Six-Year-Old JRPG Beats Assassin's Creed Unity in Steam Charts

[Rozalia1]

... ... ... This is on purpose, only explanation.

"You yourself have admitted you don't follow JRPGs, I do mate...but lets see the recent games (this year), and I'm even being charitable and removing the games that either only released in Japan, or have yet to come out".

Don't misquote me again, it's not funny or clever. Very simple to understand.

ok how i was wrong about trails, as far as i know YOU are the only one who was wrong about that

"traisl in the sky has no console release (only a handheld one) and the sequel to trails in the sky is making its debut on the west on both PC and the PSP next year, yes i feel its important to mention those games, i never said they were PC exclusives, only that they didnt get a console release"

For all your talk of me being this or that, what is this exactly? You can't "call me out" while retaining that, but you already know that.

how convenient then that PC happens to have no holder huh? how conveninent that the rule has no reason to exist because it means nothing to the customer

Bloody hell, well sorry for different brands of PCs not having exclusives.

ok, play mind zero on the PS3 alone, ill wait

That was a Vita game to start, not a PS3/4 title. Nice try.

yeah you practically asking me to thank you for accepting you are wrong, how says you are acting condescending

ok explain to me what is the purpose of your stupid platform holder rule? and hell whats stopping me from making a rule that emulation counts for PC, and any game that can be emulated is for all intents and purposes a JRPG avaliable on PC, hell that makes MUCH more sense that your platform holder rule

No that is wrong.

Always with the bloody rules. Its common acceptance to see things as Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo (only talking the big three so please no smart alecy Ouya mention). If something is on the Playstations than it is a playstation exclusive, why Natural Doctrine for example has "only on playstation" on it. So no this isn't me being odd like you are trying to make out, you're the one being odd by going against something practically everyone else goes with.

And people accuse me of moving things towards emulation. No, I will not waste my time talking emulation here. You have been a part of such talk before along with everybody else, the law is what it is. Legal emulation requires a copy of the game, and the device it originally played on's BIOS from your own owned machine meaning you might as well be putting easy piracy down.
Now there are exceptions and what not, which have all been discussed before with people here or there so its a waste of time to bother to "call me out", trust me when I say I've heard it before.

There must be over 20 pages on emulation across the forum at the least regarding that single subject from discussions that have involved me. No one could defeat the law even when they sneakily tried to use EU law instead so please save it, I've destroyed enough varied arguments for illegal Emulation for two lifetimes. Cost, availability, art, the man, rights, age, DRM, dead company, Et cetera... all have failed. Not being rude do not misunderstand but I don't want that emulation talk to crop up (and trust me you want it a lot less).

Anyway... none of those games would have come out in 2014 and they wouldn't have official releases on PC so they wouldn't count regardless. Yeah Piracy makes so much more sense, come on get out of here with that.
I mean unless you're a pirate I don't see how you can even think that is a good thing to push.

ok trails then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Heroes:_Trails_in_the_Sky

you are still wrong

Microsoft Windows
JP June 24, 2004
CN January 20, 2006[1]
KR March 17, 2006[2]

PlayStation Portable
JP October 28, 2006
NA March 29, 2011
EU November 4, 2011

PlayStation 3
JP December 13, 2012

Digital distribution
WW July 29, 2014

and why should anybody care if a game is exclusive to the holder?

let me give you an example, say you wanted to convince someone the PS4 is an amazing platform for JRPGs based on YOUR list

they buy the console but are surprised the find out the vast mayority of the games on your list cannot be played on the PS4, "exclusive to the platform holder" means jackshit for that person, because its not a correct way to meansure the amount of JRPGs that person can play in his platform of choice

Except I wouldn't, the only thing the PS4 can be pushed in is in the future it will be the place for JRPGs. Not so much today with a grand total of a single released JRPG (Natural Doctrine... I like the fact I own the first PS4 JRPG, nice bit of trivia).
The PS3 and the Vita of course are much better platforms currently for JRPGs as you know, they've had time. Being Multiplatform I own all three in addition to all my other holdings, my condolences if you don't/can't.

if thats not the case, why did PC get more JRPGs than ever before?

