Sexist gaming moments (that's sexist not sexiest)

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"That's something I still don't really understand, why male gamers would still do that in this day and age. I reckon that gamers in general are usually a bit more progressive than average people, yet male gamers still look at girl gamers like that. I'd never go easy on a girl, if anything I enjoy playing competitively with a girl, and a part of me finds it even more fun to gets his ass handed to me by a girl..."

I think it's to do with upbringing, like how guys are raised not to hit girls, so they don't go all out on them by default.
 

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r0qu3 said:
DO SOMETHING...and do it with some other GIRLS...
Bow chika bow wow!

Sorry, back on topic.

As Rogue has pointed out, gaming is directed at males because it's a pastime that appeals to males more than females. I'm not being sexist in that statement, it's a fact. In my old clan there were over a hundred members and maybe half a dozen were female.

The majority of teaching and nursing jobs are filled by women, but you don't see men out on the streets protesting about sexism.
 

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IckleMissMayhem said:
Harvest Moon, your wife has to ask you if she can continue working after you marry. Grrrrr
Really? I'm a big fan of Harvest Moon and I never noticed that! Which one is that in?
 

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*sigh* my wife is a casual gamer. this doesn't mean that she plays Cooking Mama, this means she doesn't play often enough to get into FPS games, but loves the RPG genre, fighting games, and Civ Revolution. In Civ Revolution, she pointed out yesterday that there's not a single female leader who doesn't show enough cleavage to get her executed in each one's time period.
 

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mysticite said:
Being female I feel that I should be outraged by every sexist thing in gaming.

...I'm not.

Okay, why do we female always end up as the sidekick? The majority of games have a female sidekick, where's the male sidekick to the female lead?
Honestly, it doesn't really bother me.

Women are NOT an item gaming wise, i.e. games where you marry, etc. Or at least, they shouldn't be.
But hey, men what do you think of us as? Other than pleasure objects? ;)
(note my sarcasm)
There seems to be a certain irony in the fact that, under your username, it says "Paperboy"

I don't really notice it in games, although that may be because of this wave of hyper-vigilant politically correct-ness
 

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The females in this thread are really stealing the show, huh? Can we actually talk about sexism in games rather than, "I'm a female gamer LOOKIT ME I DUN CARE 'BOUT SEXISM." Yes, that's very nice dear. Run along and play.

The sad thing is that most of you don't quite understand what sexism is.

Sexism isn't Mrs. Pacman in a bow. It's not Team Ninja creating a woman made of boobs. It's the belief that one gender is inferior to the other. You find me a game that actually asserts this and I'll find you a sexist game. Everything else is just ignorance and social stereotypes that you've been brainwashed to believe to be 'sexist'. It's akin to calling Resident Evil 5 racist because you get to shoot black people.

Even those Cthulhudamned pink games aren't sexist. They don't assert that women are inferior to men, just that they think girls would like to play what they're selling. It's a marketing strategy.

You know that marketing agencies typically market to women because, statistically, mom holds the checkbook? Are they sexist for doing this? No, of course not, they're capitalists.

mysticite said:
All caring will do is make me have to put effort into something other than gaming and masses of work. I haven't got the time to care about being a female gamer. If I was paid to care about being a female gamer, that'd be great, but I'm not, and getting paid takes precedent over most things.
For someone who doesn't care, you sure won't shut up about not caring. In the time it takes you to explain that you don't care (and, by golly, you've taken time to explain that you don't care), you could care. But then that might require effort and a leg to stand on. D:
 

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mysticite said:
Being female I feel that I should be outraged by every sexist thing in gaming.

...I'm not.

Okay, why do we female always end up as the sidekick? The majority of games have a female sidekick, where's the male sidekick to the female lead?
Honestly, it doesn't really bother me.

Women are NOT an item gaming wise, i.e. games where you marry, etc. Or at least, they shouldn't be.
But hey, men what do you think of us as? Other than pleasure objects? ;)
(note my sarcasm)
I think it's because it's still a novelty to have a female lead and it directs attention away from the actual game. Consider, Tomb Raider, Wet, Perfect Dark; in all these games the fact the protagonist is a woman seems to overshadow the actual games.

As the marketing team belive we're all a bunch of moronic one-handed typers that focusing on the T&A will sell the game. Sadly the male gaming population doesn't do itself any favours as they vote with their penis rather than their wallet which just leads to even more crappy games with even bigger fun bags, longer bullet-time sequences and dumbed down gameplay.
 

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I still remember the advert for Zelda: Ocarina of Time "save the girl or play like one".

I thought it was pretty funny, but I remember CVG magazine getting up at arms about it back in the day.

GBlair88 said:
As Rogue has pointed out, gaming is directed at males because it's a pastime that appeals to males more than females. I'm not being sexist in that statement, it's a fact. In my old clan there were over a hundred members and maybe half a dozen were female.

The majority of teaching and nursing jobs are filled by women, but you don't see men out on the streets protesting about sexism.
Nail on the head.
 

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Flos said:
The females in this thread are really stealing the show, huh? Can we actually talk about sexism in games rather than, "I'm a female gamer LOOKIT ME I DUN CARE 'BOUT SEXISM." Yes, that's very nice dear. Run along and play.

