Final Fantasy X springs to mind, with all their zealous crap with gods and evil technology and what-not.Susan Arendt said:Except they're already fairly Shatner-esque in their delivery, so I'm not sure all that much would change. Now, Shatner doing something like...I don't know, what's a really overwrought JRPG? You know, something with a lot of god references, or something. That'd be perfect.Valiance said:This is awesome.
Nothing else to say.
It makes me wonder if Shatner reading all the lines in Resident Evil would be better.
I thought rightwingers had the comedy stylings of Glen Beck.vultureX21 said:I agree with the first part, there is always a counter push after one side holds power long enough to make a mistake.Therumancer said:However, I anticipate we're liable to see at least 8 years overall of left wing control. Maybe 12. But like any "untouchable dynasty" it ALWAYS goes the other way. I'm just saying that most of us are going to be around in 4-12 years and people might want to think ahead to the inevitable snap back. I'd like to see a bit more maturity.
... and for the record, no... I do not think this would have been mocked this way if it was a left wing speech.
As for the unlikelihood of a left-winger being skewered for saying something so garbled and foolish you have to admire Jon Stewart's continued efforts to mock all of politics (those who have seen the "That's Great... Now Fix the Economy" skits know what I mean) and I'd prefer to see more of it myself. In reality no, there's not a lot of comedic stuff out there hitting the left but such is the fluctuation of opinion at the moment.
Media isn't a very complicated beast.dodo1331 said:I feel bad for Palin. The media has been, for the most part, very unforgiving with her mistakes. With Obama, its almost always praises.
Id be right with you if there was any evidence that torture actually works; and episodes of 24 don't count. Living in a country that used torture for thousands of years it doesn't work as people say anything to make it stop, even making things up. Often making things up. It doesn't tend to get accurate, actionable intelligence.Therumancer said:My holier than thou attitude simply comes down to stuff like this: With it's general human rights violations on it's own people, information control, etc.. China is not capable of handing torture. What it does is an atrocity. On the other hand in time of war when dealing with terrorists and sympathizers our actions which are directed at the enemy are something else entirely. There is a definate differance between attaching electrodes to the nads of a guy from an Al-Queda training camp to find out where the bomb/cell/hostages/etc.. are and sticking bamboo shoots under the finger nails of a pro-democracy demonstrator to teach him a lesson (or whatever the heck they decide to do this week).
That version of common people completely ruins the original with loud guitars and epic fail singing. Shatner respect -1.The Rogue Wolf said:I just... I can't wrap my head around this. First Rocket Man [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN3MGN899yE], then Common People [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXWEM4gZhg4], and now this. I don't think I can make fun of William Shatner anymore.
Well, maybe a little. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSnaQM]
Pretty much how I feel about the subject of torture.bjj hero said:Id be right with you if there was any evidence that torture actually works; and episodes of 24 don't count. Living in a country that used torture for thousands of years it doesn't work as people say anything to make it stop, even making things up. Often making things up. It doesn't tend to get accurate, actionable intelligence.Therumancer said:My holier than thou attitude simply comes down to stuff like this: With it's general human rights violations on it's own people, information control, etc.. China is not capable of handing torture. What it does is an atrocity. On the other hand in time of war when dealing with terrorists and sympathizers our actions which are directed at the enemy are something else entirely. There is a definate differance between attaching electrodes to the nads of a guy from an Al-Queda training camp to find out where the bomb/cell/hostages/etc.. are and sticking bamboo shoots under the finger nails of a pro-democracy demonstrator to teach him a lesson (or whatever the heck they decide to do this week).
Thats why much of the world has stopped doing it. Thats not a quick decision, we Europeans used to love our torture. It just doesn't work. Unless you need a quick conviction and you don't really care if the guys guilty or not. The inquisition actually invented Spanish water torture. The CIA made it cool again when they re branded it waterboarding. I guess it wouldn't sound very American if it still had torture in the name.
Torture gets information you want to hear, not information thats accurate. Look at the Brits treatment of the IRA. All torture got us was false convictions, meaning actual bombers kept walking the streets. Theres not that much difference between the IRA in the 80s and Al Qaeda now, except one of them had American funding. Care to guess which one?
So are the states that support your inhumane treatment of prisoners.Therumancer said:Normally I wouldn't care about your fly by, but you are red.Malygris said:Dude, any credibility you may have had in this conversation, or probably any other in the future, just went sailing out the window.
I'm searching vaguely, bearing in mind I only just got out of bed. The only thing I could find was:BlueInkAlchemist said:So are the states that support your inhumane treatment of prisoners.Therumancer said:Normally I wouldn't care about your fly by, but you are red.Malygris said:Dude, any credibility you may have had in this conversation, or probably any other in the future, just went sailing out the window.
Did Palin ever state her position on torture? (attempting to stay somewhat on-topic)
Grabbed the quote here [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26535811/page/5/]Palin's Acceptance Speech said:Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... [Obama]'s worried that someone won't read them their rights?