i mean you have to yet to refute that if you want to argue PC isnt getting more JRPGs, you have to refute the fact PC got many JRPGs this year

How many times. There was no Atelier. There was no Ar nosurge. There was no Disgaea.
It was a bunch of old ports, and a single new game if as I always have to keep saying as otherwise you'll run with it I let you have. PC cannot be a platform for JRPGs if the majority of the trickle it gets is of old titles.

except they are, they simply belong to the same platform holder, but they are NOT exclusives

and considering many of the JRPGs PC is getting were once exclusives, well i think that says a lot about the future right? i mean why would japanese devs keep their niche games restricted to a single platform? after seeing falcom's and SEGA's success on Steam, id say more than one of them is already considering porting some of their backlog to the platform

Exclusive to playstation. The amount of times you've asked the same questions and I've given you the same answers is reaching madness mantra levels. Perhaps you've never seen a console game box I don't know, but this is not hard to understand.

Because they aren't idiots (and the costs, learning, and time isn't worth the risk). You think Ar nosurge has anywhere near the hype VC has surrounding it? You think they'd not be dead on arrival on PC? VC like FF7 on steam before it means nothing for the future.

 

[NiPah]

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Also once again. You have actually caused my opinion of the game to decay. I used to think that it was a just meh game, but the more and more I argue with you about it, the more you refuse to accept my reasons for not liking the game, has just gotten me in a really bad mood and made me hate the game even more. I seriously hope your goal wasn't to get me to like the game or change my views on it, because you made the opposite happen.

What you've done here is step into a thread about how well an older game sold, which is mostly going to be populated with people who are fans of the game (cause the Unity fans sure as hell ain't here) then you give a bunch of reasons why you didn't like it.

Little piece of advice, most people don't want to hear why you don't like a game they liked, in a sense you're giving them reasons to dislike a game they like, you're going to get shit for days.

I really don't see your aim here, do you think people actually care that you didn't like the game? I know you're trying your hardest to get people to like the game less but why?

Next time a topic comes around about how well a game sold don't feel the need to walk in saying you didn't like it for such and such reasons, you'll get shit on and nothing but anger will come of it... It's best to just say "Oh I didn't care too much for this game, but it's good that it sold so much"... Or maybe not even post, that's a good choice too.

 

[Erttheking]

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Also once again. You have actually caused my opinion of the game to decay. I used to think that it was a just meh game, but the more and more I argue with you about it, the more you refuse to accept my reasons for not liking the game, has just gotten me in a really bad mood and made me hate the game even more. I seriously hope your goal wasn't to get me to like the game or change my views on it, because you made the opposite happen.

What you've done here is step into a thread about how well an older game sold, which is mostly going to be populated with people who are fans of the game (cause the Unity fans sure as hell ain't here) then you give a bunch of reasons why you didn't like it.

Little piece of advice, most people don't want to hear why you don't like a game they liked, in a sense you're giving them reasons to dislike a game they like, you're going to get shit for days.

I really don't see your aim here, do you think people actually care that you didn't like the game? I know you're trying your hardest to get people to like the game less but why?

Next time a topic comes around about how well a game sold don't feel the need to walk in saying you didn't like it for such and such reasons, you'll get shit on and nothing but anger will come of it... It's best to just say "Oh I didn't care too much for this game, but it's good that it sold so much"... Or maybe not even post, that's a good choice too.

My original post is pretty small. Things only got worse once people replied to me and I had to explain myself.

I noticed. That's what I get for having a dissenting opinion I guess.

Get people to like the game less...HAHAHAHAHAHA-no. I was expressing my opinion. I didn't see any notice on the thread that it was an echo chamber only. What are the people who are saying they like the game trying to accomplished. Nothing. There is no hidden meaning behind people talking. in fact, what's your meaning replying to me?

I guess only people who liked a game are allowed to talk about it in a thread about how well it sold...unless it's call of duty or something else that's on the sanctioned "Shit on" list.

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

The lesson: if you treat PC gamers like shit, they won't buy your shit.

Ubisoft's inevitable take-away: PC gamers don't buy our shit, so that's why we treat them like shit.

 

[cojo965]

...gamers rewarded quality over hype?

