Six-Year-Old Upset By Lack of Female Friendly Avengers Toys
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Oh, would you just look at that. Isn't that just the gosh-darned cutest thing whenever an adult teaches their children to regurgitate a political agenda on command, and then posts a video of it on the internet?
In the words of Piccolo from DBZ Kai Abridged: "Nobody watched Dragon Ball."Kamille Bidan said:Let's be honest. Pretty much every DBZ character that wasn't Goku or Gohan (and even Goku, technically. See the head-injury incident) is someone who was bad and then turned good.RJ 17 said:To be fair, I do get where you're coming from, but my comparison was really on a general level. Vegeta was a bad guy that turns good, just like Hawkeye. Granted, Hawkeye was a good guy before he became a bad guy that became a good guy again, still, that's what my comparison was based on.
Beyond that, Hawkeye was far more useful than Tien and/or Yamacha could ever hope to be.
Wait, Black Widow was in the Avengers?
I was too busy focusing on Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, The Hulk and Nick Fury to notice.
I was too busy focusing on Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, The Hulk and Nick Fury to notice.
Ah, yes. I still HATE pink, because as a little girl I was told that I like it.Charli said:
When I told people that I like blue, I was told 'No you don't'.
Because the kindergarten teachers knew apparently better what I liked than I did.
Luckily my mom let me have blue clothes.
I always got Barbies and toys like that as birthday -presents, even after I told people I didn't want them.
I specifically asked for 'monster-toys' when I was 7, and I got this super-cute dinosaur-thing from my friend.
And this comment from her father :"My daughter told me you wanted monster-toys, but I didn't believe her. She insisted, and eventually we found this dinosaur that suitable for a girl."
At that moment I realized gender-roles were shit.
What's wrong with female toys? Why can't boys play with female characters?Hosker said:
The issue is not that a girl can't play with a male superhero-toy, it's that female superheroes are underrepresented.
As a little girl I played with both male and female toys, but my most badass characters (A tyrannosaurus and a dragon that were only women because I decided so)were female, because I guess I identified with them the most.
Also since there were less cool female characters, I suppose I had to make up for it by creating my own.
Also I decided Leonardo from Teenage mutant ninja turtles was a girl.
I actually agree in part with the kid, for one reason: see my avatar? It's of Quorra, from Tron Legacy, as portrayed by Olivia Wilde. Now during the release of Tron Legacy, they made a bunch of figures of the characters, her included. Unfortunately, there is only one figure in the entire line that portrays her, and it commits a rather grievous crime: it does not portray her face. The figure is only available with a helmeted head, and because of that people have had to kit-bash figures to give her a proper face, with various degrees of success.
Why doe that piss me off? Well, anyone that has seen Tron Legacy knows that Quorra is considered one of the lead characters. The other leads got Helmeted and helmetless sculpts, while she is the only lead character produced without a proper face sculpt, even though she spends the majority of the film helmetless. Why? probably because marketing.
Why doe that piss me off? Well, anyone that has seen Tron Legacy knows that Quorra is considered one of the lead characters. The other leads got Helmeted and helmetless sculpts, while she is the only lead character produced without a proper face sculpt, even though she spends the majority of the film helmetless. Why? probably because marketing.
To be fair: Maybe they didn't get the actress' approval for the face sculpt, or they didn't want to deal with the approval process. Christian Bale's "John Connor" figure is covered up with goggles and a face mask.an annoyed writer said:
Still bull though.
Action figures are the toys that let kids play with their favorite characters, and it sucks that girls (and some of the characters they like) get shafted.
There is a Black Widow toys, but its in short supply.
Batman and Bane get dozens of cheaper figures, but Catwoman is limited to the adult collections, pricing her out of what parents would pay for a little kid.
Female Yellow/Blue Rangers are hard to find, and Pink is even rarer.
And yes, I'm still sore Sari Sumdac never got a figure.
Aww, that's sad, the parents don't let their kids browse amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Select-Exclusive-Action-Figure/dp/B005OZOF52
That's the first action figure I found with a very basic google search.
