Should "Cracker" be a racial slur?
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Nope. Leave it as a foodstuff that goes darn well with cheese. Never saw the offensive side to it anyways.
Well it already is a racial slur, but I'm guessing that that you mean by your post, OP, is "should it be as controversial a slur as "******" or "slope" or "wog"".
Call me extremely stereotypically white, but yeah, it should. Like many of the whites on here I'm not particularly offended by it, but I am offended by the fact that ethnic minorities are allowed to be racist against both whites and other ethnic minorities. I'm offended that that is not considered racism. There was apparently some philosopher on such matters in the 70s or something that said that racism = prejudice + power, and in that sense white people are the only people who are able to be racist (at least in English-speaking countries). I call bullshit on that one, and I am pretty sure that anybody of an ethnic minority that is not a total prick probably refrains from using the word "cracker" when not talking about Jatz or Saos.
Racism is a difficult issue, because there is a lot of it still around, even if people don't necessarily consciously realise it. Ideally we want to get to a stage where everybody is treated equally, and allowing ethnic minorities to use racial slurs is causing more problems than it solves, because it's giving ethnic minorities something that whites aren't allowed, as it were. I object to whites being given something that ethnic minorities aren't allowed as well, to be perfectly clear. My point is that having two sets of rules for different sets of people is doing nothing to help us reach that ultimate state where everybody is equal.
Call me extremely stereotypically white, but yeah, it should. Like many of the whites on here I'm not particularly offended by it, but I am offended by the fact that ethnic minorities are allowed to be racist against both whites and other ethnic minorities. I'm offended that that is not considered racism. There was apparently some philosopher on such matters in the 70s or something that said that racism = prejudice + power, and in that sense white people are the only people who are able to be racist (at least in English-speaking countries). I call bullshit on that one, and I am pretty sure that anybody of an ethnic minority that is not a total prick probably refrains from using the word "cracker" when not talking about Jatz or Saos.
Racism is a difficult issue, because there is a lot of it still around, even if people don't necessarily consciously realise it. Ideally we want to get to a stage where everybody is treated equally, and allowing ethnic minorities to use racial slurs is causing more problems than it solves, because it's giving ethnic minorities something that whites aren't allowed, as it were. I object to whites being given something that ethnic minorities aren't allowed as well, to be perfectly clear. My point is that having two sets of rules for different sets of people is doing nothing to help us reach that ultimate state where everybody is equal.
To be honest, it being returned to meaning a savoury biscuit would save me a TON of insults on XBL...
Didn't know it was in fact a slur until after about a year or so of being confused as hell.
Didn't know it was in fact a slur until after about a year or so of being confused as hell.
Meh, I personally don't let it bother me either way. If all someone can think of is to make fun of a stereotypical strawman based on the colour of your skin then they're someone to laugh at, not get offended by.
I could out-do them in so many, much more personal ways. It's so much more offensive to that person if you actually put in the effort to tailor your insults to that particular person instead of some generic factor.
Captha: "yptin problems"
Damnit, I'm having problems with my yptin again, I've got to go see the doctor now.
I could out-do them in so many, much more personal ways. It's so much more offensive to that person if you actually put in the effort to tailor your insults to that particular person instead of some generic factor.
Captha: "yptin problems"
Damnit, I'm having problems with my yptin again, I've got to go see the doctor now.
It technically is a racial slur since it is meant to offend someone of a specific race. But no one takes it heartily. I've noticed no one can come up with many or any good racial slurs for the whites. All they have is cracker and honky which both make me laugh. Seems no one takes offense to being called a piece of food or a user of horns.
****** - Bundle of sticks or twigsMarter said:
what were you saying?
anyway, "Honky" is already a racial slur for white people, and there doesnt appear to be any second meaning to it. its just not as popular to racists as "cracker" is.
but seriously, if youre white like i am, you probably dont give a crap what people call you, when it comes to your skin color.
Racial slurs against white people shouldn't really be any more acceptable than slurs against other races, but having said that, I doubt it'd bother me much. If someone was inclined to say it to me in an offensive manner, then odds are they aren't the kind of person that I give a shit what they think. Of course, if they did manage to actually insult me, I could always just casually deck them. I think that'd hurt a lot more.
I wouldn't be offended if someone called me 'pop tart' or 'rivita' so I'm actually fine with cracker, I'll be offended when there is a racial slur against us pale bellies that isn't hilarious, I personally don't think honkie is offensive either purely because of the ridiculousness of the word.
I know it's meant to be sarcasm, but sadly that's how things are treated a large amount of the time, at least in America.Abandon4093 said:
This. Is. Exactly. What is wrong with most people's way of thinking. "It's okay, because he's black." or "Well, his people got it from us first" is absolutely no excuse for racism, no matter what. This is 2011, and as a people, we still can't discern what is racism and what isn't? (and by "a people" I mean human kind). Yes, all that crap that African American peoples had to deal with as a result of white oppression was bad, and there is no denying that. However, we are living in a world of so-called equal opportunity, aren't we? That means equal rights. That also means equal responsibility, and that I do not see.Maphysto said:
If a white person comes on here bitching about those (insert any n-bomb equivalent here) it would be considered racist, and rightly so. the poster would probably be banned. good riddance. But if a black person started bitching about those honkeys and cracka's? Oh, well, he's just venting because some white guy who has nothing to do to me (not even familial ties, my family is from poor European countries) treated his grandfather badly. This, too me, is wrong. Yeah... I want rights, too.