Did I wake up in the Twilight Zone this morning? Or were the shots of AC:U's missing faces [https://33.media.tumblr.com/58e2ba84fabc2f2966556ab3a58e6b19/tumblr_nexfpzwoKT1tj3i33o2_1280.jpg] just that off-putting?

Jesus Christ that is horrifying.

 

[MXRom]

Well yeah of course it outsold AC, because AC was a barely playable bug-fest. And for a AAA title, being barely playable should be inexcusable.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

... ... ... This is on purpose, only explanation.

"You yourself have admitted you don't follow JRPGs, I do mate...but lets see the recent games (this year), and I'm even being charitable and removing the games that either only released in Japan, or have yet to come out".

Don't misquote me again, it's not funny or clever. Very simple to understand.

i didnt misquite you, thats exactly what you said

how is it me not following JRPG has anything to do with you changing the rules, i mean you clearly follow JRPGs but so far have made countless errors counting games, picking games not released on 2014, ignoring many PC games, etc

ok how i was wrong about trails, as far as i know YOU are the only one who was wrong about that

"traisl in the sky has no console release (only a handheld one) and the sequel to trails in the sky is making its debut on the west on both PC and the PSP next year, yes i feel its important to mention those games, i never said they were PC exclusives, only that they didnt get a console release"

For all your talk of me being this or that, what is this exactly? You can't "call me out" while retaining that, but you already know that.

what was the mistake exactly? you can only find tits on the west on either the PSP or PC, thats a fact

how convenient then that PC happens to have no holder huh? how conveninent that the rule has no reason to exist because it means nothing to the customer

Bloody hell, well sorry for different brands of PCs not having exclusives.

i have never heard of intel exclusives or stuff like that

ok, play mind zero on the PS3 alone, ill wait

That was a Vita game to start, not a PS3/4 title. Nice try.

oh so platform holder exclusive means jackshit to the customer?

yeah you practically asking me to thank you for accepting you are wrong, how says you are acting condescending

ok explain to me what is the purpose of your stupid platform holder rule? and hell whats stopping me from making a rule that emulation counts for PC, and any game that can be emulated is for all intents and purposes a JRPG avaliable on PC, hell that makes MUCH more sense that your platform holder rule

No that is wrong.

Always with the bloody rules. Its common acceptance to see things as Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo (only talking the big three so please no smart alecy Ouya mention). If something is on the Playstations than it is a playstation exclusive, why Natural Doctrine for example has "only on playstation" on it. So no this isn't me being odd like you are trying to make out, you're the one being odd by going against something practically everyone else goes with.

so your reasoning is, "because it is that way"

then you must accept your list is almost completely useless and that this discussion is pointless as long as you keep holding onto it, because it gives you no accurate numbers of how many games you can play in your platform of choice

And people accuse me of moving things towards emulation. No, I will not waste my time talking emulation here. You have been a part of such talk before along with everybody else, the law is what it is. Legal emulation requires a copy of the game, and the device it originally played on's BIOS from your own owned machine meaning you might as well be putting easy piracy down.
Now there are exceptions and what not, which have all been discussed before with people here or there so its a waste of time to bother to "call me out", trust me when I say I've heard it before.

then again, this means you can technically play more JRPGs on PC thank on any current platform, you can buy the disk and its all good

if you are going to include arbitrary rules i should be able to do the same

There must be over 20 pages on emulation across the forum at the least regarding that single subject from discussions that have involved me. No one could defeat the law even when they sneakily tried to use EU law instead so please save it, I've destroyed enough varied arguments for illegal Emulation for two lifetimes. Cost, availability, art, the man, rights, age, DRM, dead company, Et cetera... all have failed. Not being rude do not misunderstand but I don't want that emulation talk to crop up (and trust me you want it a lot less).