The sad thing is that most of you don't quite understand what sexism is.

Sexism isn't Mrs. Pacman in a bow. It's not Team Ninja creating a woman made of boobs. It's the belief that one gender is inferior to the other. You find me a game that actually asserts this and I'll find you a sexist game. Everything else is just ignorance and social stereotypes that you've been brainwashed to believe to be 'sexist'. It's akin to calling Resident Evil 5 racist because you get to shoot black people.

Even those Cthulhudamned pink games aren't sexist. They don't assert that women are inferior to men, just that they think girls would like to play what they're selling. It's a marketing strategy.

You know that marketing agencies typically market to women because, statistically, mom holds the checkbook? Are they sexist for doing this? No, of course not, they're capitalists.

mysticite said:
All caring will do is make me have to put effort into something other than gaming and masses of work. I haven't got the time to care about being a female gamer. If I was paid to care about being a female gamer, that'd be great, but I'm not, and getting paid takes precedent over most things.
For someone who doesn't care, you sure won't shut up about not caring. In the time it takes you to explain that you don't care (and, by golly, you've taken time to explain that you don't care), you could care. But then that might require effort and a leg to stand on. D:
This man speaks the truth.
 

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The reason female characters mostly end up as the sidekick is that if they ever ARE the main character their usually a complete *****.
 

Ammadessi

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Eatbrainz said:
The reason female characters mostly end up as the sidekick is that if they ever ARE the main character their usually a complete *****.
That's just poor characterization though. It would be possible to have a female main character that isn't a *****, however the gaming industry isn't really known for having every single game populated by well-rounded characters, and women are no exception. They're the damsel in distress, they're the *****, or they're the love interest. It's not just women though, male characterization is equally as poor.
 

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Ammadessi said:
Eatbrainz said:
The reason female characters mostly end up as the sidekick is that if they ever ARE the main character their usually a complete *****.
That's just poor characterization though. It would be possible to have a female main character that isn't a *****, however the gaming industry isn't really known for having every single game populated by well-rounded characters, and women are no exception. They're the damsel in distress, they're the *****, or they're the love interest. It's not just women though, male characterization is equally as poor.
Your right there, its just that when you look at games like Wet or Tomb Raider its hard NOT to give up hope on female main chacracters, male ones are often equally as bad though, im not sure how many times we can have games featuring "Tommy Testostorone Tits, a rugged short brown haired prick" before we bang on the dev's doors demanding original stuff.
 

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Unless you take it serious nothing can be sexist. Not really.
I tend not to take most games that seriously, just for what they are: A form of escapism.
 

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I think sexism in games isn't really as important as sexism in gamer culture and the circular argument that keeps it that way.

Girls don't play games because developers don't make games aimed at girls because girls don't play games.

Most of the games that are geared toward a female audience are almost condescending in their pink-paletted social-simulator shallowness. If your local game store has a "games for girls" section, it will probably include games like Horsez, Babyz, and Bratz, and feature a variety of mindless, cutesy gimmicks packaged together in a single box. I have never seen a game aimed at girls that also attempted a story or deep characterization.

I think what we could all benefit from is a gaming culture that has stopped assuming that none, or a negligible minority, of its participants are female, and that female gamers are some kind of anomaly that somehow don't have any buying power or valid contributions to the community. Personally, I'd like to stop being asked to identify with passive female characters who can't do anything but be rescued or die at the hero's leisure, or with the hero, who I have nothing in common with anyway. If I have to choose between a female character and a male character to operate, I'd like it if the female character's abilities weren't inherently less useful and didn't involve sexual exploits. I'd like it if "games for girls" didn't immediately bring to mind pink frills, dress-up minigames, taking care of babies or animals or cooking or domestic chores.

But what I would like even more than that, is to be able to walk into any of various local game retailers by myself, take out my own wallet and use my own money to a game like Grand Theft Auto or Gears of War, and NOT be asked, "So what other games does your boyfriend like?" because they assume I couldn't possibly be buying it for myself.
 

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By definition, this thread its self if sexist. Therefore, you should hate it, and more to the point, never have even made it in the first place. There will always be stereotypes in any form of media, accept it and move on.
 

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Flos said:
mysticite said:
All caring will do is make me have to put effort into something other than gaming and masses of work. I haven't got the time to care about being a female gamer. If I was paid to care about being a female gamer, that'd be great, but I'm not, and getting paid takes precedent over most things.
For someone who doesn't care, you sure won't shut up about not caring. In the time it takes you to explain that you don't care (and, by golly, you've taken time to explain that you don't care), you could care. But then that might require effort and a leg to stand on. D:
Maybe it's because this thread is for discussion, did that ever cross your mind?
And it takes no more than a few seconds for me to type and post, it would take years to assert being a female gamer in the male dominated world! I don't care about being outnumbered by men, but I do care about having an opinion and not letting men think they're the superior race just because.
 

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Horny Ico said:
mysticite said:
The strange thing is when you have games with strong female leads (Wet is going to be the most up-to-date reference, but I guess all you guys bought it just for the view :p )
Read please. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/extra-punctuation/6662-Extra-Punctuation-Wet]
I already have; what was your point? ;D