Now, what wouldn't be fair would be to force stores with limited shelf space to carry a product that is less popular than any of the other products that could fit in that space. Capitalism, yo.
Regarding the pink ranger comment, amazon to the rescue! http://www.amazon.com/Power-Ranger-Samurai-Action-Figure/dp/B004H0MBPQ
This whole thread could have stopped at: "Six-year-old upset"
http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Select-Exclusive-Action-Figure/dp/B005OZOF52
That's the first action figure I found with a very basic google search.
Now, what wouldn't be fair would be to force stores with limited shelf space to carry a product that is less popular than any of the other products that could fit in that space. Capitalism, yo.
Regarding the pink ranger comment, amazon to the rescue! http://www.amazon.com/Power-Ranger-Samurai-Action-Figure/dp/B004H0MBPQ
This whole thread could have stopped at: "Six-year-old upset"
Aside from the toy issues, as characters one of the main things I like about Hawkeye and Black Window is their ability to reasonably hold their own despite more or less being regular people. They just have to compensate for the lack of powers with a lot of skill and teamwork.
Thank for proving my point twice over. Did you look at the prices? Its bad enough that women are in short supply on the shelves, but you have to deal with the secondary market and their mark-ups!Lightknight said:
Capta: comfort zone
Maybe if marketers got out of their comfort zone, we wouldn't have to deal with that.
You know we all saw it coming, but u don't think anybody expected it to be a 6 year old who said it. I was expecting that Anita what's her name to be the one addressing it. Which is could because now I might actually care. I demand more black widow toys !
I hate that whole "I fixed that for you" bit, but...I fixed that for you.CriticKitten said:
Yes there is a Black Widow figure in the Avengers movie line, but you have to jump through some crazy hoops to get it. And yes, $20 for a normally $9.99 action figure IS a crazy hoop for a six year old.
That's if you know that's available. It would be hard to miss, because she doesn't get the same exposure as Tony, Cap, and Thor.
And that's where you analogy falls apart. Shooty-shooty bang-bang games are heavily advertised and take up huge chunk of shelf space no matter where you ok. You'd find out about 'em, no matter how new to the hobby you are.
I guess this is all moot. This isn't about us, so it doesn't matter. Not like "Why are there so few copies of Fire Emblem" or "Why didn't more people buy Psychonauts or Okami". And she's a six year old girl, so she doesn't matter on two counts.
Dude, she's the cheapest one.BarelyAudible said:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dtoys-and-games&field-keywords=%22marvel+select+exclusive%22+action+figure&rh=n%3A165793011%2Ck%3A%22marvel+select+exclusive%22+action+figure
She's also only $14 new from third party markets and $21 from Amazon (with prime membership). All the other ones are over $30 even new from third party vendors and much higher with a prime membership from Amazon. You're not making a case here. You're showing how little the demand is and how easy to obtain (aka, less expensive) the female characters are.
Captain America is the best example on that list as he's from the same line as black widow. $35 (40% more expensive than black widow) new from third party vendors, $41.2 (50% more expensive than Black widow) from Amazon with a prime membership.
Guess I'm getting frustrated because this reminds me of the "You got Samus and Lara! Isn't that good enough!" blarg.
Regardless of whether this is coerced or not the stat's bare out what Riley is saying and the truth is that the message - women are not as highly valued - begins right from the very early age that these hero's are coveted. The parents are teaching her well and i think awareness cannot begin too young, what scares the wimps who do not agree is their supremacy is limited. Go Riley - I think you are the hope for the future, your parents are doing a great job you are already smarter than most the idiots who have responded and feel threatened!
Oh, I can certainly understand a girl's frustration over there not being enough good female superheros. That is entirely a valid complaint. I'll say that the demand isn't currently there, but the demand also isn't there because of a lack of good female characters. Same as in video games. A vicious self eating snake.BarelyAudible said:
Please understand, my correcting the little girl was merely regarding a specific point. Not dismissing other, greater issues.