Anyway... none of those games would have come out in 2014 and they wouldn't have official releases on PC so they wouldn't count regardless. Yeah Piracy makes so much more sense, come on get out of here with that.
I mean unless you're a pirate I don't see how you can even think that is a good thing to push.

i havent see you destroy anything in any of those threads, you always get shot down

ok trails then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Heroes:_Trails_in_the_Sky

you are still wrong

Microsoft Windows
JP June 24, 2004
CN January 20, 2006[1]
KR March 17, 2006[2]

PlayStation Portable
JP October 28, 2006
NA March 29, 2011
EU November 4, 2011

PlayStation 3
JP December 13, 2012

Digital distribution
WW July 29, 2014

oh so NOW we are counting japanese release

you have moved the goal post so far, it has gone in circles

and why should anybody care if a game is exclusive to the holder?

let me give you an example, say you wanted to convince someone the PS4 is an amazing platform for JRPGs based on YOUR list

they buy the console but are surprised the find out the vast mayority of the games on your list cannot be played on the PS4, "exclusive to the platform holder" means jackshit for that person, because its not a correct way to meansure the amount of JRPGs that person can play in his platform of choice

Except I wouldn't, the only thing the PS4 can be pushed in is in the future it will be the place for JRPGs. Not so much today with a grand total of a single released JRPG (Natural Doctrine... I like the fact I own the first PS4 JRPG, nice bit of trivia).
The PS3 and the Vita of course are much better platforms currently for JRPGs as you know, they've had time. Being Multiplatform I own all three in addition to all my other holdings, my condolences if you don't/can't.

so you admit your list is worthless and the platform holder rule has no real reason to exist, other than to inflate your numbers and "everybody does it" (to which i reply, ive rarely seen people doing this)

if thats not the case, why did PC get more JRPGs than ever before?

i mean you have to yet to refute that if you want to argue PC isnt getting more JRPGs, you have to refute the fact PC got many JRPGs this year

How many times. There was no Atelier. There was no Ar nosurge. There was no Disgaea.
It was a bunch of old ports, and a single new game if as I always have to keep saying as otherwise you'll run with it I let you have. PC cannot be a platform for JRPGs if the majority of the trickle it gets is of old titles.

oh well if Atelier, Ar nosurge and Disgaea are the only JRPGs to ever exist you shouldve said so, we couldve saved us this discussion

so old JRPGs are no longer game huh?

look pal nobody is saying PC is the best platform for JRPGs, only that is a very viable one nowadays, if your counter argument to PC getting a lot of JRPGs this year is "they arent NEW JRPGs" then you have no counter argument, you are just complaining they are not the JRPGs that you wanted

except they are, they simply belong to the same platform holder, but they are NOT exclusives

and considering many of the JRPGs PC is getting were once exclusives, well i think that says a lot about the future right? i mean why would japanese devs keep their niche games restricted to a single platform? after seeing falcom's and SEGA's success on Steam, id say more than one of them is already considering porting some of their backlog to the platform

Exclusive to playstation. The amount of times you've asked the same questions and I've given you the same answers is reaching madness mantra levels. Perhaps you've never seen a console game box I don't know, but this is not hard to understand.

oh yes, that term that serves absolutely no purpose to the customer and serves to no purpose but to inflate your numbers, please go on

may i ask you, why are you agaisnt counting games by platform instead of platform holder? i mean if your argument hold water it should certainly show, PC should have a pitiful amount of JRPGs as a platform compared to the PS4, PS3, VITA, etc what are you afraid of?

Because they aren't idiots (and the costs, learning, and time isn't worth the risk). You think Ar nosurge has anywhere near the hype VC has surrounding it? You think they'd not be dead on arrival on PC? VC like FF7 on steam before it means nothing for the future.

did it have more or less hype that mindzero? because that one is getting a port

also it seems being an idiot is working for Falcom as each of their PC releases get more and more successful, their Ys port enjoyed a good level of success, but just comparing the steamcharts numbers to those of tits, tits had like 5 times more players at is peak than any of the Ys games

also doesnt this mean we should be expecting ports of the most popular JRPGs in the future? games like Persona (made by ATULS which is owned by SEGA), Disgaea (being a SRPG series as well NIS are probably considering a port looking at VC's success), Tales and Atelier

i mean sounds reasonable doesnt it?

 

[hermes]

Come on, people, are we really going to get into a discussion about whether a game with rocket propelled lances, soldiers using knights-like armors, giant armored weapons of mass destruction and a race of magical people with the potential to become walking atomic bombs is more inspired in WW 1 or 2? It clearly takes element from a number of conflicts, mash them up together and pass them through an anime filter... to try to equate it 1 on 1 with any conflict or time period is as pointless as trying to equate Mass Effect's Turians to a single influence.

