep. It is too slow and boring.
 

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There is an amazing misconception amongst my teenage peers that the Beatles are not the greatest band of all time.
 

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Julianking93 said:
People seem to confuse that chinese torture device known as Lady Gaga as real music.
I believe you meant "Chinese torture device with the fashion sense of a coral reef"

Also, I've sworn to kill the next person who tells me that all female fronted metal bands are ripping off Evanescence. That misconception is really pissing me off...
 

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Oh, just thought of this one, another grand misconception is that to like genres like
Drum & Bass, House, Happy Hardcore etc. You must be on drugs. Seriously, this is THE most inaccurate misconception out there.
 

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Musical misconceptions? well dance (and all the so called "genres" that are exactly the same eg. electronic or trance) for a start is a massive musical misconception in itself.... because its not musical or even music.
 

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Uh-oh, music industry guy is here to spoil the fun.

Lots of silly misconceptions in this thread including those held by the posters criticising the misconceptions.

Regarding metal, whether you are a fan or you hate the stuff with a passion, see the excellent documentary "Metal: A Headbanger's Journey" for a comprehensive overview of the style as a whole and a list of metal sub-genres.

Regarding whether [insert your most hated artist/style here] is music or not - of course it is. You might think it's BAD music, and that's completely fine, but to say that it ISN'T music at all is obviously incorrect in every single case to which it is applied, no exceptions. It's like saying that a cat isn't an animal because you don't like cats. Electronic dance music, techno, trance, etc: I think this is mainly by-numbers garbage for the uncritical and E-happy. It's still music though. Sure, I'd like to be able to say "that's not music" but I know, deep in my heart, that I'd be full of shit and just taking a cheap shot.

Regarding rap: rap = a vocal style. Hip-hop = an overall cultural movement which encompasess music (rap vocal style, turntabling, beatboxing) and other cultural aspects (fashion, graffiti art, breakdancing, etc). None of this stuff has anything to do with "gangsters" or "sex and drugs" by default, but (the better) rappers do tend to rap about what affects their community and lifestyle (although usually not them personally, or they'd be dead, in jail or the STD clinic). Is it any good? Well, that's highly subjective, isn't it. You might think it sucks but millions disagree because they buy it and apparently love it, so who is right and who is wrong?

Lady Gaga - I don't understand why she is so hated, in 2010 this baffles me. I guess it's kind of trendy to hate her at the moment but I don't see anything all that different about her which deserves hatred. So she dresses a bit funny - so fucking what, what pop star doesn't dress funny, people have been dressing weird in music ever since David Bowie donned a lady dress for the front cover of "The Man Who Sold The World" in 1970 (and probably before then, too). Dressing funny (or undressing funny) is a way to get people's attention, having great songs and being a great performer is then how you hold that attention. She's obviously extremely talented, other people have linked YouTube evidence in this thread so I won't. Sure she says a few outlandish things to the press sometimes and exhibits strange behaviour on occasion - so did just about every popular rock or pop artist you could name active from 1920 onwards. Lady Gaga has songs people like, and people buy them in their millions. No-one is forcing people to like these songs and to buy them. She makes pop music because it sells, and she wants to make it. People buy it because they want to hear it. If you don't like her music, don't hate her for it, that's just silly and a waste of your energy. Instead, just don't buy her music.

Punk - highly subjective term. No clear consensus has ever been made on what "punk" is, so it's fairly nigh-on impossible to determine if it has "died" or not. Some people say it died as far back as 1977, yet there are still thousands of "punk" bands active around the world, so either punk is what you make it, or someone has obviously slipped up somewhere.
 

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Death metal, hardcore, whatever else, all those bands that have screaming, growling, etc involve no talent.

I would love to see the people who say this to pick up a guitar, drumsticks, a bass guitar or a synth and play the same thing. Because if you need no talent to play hardcore, surely you'd be able to grab a guitar and go for it, right...?

EDIT: oh and,

Every female fronted band ever is either ripping off Evanescence or Paramore. No exceptions.

