Skyrim Weight Inaccuracies
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The Elder Scrolls series has always done this. I think it's for game balancing purposes. Weapons typically sell for more than armor, so it would be extremely easy to simply stockpile swords and sell them for massive profit (though to be fair it's still pretty easy to amass wealth if you're like me and make multiple "loot runs" until a dungeon is picked clean).
I think the bigger question is how septims don't weigh anything, no matter how many you're carrying. If they truly are gold coins, then they should start weighing the player down something awful after a while. Again though, gameplay trumps realism.
I think the bigger question is how septims don't weigh anything, no matter how many you're carrying. If they truly are gold coins, then they should start weighing the player down something awful after a while. Again though, gameplay trumps realism.
It's a game about magic and goddamned dragons, and your complaining about realism, Where did Bethesda state that they would try to be 100% accurate with every statistic, and plus it's a completely different world, maybe they make swords heavier and leather lighter, you don't know.
*Holds shield up and absorbs the full brunt of a dragon's fire breath while my horse owns it's face*
"HEY! Wait a minute, why is my sword not accurately weighted?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, LET US POST IT ON A FORUM!"
As I'm sure the last few pages have said, different planet, a wizard did it, and MST3K Mantra.
"HEY! Wait a minute, why is my sword not accurately weighted?! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, LET US POST IT ON A FORUM!"
As I'm sure the last few pages have said, different planet, a wizard did it, and MST3K Mantra.
Yeah this annoys the absolute fuck out of me, seems that noone ever realizes that you can usually swing a two handed sword faster than a one handed sword once you get it going.craftomega said:
Holy Shit... Using this completely fictional setting Bethesda is trying to alter not only the annuls of history but the very laws of physics!! How blind I was to this Orwellian nightmare which Bethesda is trying to call a "game"!
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Well...pretty much this. I was going to say more on that subject, but I don't really have to. Also, who said that a "weight point" is actually a pound? In my experience, no where does it actually say that weight points are pounds, or that X item weight X pounds, which happens to coincide with it's weight point value. Also, yes. It's likely that they take both encumbrance and weight into consideration when deciding it's weight point value. Which is probably why Steel swords are heavier than Iron swords. Why? Well, hey, guess what? Unless I am not remembering properly (Also referencing Oblivion, not Skyrim), Steel longswords are wider and longer and thicker(cue dick jokes) than Iron longswords. Something weighing less doesn't mean anything when it's 2-3 times the mass, any damn way. Unless it's hollow. Which would be either the stupidest thing ever, or pure genius. I'm not sure which...Trevor Thomas said:
Don't discourage him. I love when people do this kind of stuff. It is a learning experience and shows that there are hardcore fans of something.Phlakes said:
Dammit! They ruin everything they touch! Why? Whyyyyy?itsausernamewhatofit said:Don't listen to him, he's just trying to cover his tracks. This is clearly and attempt by Bethesda to brainwash the general public. They start with simple weights of historical items and then move bigger and bigger. Obviously Bethesda is trying to alter history in the minds of the general public. This leads me to believe that Bethesda are non other than...
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I'd agree with the OP. While the weight of items in the game is really not important...there's no real reason to lie about it either.
I don't get the balance argument as you can always offset the weight of an item with the value it's sold at in stores. Not that you should ever assume anything in a video game reflects reality...but I'm sure there are gamers out there who believe a sword is that heavy because the Elder Scrolls is about the only video game or media source to tell you that.
I'd like to see realistic weight values used in future games while still having an unrealistically high carrying capacity. I only agree with things like arrows weighing zero because it's clearly a game mechanic change and no one would mix that up with reality.
I don't get the balance argument as you can always offset the weight of an item with the value it's sold at in stores. Not that you should ever assume anything in a video game reflects reality...but I'm sure there are gamers out there who believe a sword is that heavy because the Elder Scrolls is about the only video game or media source to tell you that.
I'd like to see realistic weight values used in future games while still having an unrealistically high carrying capacity. I only agree with things like arrows weighing zero because it's clearly a game mechanic change and no one would mix that up with reality.
I worked all night, working my ass off, and come to The Escapist to relax, and I get online, and see you bitching about weapon weight?!
Are you just fucking impossible to please? Jesus christ, if I gave you a diamond ring would you complain about the weight of that?
I wouldnt be upset if you werent making this statement in the most entitled way possible.
What part of FANTASY do you not understand? Are you upset about how heavy Dragon Bones are?
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Are you just fucking impossible to please? Jesus christ, if I gave you a diamond ring would you complain about the weight of that?
I wouldnt be upset if you werent making this statement in the most entitled way possible.
What part of FANTASY do you not understand? Are you upset about how heavy Dragon Bones are?
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But think about it for a second, if you are looting corpses on an actual battlefield, would you go stripping knights of their Full Plate or would you just grab their Swords and other weapons, assuming you're going for the best weight/cost ratio? I'm pretty sure you'd just grab the swords and maybe a few pieces of armor if you had room.Compatriot Block said:
Balance is a silly argument here. There's always going to be more loot than you can carry and you need to make a selection anyway. It would have been a nice touch if the weights were more in line with actual RL item weights.
Weight is proportional to it's trade value, a Sword of Magic is going to fetch more than a full set of plate armor therefore you can carry less of them around you, this is so that it increases the time sink of vendoring trash.
First of all we assume that at the beginning of the game you aren't that strong (eg. how much could a sickly mage carry) so you can carry 100lbs maximum, which using Skyrim's standard unit of measure is 300u therefore a sword that weighs 9u actually weighs 3lbs and now everybody's happy. You simply forgot to convert from the standard Skyrim unit of measuring weight to pounds.
Not sure if anyone mentioned it before (too lazy to go through 5 pages), but if you want somewhat realistic weight of items along with carry weight limit, play STALKER. Moving with 60kg (abou 130lb) acros the map is a heroic effort in itself in that game.
Its intresting to see that fan boys are countering my argument with "Because its not set in our world the same laws dont apply". But sadly they are missing my point. Would it be safe to say that humans from skyrim have the same or similar physical capabilities? If you say yes to this question then my point is valad. The human arm cannot deal with extreme weights at the ends (in your hands) for long periods of time, especialy while swinging them around. you would literly tear your muscles apart. so how would you be able to swing a sword that weights more then your armor? And no it does not really matter how strong you are, since everyone in skyrim can use the largest weapon without consequece. Yet in reality almost anyone can use most medevil swords due to there balance and weighting (most people will probaly cut them selves).
The irony is that I am also a huge fan boy of the TES series. I will defend this game agianst anyone who bashes it without good cause. The only point I am trying to make is that the weighting system does not make any logical sence, and sadly it is based off of the emcumbrance system which did make some sence. Sadly Skyrim over all has become consolized and many areas of gameplay and grafics have suffered for it.
The irony is that I am also a huge fan boy of the TES series. I will defend this game agianst anyone who bashes it without good cause. The only point I am trying to make is that the weighting system does not make any logical sence, and sadly it is based off of the emcumbrance system which did make some sence. Sadly Skyrim over all has become consolized and many areas of gameplay and grafics have suffered for it.
Bethesda didn't want to piss of PETA, so they made their virtual leather armour out of the data-equivalent of faux leather, so no pretend cows were harmed during the hypothetical forging. It also provides much less protection than you'd think, so anyone who thinks they're wearing real leather armour will die repeatedly for their sins.