Instead, we should be celebrating that SEGA (for once) decided to take their heads out of the sand and port a critically acclaimed game in a niche genre to an unexplored market, and it paid off. I am not even going to argue whether VC is a flawless game or not, just that I am glad it paid off. In an ideal world, that would mean SEGA decides to support the (PC) western market with more of their backlog of games that never made it to the west, like Yakuza, Vanquish, 7th Dragon or Phantasy Star Online 2.

 

[Rozalia1]

This is going to be the last post I address all your points, next ones will be shorter.
Not because I don't have the stomach for it (I do if any of you have seen me post), but because your arguments were degraded to begin with and have only further degraded to the point I'm suspecting its some plot to get me a warning (they are that bad, I mean just look at the intel thing).

So I apologize now for any offense you may take NuclearKangaroo, and anyone else reading.

i didnt misquite you, thats exactly what you said

how is it me not following JRPG has anything to do with you changing the rules, i mean you clearly follow JRPGs but so far have made countless errors counting games, picking games not released on 2014, ignoring many PC games, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgaea_4:_A_Promise_Unforgotten

I forgot the vita version is Revisited and that was what released in 2014, that was my only "not in 2014" mistake. Errors were Dragon Quest being JP exclusive, and Trails 2006 release date which you mislead me into believing. I've already told you why I missed some titles.

oh so platform holder exclusive means jackshit to the customer?

Bloody hell, it doesn't bloody matter. Sony own the PS3, PS4, and Vita so that means any game even if on all three of those devices are exclusive to Sony and they can stick "only on Playstation" on it (which is correct).

i havent see you destroy anything in any of those threads, you always get shot down

Please, you featured in one of those threads, misquoted me a couple of times (What a surprise), and never took that issue on again (ran). The law is absolute (actually I just like saying that but anyway), nobody has been able to defeat me on that because quite simply the law is on my "side", and no matter how many times they say the law is stupid...it will remain the law.

So anyway...I say this in the nicest way possible, but your words on getting "shot down" mean nothing. Perhaps you forget but I saw your efforts on emulation, and to give credit to everyone else...their arguments were much much stronger than yours.

i have never heard of intel exclusives or stuff like that

... ... ... This is a bloody trap isn't it? You want to get me a warning don't you? Bloody hell how, how is that the response?
Is that sarcasm? If so, why would sarcasm serve as a response there to what I said. If its completely straight than that'll be an even weirder response.

I can not work out how that was a response.

oh so NOW we are counting japanese release

you have moved the goal post so far, it has gone in circles

... Never a home console release... posts home console release ... circles yadda yadda. Come on now. That world wide release means you can download trails to your PS3 you know.

so you admit your list is worthless and the platform holder rule has no real reason to exist, other than to inflate your numbers and "everybody does it" (to which i reply, ive rarely seen people doing this)

Playstation exclusive, repeat that.

oh well if Atelier, Ar nosurge and Disgaea are the only JRPGs to ever exist you shouldve said so, we couldve saved us this discussion

so old JRPGs are no longer game huh?

look pal nobody is saying PC is the best platform for JRPGs, only that is a very viable one nowadays, if your counter argument to PC getting a lot of JRPGs this year is "they arent NEW JRPGs" then you have no counter argument, you are just complaining they are not the JRPGs that you wanted

I'll explain the basic concept when giving examples. I posted three because three is a good fine number to make a point, not too few but at the same time not too much.

Its not viable if the new games are not coming. If you follow JRPGs you are going to want this year the new JRPG releases not bloody ports of FF3 and 4. Why is that so difficult to understand?
But no, you'll now repeat Hero 2 to my face like that proves anything and than try to get me to answer a question I have already answered...

oh yes, that term that serves absolutely no purpose to the customer and serves to no purpose but to inflate your numbers, please go on

may i ask you, why are you agaisnt counting games by platform instead of platform holder? i mean if your argument hold water it should certainly show, PC should have a pitiful amount of JRPGs as a platform compared to the PS4, PS3, VITA, etc what are you afraid of?

