Sexy "Power Armor", am I 'juvenile' for liking it? (a response to recent Kill La Kill concepts)

Bara_no_Hime

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MrHide-Patten said:
... that's not sexy power armor! That's a mech-themed magical girl. The fact that the outfit has a mouth and is shown to be its own character means that this is a magical outfit of some sort. Also, as pointed out, armor kinda needs to have more coverage than that to be armor and not... well a magical outfit.

Or, to put it another way:

That's not sexy power armor. THIS is sexy power armor:



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Note - I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you for liking the character design from Kill La Kill. It's a neat magical girl outfit (and some of the magical girls in the Madoka spin-offs aren't dressed in much more than that). But that's what it is - a magical girl outfit.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
... that's not sexy power armor! That's a mech-themed magical girl. The fact that the outfit has a mouth and is shown to be its own character means that this is a magical outfit of some sort.
Is magic not a power?

Bara_no_Hime said:
Also, as pointed out, armor kinda needs to have more coverage than that to be armor and now... well a magical outfit.
No, No it doesn't.

Armour is simply a protective covering that prevents damage. It can cover as much or as little as it wants.
 

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Fuck context, and anyone who tells you otherwise. If you like it, enjoy yourself.

You're not juvenile, you just like something that other people seem not to, though I suspect that it might be people attempting to look more "mature".

Also, bad guys aim for the shiny parts.
 

Bara_no_Hime

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Is magic not a power?
Magic is a power, yes.

However, magical armor is not powered armor. Powered armor refers to a specific mech sub-genre where the mech suits are human sized and act like mechanical suits of full-plate. Iron Man wears power armor.

Thor, to continue with the Avengers comparison, meanwhile, has a magical item that grants him powers and protects him. (yes, Thor also has his own powers outside of the hammer, but the hammer certainly appears to increase those powers)

The girl pictured by the OP has a magical outfit that grants her powers and protects her - it has a mouth, can emote, and one assumes uses some power other than armor to protect her various vital bits in combat. Thus Magical Girl not Powered Armor. I even acknowledged that her magical girl theme appeared to be "mech" which is likely where the confusion came from in the first place.

wulf3n said:
No, No it doesn't.
Armour is simply a protective covering that prevents damage. It can cover as much or as little as it wants.
Um, no actually. Armor is a solid plating or ring-mail that protects something. It can be made out of various things, but "magical willpower" is not one of those things.

To, to put another way, sun screen protects my skin from UV rays. You, however, wouldn't call that armor - at best, you'd call it a "defense screen" against certain types of radiation.

Likewise, you wouldn't call a citronella candle "insect armor" - you'd call it insect repellant.

Maybe her suit creates a magical (or even an electro-magnetic) field that protects her. That still isn't armor. It might be force-shields, it might be an entropic field, it might be divine grace, or it might be wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey, but it ain't armor.

And, even if it creates a magical force field that we can't see in that image, it still isn't powered armor because powered armor is a specific sub-genre that this anime clearly does not belong to.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
MrHide-Patten said:
... that's not sexy power armor! That's a mech-themed magical girl. The fact that the outfit has a mouth and is shown to be its own character means that this is a magical outfit of some sort. Also, as pointed out, armor kinda needs to have more coverage than that to be armor and not... well a magical outfit.

Or, to put it another way:

That's not sexy power armor. THIS is sexy power armor:



Edit:
Note - I'm not saying there's anything wrong with you for liking the character design from Kill La Kill. It's a neat magical girl outfit (and some of the magical girls in the Madoka spin-offs aren't dressed in much more than that). But that's what it is - a magical girl outfit.
65 posts before BGC showed up. For shame. Nobody has respect for the classics.

Although I probably would've gone with the somewhat sleeker 2040 version of the hardsuit.
 

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My entire problem with the whole idea of "Sexy armor" has nothing to do with being offended by such things on any moral basis but because such armor offends my sensibilities. Armor that is sexy tends to be highly revealing which is incredibly counter productive.
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
However, magical armor is not powered armor. Powered armor refers to a specific mech sub-genre where the mech suits are human sized and act like mechanical suits of full-plate. Iron Man wears power armor.
Powered armour simply refers to armour that requires a power source for its protection. Mechanical suits are simply a subset of power armour, they are not its only set.

Bara_no_Hime said:
Um, no actually. Armor is a solid plating or ring-mail that protects something. It can be made out of various things, but "magical willpower" is not one of those things.
Kevlar is neither a solid plate or ring-mail but it is still armour.

You're adding restrictions to the definition based on your opinion but it's not what armour is.
 