This enrages me. Due to the fact that I already have some similarities to Hayley Williams from Paramore (red hair, septum piercing, similar body shape), me and my band used to (jokingly) get compared to Paramore. This eventually pissed off the rest of the band so much that they stopped having me as their lead singer and, because I can play bass, moved me into the position of the bassist and backing vocalist, and put the old bassist as the lead vocalist. At that point, I decided to leave the band because I prefer singing. Bass is just a hobby of mine.
 

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what is ROCK band doing with a country song pack? nobody wants country on ROCK band, thats why its called ROCK band and not country band/hero.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
A while ago a girl at work thought that Jay-Z's rapeage of Forever Young was the original version of that song. I wept. Some hours after that I heard a happy hardcore version of the same song, I wept again.
This one?
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Small Waves said:
Indie is not a genre.
It more of a "as long as I call them this, even though they're popular now, I'll still be cool!" thing, isn't it?
Mostly, even though it's used to refer to artists not signed to a big label.
 

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Oh, and I despise how the term "hardcore" was co-opted by electronic music. That is not hardcore. The term was coined to describe a type of punk music, and thats all it should describe.
 

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Darwins_Folly said:
Oh, and I despise how the term "hardcore" was co-opted by electronic music. That is not hardcore. The term was coined to describe a type of punk music, and thats all it should describe.
Oh, this i completely agree with. When people ask me what genres I like, when I say hardcore, they think I mean the electronic-type one...

Hannan4mitch said:
Lexodus said:
Cowabungaa said:
You think THAT'S bad? Somebody asked me who Black Sabbath were, and why they'd covered the Jonas Brothers' song, 'Paranoid'!
Wouldn't that be a recipe for disaster? Paranoid a la Black Sabbath was about some guy with paranoia/extreme depression (yes, I've heard the song), while the Jonas Dorks since they're emissaries from Disney can't, and probably won't, go near Black Sabbath!
Also, anybody in my immediate family saw this, they would go through the roof (especially my dad, who would be first in line for a Black Sabbath Guitar Hero game)
Now, I don't particularly like the Jonas Brothers, but they do actually have a decent taste in music. Demi Lovato, another one of these "stars" shat out by Disney Channel, loves Job For A Cowboy, Lamb of God, Guns n Roses, etc (she said so in an interview. My sister pointed it out because she knows I love LoG). The Jonas Brothers apparently also like that kind of thing. While the music they make might not be good, you gotta at least give them a wee bit of credit for the surprisingly good music taste.
 

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Darwins_Folly said:
Oh, and I despise how the term "hardcore" was co-opted by electronic music. That is not hardcore. The term was coined to describe a type of punk music, and thats all it should describe.
Hardcore techno is different from regular techno, as it uses distorted/harsher bass beats, is influenced by industrial themes/sounds, and is generally faster (165 to 180 BPM) than regular techno (120-150 BPM). It's really silly to think that a term should belong to only one type of music.
 

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Darwins_Folly said:
Oh, and I despise how the term "hardcore" was co-opted by electronic music. That is not hardcore. The term was coined to describe a type of punk music, and thats all it should describe.
I thought the correct term was "Hardstyle" for techno, and "Hardcore" for metal.
 

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Gildan Bladeborn said:
[HEADING=3]Behold the face of all Metal in the minds of non-fans![/HEADING]


You don't even need to hear him play, just looking at him gives you a 100% accurate idea of how it would sound. This guy is why the general listening audience thinks metal is stupid and "just noise".
When I saw that pic, War Pigs started playing in my head, shortly followed by Diary of a Madman.

OT: People thinking that cowboy hat = country music. Oh, and also thinking that Hollywood Undead is good.

You know, I probably shouldn't be such an ass about this. I mean, this threadmaker probably just wanted to hear some funny stories about music store clerks accidentally putting Lamb of God in the christian rock section (which I saw once), and here we are turning it into a music genre flame war.