Why would I be afraid of something you've already done? Do you not realise when you're going round in circles? You already did that and I responded to it, so why would you post that?
Please try to keep previous posts in mind before attempting to "catch me out" somehow.

did it have more or less hype that mindzero? because that one is getting a port

also it seems being an idiot is working for Falcom as each of their PC releases get more and more successful, their Ys port enjoyed a good level of success, but just comparing the steamcharts numbers to those of tits, tits had like 5 times more players at is peak than any of the Ys games

also doesnt this mean we should be expecting ports of the most popular JRPGs in the future? games like Persona (made by ATULS which is owned by SEGA), Disgaea (being a SRPG series as well NIS are probably considering a port looking at VC's success), Tales and Atelier

i mean sounds reasonable doesnt it?

Here we go, the few exception means the world is changing.

Persona perhaps due to Sega now (but not a certainty as just look at Yakuza), but the rest? Whatever you say darling, you can believe what you like.

 

[Arcane Azmadi]

Why is this surprising? AC: Unity is just the latest regular installment of a series that has been milked like a new mother who just gave birth to octuplets but still insists on breastfeeding, while Valkyria Chronicles was lauded as one of the best games on the PS3, period, and had years to accumulate cult acclaim and build anticipation amongst all the PC gamers who didn't buy a PS3 in the last console generation (like myself). Add to the fact that Valkyria Chronicles actually lives up to its cult hype, while the massively overhyped AC: Unity is a buggy piece of unfinished garbage and the fact that the better game is outselling the worse one should surprise nobody.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

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as long as you keep bundling together releases from multiple platforms just so your dumb lists can get more JRPGs, this will never be a serious discussion, you dont admit your rule exists only to benefit you, fine

oh and btw

"All three parts were initially released on Microsoft Windows in Japan only. The first part was released in 2004 before being ported to the PlayStation Portable (PSP) in the beginning of 2006 and its PlayStation 3 port was released in 2012. Xseed Games released First Chapter in English for the PSP, followed by a Windows version in 2014. Second Chapter was announced to be released in English as a download for both PlayStation Portable and Windows at the end of 2014."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Heroes:_Trails_in_the_Sky

the PS3 version was never localized, again wrong

also when exceptions keep and keep piling up they are no longer exceptions

lets see next year shall me? if we get more japanese releases than this year, you must admit you were wrong, if that doesnt happen ill admit i was wrong

 

[Rozalia1]

as long as you keep bundling together releases from multiple platforms just so your dumb lists can get more JRPGs, this will never be a serious discussion, you dont admit your rule exists only to benefit you, fine

oh and btw

"All three parts were initially released on Microsoft Windows in Japan only. The first part was released in 2004 before being ported to the PlayStation Portable (PSP) in the beginning of 2006 and its PlayStation 3 port was released in 2012. Xseed Games released First Chapter in English for the PSP, followed by a Windows version in 2014. Second Chapter was announced to be released in English as a download for both PlayStation Portable and Windows at the end of 2014."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Heroes:_Trails_in_the_Sky

the PS3 version was never localized, again wrong

also when exceptions keep and keep piling up they are no longer exceptions

lets see next year shall me? if we get more japanese releases than this year, you must admit you were wrong, if that doesnt happen ill admit i was wrong

You have done that yourself already and I acknowledged it, what is your problem? No this was never a serious discussion to begin with considering the bizzaro world logic you've been using. Its like if after say the PS4 getting a single PC RTS I came in here and started telling everyone that this means all the RTSs are going to start coming to console now, absolute bunkum.

Never a home console release is what you said, you were wrong. As for what I said...well I'm technically still correct.

Except your exceptions don't make it off one hand, big deal.

What I told you a couple posts back. No doubt in 2015 you've going to be saying that after FF15's PC release this'll mean they're all going to come now.

 

[Ocelano]

This presents an obvious course of action vis a vis the sequels. Make it happen, Sega.

7)Hey Ubi! You want to know why people are buying this game? Because they can run it at 60 fps and 1080p!

Yes, I regularly buy games just to turn the graphics options up. Money well spent.

