squid5580 said:
There is nothing wrong with being a Mormon either. Unless of course you actually believe the whole black people are inferior crap which is exactly what it is. And a gay person has just as much as a choice as a mormon does who you expect to walk away from thier religion. They can abstain from sex altogether. But of course if you are pro gay you are more than entitled to your "right" opinion. Pissing all over anothers religious beliefs, personal beliefs or beliefs in general is OK because you are right and they are wrong. Don't try and look at it from the other side for a second. Don't dare consider the 6000 years of conditioning that marriage is between a man and a woman. Just burn any anti gay at the stake and be done with it.
I would also like to ask how sure are any of you that this is the only game that had someone who is anti-gay marriage or racist didn't work on any other game. Are you absolutely sure everyone at Epic, Bungie and Valve are pro gay non racist vegetarians who have no religious or political views whatsoever. Are you positive that none of them using an internet handle such as yours or mine don't have blogs about the evils of gay marriage. At least he and the Miss America (or was it universe) are willing to stand up and say "I believe this is wrong" just like the millions of others who agree with them but are still in the closet and not willing to show thier face and say it out loud.
Oh since that comes across as very anti gay I will put something out there for the record. I could care less if gay people are allowed to or not get married. What I do care about is the ability to have an open dialogue about it and even if some of them sound batshit crazy (and both sides do at times) that they are protected enough to say it without consequence. Where bullshit like "OMG he is anti gay marriage lets punish not only him but the entire company he works for by boycotting something completely unrelated to the topic" doesn't happen because both sides are smart enough to realize that because one person abuses thier 15 minutes doesn't mean he is speaking for everyone on that side. Or for everyone in that company.
I don't want to get into a flame war here. And I apologize if my previous posts were a bit shrill in tone. I'm going to limit my reply to two points.
First, I'd like to point out that, as I noted in my original response, I am not promoting a boycott of Shadow Complex. In fact, I've already purchased the game. The reason is precisely the reason you cite in your second paragraph above. In almost any game, there is almost certainly some type of bigot who worked on the production. Card's role in the game appeared to be too tangential to justify a boycott. Had he been a major presence in the game, however, I might have considered a boycott.
Second, I'm just going to reaffirm my position that people should be held accountable by others for their beliefs, religious or otherwise. A person certainly has the right to be anti-gay, whether for religious or other reasons. But I also have the right to condemn such beliefs. The First Amendment protects people from being punished or silenced by the
government for expressing their opinions or holding a particular religious belief. The First Amendment does not, however, protect people from being criticized or boycotted or protested by other private citizens. Nor should it. The freedom to speak includes the freedom to boycott. Card is free to express his views. But he must also accept the consequences if other private citizens find his views loathsome. I may not be boycotting Shadow Complex, but I would certainly never buy a Card novel.