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That is armour in the same way that rotten vegetables are fine dining. (In case it's not clear, that means not at all)
Regardless, you don't have to justify what you like. Just because gender issues are a big thing right now doesn't mean you have to feel guilty about liking stuff like this.
 

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Necromancer Jim said:
It would be practical with some shin guards. Seriously, that girl showing off her ankles like that can get stoned for indecency in some some countries.
 

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I honestly think the mature thing to do would be to not concern yourself.

But since you asked, that reeks of juvenile sexual fantasy, yes.
 

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MiskWisk said:
AccursedTheory said:
Oh you misguided fool, abandon your false cause for the greater good!




OT: Whatever your tastes OP. We can say it's juvenile, but at the end of the day, so long as it isn't child porn, draw what you like!
You're both weak, delicious fools clad in stupid tin suits. There is no armour more perfect for defending yourself than


Of course, armour can only protect you from the hordes for so long. If you want to survive, you have to be able to kill. And what good are your handful of guns compared to the horrific potential for slaughter of...

I think a certain amount of artistic licence should be expected with these things, but it is going a bit beyond that when your 'armour' offers significantly less protection than the average bikini.
 

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Gah, I can't stand those types of "armor" they irritate me to no end. Mostly because when I'm searching for armor mods on the Skyrim Nexus there is like 10000 of those slutty armor mods on each damn page.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
If stupid looking power armor was a sin to like, then I'd have quit liking Warhammer 40K long ago. Marines get brick shithouses, while Sisters of Battle get a space corset. Despite that, it still looks like armor. Must be the pauldrons. They make anything look like armor.
As far as female armour goes, the Sisters of Battle do pretty well, they're pretty much in third place behind Femshep in her default armour and Samus. Yeah it's a corset, but at least the rest of her is properly armoured. And considering the hyper exaggerated setting, it's a miracle that the SoBs are actually so conservatively dressed. And lets be honest here, the day a female gets a non breasted chest plate is the day I eat my hat.

Edit: shit. Halo 4. Forget I said anything!
 

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Bara_no_Hime said:
... that's not sexy power armor! That's a mech-themed magical girl. The fact that the outfit has a mouth and is shown to be its own character means that this is a magical outfit of some sort. Also, as pointed out, armor kinda needs to have more coverage than that to be armor and not... well a magical outfit.
I am not sure what's the fuzz about using the word armor himesama, the wiktionary says that an armor is "A protective layer over a body, vehicle, or other object intended to deflect or diffuse damaging forces.", so if a bikini effectively deflects or diffuses damaging forces, ain't that an armor?
 

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SonOfVoorhees said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Doesn't armour have to...

You know. Armour a person, to be considered armour.

That isn't armour, it's a pandering sexual fantasy.
Exactly. One bullet to the stomach and she is down. Kinda makes all that armour pointless as its just slower her down, might as well not wear it with such an obvious target area to aim for.
Except in the anime, she'll somehow shrug off a ton of damage, despite her incredibly flimsy attire. You know, just once I would like to see an anime/JRPG that kicks off with a character with an outfit insanely impractical for battle wielding some ridiculous weapon heading into battle and we think this is going to be the main character until moments they unexpectedly drop dead. Cue reveal that they have just been taken out by a sniper over 2km away. That's what you get went you enter battle dressed like your going to a cosplay gathering.
 

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elvor0 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
If stupid looking power armor was a sin to like, then I'd have quit liking Warhammer 40K long ago. Marines get brick shithouses, while Sisters of Battle get a space corset. Despite that, it still looks like armor. Must be the pauldrons. They make anything look like armor.
As far as female armour goes, the Sisters of Battle do pretty well, they're pretty much in third place behind Femshep in her default armour and Samus. Yeah it's a corset, but at least the rest of her is properly armoured. And considering the hyper exaggerated setting, it's a miracle that the SoBs are actually so conservatively dressed. And lets be honest here, the day a female gets a non breasted chest plate is the day I eat my hat.

Edit: shit. Halo 4. Forget I said anything!
Well, you must remember that those are just the sisters that are armored (and the corset is mostly an aesthetic thing; it's still totally as protective as the rest). The repentia aren't really.... well, clothed. At all. Purity seals dont count. But at least 40k has the decency to keep the clothing consistent within the lore and not without reason (i.e. the repentia aren't clothed because they're kinda supposed to die in battle as penance for some prior mistake)

And Gears and reach haven't got breasted armor. Well, its sorta breasted. The armor kinda needs to bulge a bit when the wearer is busty, but the point is it fits the aesthetic and isn't any more revealing than the male armor. That's one of the things I really like in the relatively few games that do it, armor that is actually reasonable.