As to why it's actually selling well, it became something of a cult favourite since release. Not many people bought it at first, but those that did spent the last six years going on about what an unappreciated gem it is. Then it gets a steam release and a lot of people who listened to the chatter were inclined to say "hey, I remember hearing about that Valkyria Chronicles thing but I never had a PS3/wasn't interested when it came out originally, maybe I'll check it out".

I think pretty much the same thing happened when Sony put out the HD versions of Ico and Shadow of The Colossus.

I know I'm extremely in the minority here but...not a fan of Valkyria Chronicles. A friend and I play it on her system and it is way too cutesy.

That's a definite flaw with the game. I got used to it pretty quickly (possibly because it's a very "anime" style of storytelling and I watch a lot of that) but I wouldn't disagree with anyone who hated the writing.

Sony put out HD ICO and SotC years back for the PS3 would be surprised, pleasantly surprised mark you, if they did it again

--EDIT -- Ooops my bad misread the tense on the phrase thought you were talking future instead of past apologies

 

[Waddles]

Yes! Probably wouldn't have known this got a port if not for seeing this in the sidebar. I used to go to my mate's place just to play this on his PS3. Buying asap!

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

as long as you keep bundling together releases from multiple platforms just so your dumb lists can get more JRPGs, this will never be a serious discussion, you dont admit your rule exists only to benefit you, fine

oh and btw

"All three parts were initially released on Microsoft Windows in Japan only. The first part was released in 2004 before being ported to the PlayStation Portable (PSP) in the beginning of 2006 and its PlayStation 3 port was released in 2012. Xseed Games released First Chapter in English for the PSP, followed by a Windows version in 2014. Second Chapter was announced to be released in English as a download for both PlayStation Portable and Windows at the end of 2014."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Heroes:_Trails_in_the_Sky

the PS3 version was never localized, again wrong

also when exceptions keep and keep piling up they are no longer exceptions

lets see next year shall me? if we get more japanese releases than this year, you must admit you were wrong, if that doesnt happen ill admit i was wrong

You have done that yourself already and I acknowledged it, what is your problem? No this was never a serious discussion to begin with considering the bizzaro world logic you've been using. Its like if after say the PS4 getting a single PC RTS I came in here and started telling everyone that this means all the RTSs are going to start coming to console now, absolute bunkum.

Never a home console release is what you said, you were wrong. As for what I said...well I'm technically still correct.

Except your exceptions don't make it off one hand, big deal.

What I told you a couple posts back. No doubt in 2015 you've going to be saying that after FF15's PC release this'll mean they're all going to come now.

if consoles had like 7 RTS releases on a single year, youd had a point

 

[Eliam_Dar]

Well, it is a turn based strategy game, which is a favorite genre among many PC gamers, with an interesting setting, great art and story. I am not surprised it is doing so well. I already have it for PS3 but I am tempted to get the PC version and play it again.

 

[Rozalia1]

if consoles had like 7 RTS releases on a single year, youd had a point

Except only 1 of those is "new" so try again... though something is worth noting regarding RTSs...they are essentially possible on consoles and have been for some time. At least on the Playstation (and Wii U if they make good use of the pad I suppose), no idea on Xbox however. The reason why I say that is the exception of exceptions Unreal Tournament 3 which on the PS3 allowed keyboard and mouse usage in gameplay, and had mods (K+M isn't a complete oddity as games as far back as Age of empires 2 on PS2 had support, but the mod thing is very much so). I remember hearing somewhere I think related to Final Fantasy XIV that Sony said the devs simply had to support keyboard and mouse for it to be able to be used... so on that bombshell why aren't all the RTS, MMO, and so forth makers all not putting their games on consoles? Answer that one for me, its very comparable.

