I'm using US retail store prices. Sorry I don't live in some 3rd world country in Europe where I have to have everything shipped in to me.Nutcase said:You forgot component, which the Wii needs to match the 360. Plus, where does your pricing data come from? Surely you aren't using bullshit MSRP's?Devildoc said:Hmm? I didn't need any extra peripherals to play my Wii when I first got it, extra controllers for local multiplayer sure but every console needs that for LOCAL multiplayer, and some people do have friends irl and it IS more fun to drink some beers and play a game in front of the TV all together than to do it all in different houses right?
so basically you need the console, and maybe a classic controller for virtual console, and a gamecube controller if you play gamecube games on it.. that's essentially it though. so $250 +$20.00 +$20.00 or so.. still under $300.
The 360 to get that.. $199.. then you need a hard drive which is $100 for a 60GB so why not just get the pro package in the first place ($299) then the HDMI cable which is $40 or more
PS3.. just the system in the box costs more.
Using the best price search engine for my country (prices include shipping),
Wii 230EUR
Classic controller 25EUR
Wii component cable 15EUR
GC controller 20EUR
tiny memory card 10EUR
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300EUR
360 Premium 225EUR
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225EUR
And how about when we want to add one player?
Wii Remote 43EUR
Nunchuck 22EUR
Classic controller 25EUR
GC controller 20EUR
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110EUR
360 wireless controller 42EUR
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42EUR
I continue to be amazed of how Nintendo is able to sell a glorified Gamecube at PS3 prices, but that's exactly what they are doing.
Also some of the stuff you're piling on is simply not needed. If you want a second, 3rd, 4th player, yes you need more remotes/nunchucks.. but the only time you NEED a classic controller is for some virtual console games, and the only time you need a gamecube controller or memory card is to play gamecube games. For retail Wii games, you don't need anything like that. That's like saying you need to add in a racing wheel with your xbox 360 purchase, even though you won't use it for most of your games, just racing games. Frankly if you're going to be playing a lot of Gamecube games on your Wii, you probably already have a gamecube, and the controllers/memory cards for it. So it's not an extra expense, and you're clutching at straws.
The only thing you have that's arguable is the component cable, but frankly, as a Wii owner, graphics aren't your high priority, so most Wii owners will be okay with the included composite cable. On the other hand, with the 360 you're doing yourself a huge disservice by not getting an HDMI cable. I mean the big selling point of the consoles is that they're HD, graphical and raw computing powerhouses
Anyway I've had my Wii for over a year, and I have 4 sets of controllers (only 1 classic controller though, 4 nunchuck/remote pairs is what I mean), and a couple Nyko perfect shots (yeah, I like rail shooters with my friends, sue me). Before I moved into a new apartment one of my roommates had a gamecube and 4 controllers so we'd use 4 of those controllers and have 8 player local bomberman blast (which is a ton of fun, let me tell you).. so I've spent quite a bit of money on it, but, I can have people come over to my apartment and play video games with me. In fact I do. Last weekend we had quite a brawl fest, even a couple of the girls jumped in and played. Almost a dozen people packed into a 1 bedroom apartment.. sheesh.. anyway.
My 360 I've only had for a month, and I can only play single player offline games (my living room is set up so that one way or the other, if I want my 360 to be on the internet, it has to have the cable stretch across a high traffic area.. not a good idea when there are people drinking walking back and forth there.
So to be fair, I'm only going to compare what I spent on my Wii to be able to play single player games, cause adding in the extra 3 sets of controllers and the second perfect shot well.. if I added in 3 more xbox controllers that'd run me up another $150 too so it'd come out pretty close either way.
Wii: $249.99 (core system, had 1 controller/nunchuck, composite cable, etc) + $19.99 (classic controller) + $14.99 (the perfect shot for Rail shooters) = $285 .. mind you I also have an SD card, but I originally bought it for my phone, but now use it in my Wii. It's 2GB, can't remember the original cost but they're $13 now, so, hypothetically $298. Don't forget that I can play online for brawl and such because it has built in wireless.
360: $299.99 (core system, 1 wireless controller, 1 headset, 60gb hard drive etc, I got the pro because the 60gb hard drive costs $100.00 anyway) + $39.99 (hdmi cable) = $340.. now if I wanted to play on xbox live I'd have to either risk drunk people tripping over a cable and breaking something.. or buying an xbox wireless network adapter ($76.96)... $417
That's over $100 more to play games online on the xbox than the wii.
Now let's say there were actually 360 games that were fun to play local multiplayer (yeah, the 360 seems to focus on internet based multiplayer, but let's be hypothetical, since having friends at your place is way more fun than playing with them over the internet).. so there was a reason for you to have 4 xbox 360 controllers.. that'd be $567 so that you can play 4 player local games and play online games as well. I've spent an estimated $490 on my Wii + extra controllers + accessories so that I can play 4 player local games and online games.
Now let's buy 10 games for each system, no greatest hits or price slashes we're talking brand new games.. 10 games on the wii, that's at $49.99 each.. $500. 360 they're $59.99 each.. so $600.
So no, the wii isn't outrageously priced and you aren't paying more for it.