Anyway back to "tactics" we go, you used the term "consoles" so you've only made it easier. Take a gander at Tactical Turn-Based Combat games.

http://www.giantbomb.com/tactical-turn-based-combat/3015-234/games/

Tell me what the above means for the future. Surely with the success of those types of games they would have been fools not to put it on PC too? I mean look at Koei with Romance of the Three Kingdoms (really damn good game by the way) always bringing their big (they are a pretty big name among the other companies that do those types of games) Tactical Turn-Based Combat game to PC. Surely that should have lead to something by now...yet it hasn't. We're talking 12 of those games from Koei going back twenty bloody years.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

if consoles had like 7 RTS releases on a single year, youd had a point

Except only 1 of those is "new" so try again... though something is worth noting regarding RTSs...they are essentially possible on consoles and have been for some time. At least on the Playstation (and Wii U if they make good use of the pad I suppose), no idea on Xbox however. The reason why I say that is the exception of exceptions Unreal Tournament 3 which on the PS3 allowed keyboard and mouse usage in gameplay, and had mods (K+M isn't a complete oddity as games as far back as Age of empires 2 on PS2 had support, but the mod thing is very much so). I remember hearing somewhere I think related to Final Fantasy XIV that Sony said the devs simply had to support keyboard and mouse for it to be able to be used... so on that bombshell why aren't all the RTS, MMO, and so forth makers all not putting their games on consoles? Answer that one for me, its very comparable.

Anyway back to "tactics" we go, you used the term "consoles" so you've only made it easier. Take a gander at Tactical Turn-Based Combat games.

http://www.giantbomb.com/tactical-turn-based-combat/3015-234/games/

Tell me what the above means for the future. Surely with the success of those types of games they would have been fools not to put it on PC too? I mean look at Koei with Romance of the Three Kingdoms (really damn good game by the way) always bringing their big (they are a pretty big name among the other companies that do those types of games) Tactical Turn-Based Combat game to PC. Surely that should have lead to something by now...yet it hasn't. We're talking 12 of those games from Koei going back twenty bloody years.

hell if they could port some of the big name stuff to consoles, like CoH or starcraft, that would certainly turn some heads, that isnt happening, see why your comparison doesnt apply?

the first 6 games on that list are on PC... were you trying to prove something?

hey i told you, lets wait until next year, if PC keeps getting JRPGs, you will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, if thats not the case I will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, thats sounds like a reasonable compromise right?

 

[Rozalia1]

hell if they could port some of the big name stuff to consoles, like CoH or starcraft, that would certainly turn some heads, that isnt happening, see why your comparison doesnt apply?

the first 6 games on that list are on PC... were you trying to prove something?

hey i told you, lets wait until next year, if PC keeps getting JRPGs, you will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, if thats not the case I will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, thats sounds like a reasonable compromise right?

... ... ... What the hell? That is your answer? Yeah we're done here if that is how you respond to such a question.
Its actually a very interesting question that one I find, it'd be great if someone else could have an attempt.

14 pages...and only the first is seemingly relevant to you?

Things aren't going to be so binary though are they? I just know you'll try to weasel out of it by pointing at something... but if you don't than I expect your commendation of my brilliant foresight.

 

[NuclearKangaroo]

hell if they could port some of the big name stuff to consoles, like CoH or starcraft, that would certainly turn some heads, that isnt happening, see why your comparison doesnt apply?

the first 6 games on that list are on PC... were you trying to prove something?

hey i told you, lets wait until next year, if PC keeps getting JRPGs, you will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, if thats not the case I will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, thats sounds like a reasonable compromise right?

... ... ... What the hell? That is your answer? Yeah we're done here if that is how you respond to such a question.
Its actually a very interesting question that one I find, it'd be great if someone else could have an attempt.

14 pages...and only the first is seemingly relevant to you?

Things aren't going to be so binary though are they? I just know you'll try to weasel out of it by pointing at something... but if you don't than I expect your commendation of my brilliant foresight.

what question? so far youve been only complaining about PC not getting the JRPGs YOU want, you have provided no reasonable argument agaisnt the number of JRPGs released on the platform or its quality

im just saying, put your money where your mouth is, accept my challenge, if PC keeps getting more JRPGs you will shut up about PC not being a viable platform for JRPGs, and if the opposite happens, i will shut up about PC being a viable platform for JRPGs

if you dont accept, i guess it just shows not even you believe what you are saying


this year the following JRPGs were released on PC this year on the west:

FF3
FF4
FF13
FF13-2
HMH2
LOH: TITS
VC
DS2

8 titles total, if next year the same amount or more JRPGs are released, then im proven right, if PC cant keep this pace, im proven wrong, are those simple rules fine for you?